Guild Wars 2

Disable Ascended gear for WvW!

Ascended Gear, as well as the announced item progression, cuts of casual gamers and working/Studying people from competitive WvW.

Unless you don’t/can’t >waste< your time to grind this gear each month, you’re cut of the endgame content.
The kind of endgame content which was announced to be grind-free, standing above all other MMOs.
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If Ascended Gear stays PvE-only most people won’t have a problem with that.
Maybe even accept it as a motivation.

But: As soon as it becomes a must have for WvW, it splitts the playerbase and drives people away.

As a regular of both PvE and WvW I must say Ascended is bad in both. Don’t ask to ban it from one, ban it universally.

Do you have full exotic gear, fully upgraded with exotic upgrades? If not, you’re like 99% of the players. If you do, you have “an unfair advantage over the other players, which splits the playerbase and drives people (especially the casuals you seem to love so much) away.”

The (max 2) rings and 1 back item that’re gonna be implemented this patch do VERY little to give players advantage. Also, you can get them as well.

We’re talking about marginaly better stats than exotics. We’re talking about gear without upgrade slot.

All I wanna say is… Don’t overreact. Take a deep breath. Now go back to enjoying content instead of choking on marginally higher stats.

Paradox.5498:

Do you have full exotic gear, fully upgraded with exotic upgrades? If not, you’re like 99% of the players. If you do, you have “an unfair advantage over the other players, which splits the playerbase and drives people (especially the casuals you seem to love so much) away.”

The (max 2) rings and 1 back item that’re gonna be implemented this patch do VERY little to give players advantage. Also, you can get them as well.

We’re talking about marginaly better stats than exotics. We’re talking about gear without upgrade slot.

All I wanna say is… Don’t overreact. Take a deep breath. Now go back to enjoying content instead of choking on marginally higher stats.

It is right now. BUT the article clearly states

As we release more new end game content in the future, you’ll see more Infusions and Ascended item types being added to the game. Eventually, you’ll be able to kit yourself out with a full set of Ascended gear and high end Infusions to help give you the edge in end game content.

So it’s not just a ring and a back item. It’s going to be a whole new tier of weapons and armor. The real worry is, is that is the just the start of a slippery slope of gear checking and treadmills

runeblade.7514:

Paradox.5498:

Do you have full exotic gear, fully upgraded with exotic upgrades? If not, you’re like 99% of the players. If you do, you have “an unfair advantage over the other players, which splits the playerbase and drives people (especially the casuals you seem to love so much) away.”

The (max 2) rings and 1 back item that’re gonna be implemented this patch do VERY little to give players advantage. Also, you can get them as well.

We’re talking about marginaly better stats than exotics. We’re talking about gear without upgrade slot.

All I wanna say is… Don’t overreact. Take a deep breath. Now go back to enjoying content instead of choking on marginally higher stats.

It is right now. BUT the article clearly states

As we release more new end game content in the future, you’ll see more Infusions and Ascended item types being added to the game. Eventually, you’ll be able to kit yourself out with a full set of Ascended gear and high end Infusions to help give you the edge in end game content.

So it’s not just a ring and a back item. It’s going to be a whole new tier of weapons and armor. The real worry is, is that is the just the start of a slippery slope of gear checking and treadmills

What does that change to the fact that everybody can get this gear? Or to the fact that most ppl dont get everything out of their gear at the moment anyway? Or that WvWvW, for that matter, isn’t about gear or skill at all but about running with the zerg, hoping your computer renders your enemies before theirs render you, AoE-spamming while keeping distance. Even full ascended armour isn’t gonna change that.

Paradox.5498:

runeblade.7514:

Paradox.5498:

Do you have full exotic gear, fully upgraded with exotic upgrades? If not, you’re like 99% of the players. If you do, you have “an unfair advantage over the other players, which splits the playerbase and drives people (especially the casuals you seem to love so much) away.”

The (max 2) rings and 1 back item that’re gonna be implemented this patch do VERY little to give players advantage. Also, you can get them as well.

We’re talking about marginaly better stats than exotics. We’re talking about gear without upgrade slot.

All I wanna say is… Don’t overreact. Take a deep breath. Now go back to enjoying content instead of choking on marginally higher stats.

It is right now. BUT the article clearly states

As we release more new end game content in the future, you’ll see more Infusions and Ascended item types being added to the game. Eventually, you’ll be able to kit yourself out with a full set of Ascended gear and high end Infusions to help give you the edge in end game content.

So it’s not just a ring and a back item. It’s going to be a whole new tier of weapons and armor. The real worry is, is that is the just the start of a slippery slope of gear checking and treadmills

What does that change to the fact that everybody can get this gear? Or to the fact that most ppl dont get everything out of their gear at the moment anyway? Or that WvWvW, for that matter, isn’t about gear or skill at all but about running with the zerg, hoping your computer renders your enemies before theirs render you, AoE-spamming while keeping distance. Even full ascended armour isn’t gonna change that.

On first glance yes the stats do seem only marginally higher. Ignoring the fact that min-maxers will demand people take it. However, If you do the math, on the item showed the stats actually give a not insignificant 7.9% increase. If you do any PvE, or WvW to a hardcore level, that number matters.. A lot.

• Compared to its Exotic counterpart, new Ascended-rarity “Explorer” ring has: +5 Power • +5 Precision • +3% Magic Find • +infusion slot.

While the percentages in themselves may be small, the actual increase in the stats behind them are significant, especially magic find which imho is already questionable as a game mechanic

Ask a PvP or hardcore PvE player if they care about even a 1% difference. The fact there is one at all will shape player behavior

WvWvW on hardcore level is about 1% difference in stats? Stats like magic find? Seriously? Now I understand why WvWvW in GW2 sucks. It’s because of the min/maxers one-shotting everybody else with their magic find advantage. Oh no… it isn’t.

Sdric.8526:

Disable Ascended gear for WvW!

Ascended Gear, as well as the announced item progression, cuts of casual gamers and working/Studying people from competitive WvW.

Unless you don’t/can’t >waste< your time to grind this gear each month, you’re cut of the endgame content.
The kind of endgame content which was announced to be grind-free, standing above all other MMOs.
—————————————————————————————-

If Ascended Gear stays PvE-only most people won’t have a problem with that.
Maybe even accept it as a motivation.

But: As soon as it becomes a must have for WvW, it splitts the playerbase and drives people away.

Let me ask why?

So, people have farmed up to now and then what?

Who is saying it is a must for WvW?

Why can a level 1 player join WvW? Shouldn’t it be a must to be level 80 to join?

I think this kind of mentaility and pushing on Anet is just getting childish and silly.

You chose to focus on magic find and 1% when I clearly stated that it is a 7.9% increase. The explorer ring was used because it was the only one that has details released to the public.

You need reading comprehension skills before you argue about things you don’t know.

@Raksha

Currently there is a cap.
Once you hit it you’re forever free for WvW.
You can take a break for a month or two and still know you can always come back.

Well, that’s at least what was promised.

With the new Ascended gear people are forced into constant grinding to stay competitive.
Each month, over and over again.
Some people simply don#t have the time for that.
Maybe not being forced to grind was one of the promises which made many people choose GW2 over other MMOs.

runeblade.7514:

You chose to focus on magic find and 1% when I clearly stated that it is a 7.9% increase. The explorer ring was used because it was the only one that has details released to the public.

You need reading comprehension skills before you argue about things you don’t know.

Nothing wrong with my reading comprehension. You however choose to not react to my statements that +5 power and +5 precision are wasted on anyone (the majority of ppl) without the best upgrades in every exotic slot. Or that anyone can get this gear equally easily. There’s no unfair advantage.

runeblade.7514:

You chose to focus on magic find and 1% when I clearly stated that it is a 7.9% increase. The explorer ring was used because it was the only one that has details released to the public.

You need reading comprehension skills before you argue about things you don’t know.

I beg to differ, the stat upgrade while visable is quite low in terms of the outcome of the determination of a fight.

A skilled player in full exotic, will still beat a fully equipped ascended.

Sdric.8526:

@Raksha

Currently there is a cap.
Once you hit it you’re forever free for WvW.
You can take a break for a month or two and still know you can always come back.

Well, that’s at least what was promised.

With the new Ascended gear people are forced into constant grinding to stay competitive.
Each month, over and over again.
Some people simply don#t have the time for that.
Maybe not being forced to grind was one of the promises which made many people choose GW2 over other MMOs.

So how did people get the time to get where they are now?

Raksha.8049:

Sdric.8526:

@Raksha

Currently there is a cap.
Once you hit it you’re forever free for WvW.
You can take a break for a month or two and still know you can always come back.

Well, that’s at least what was promised.

With the new Ascended gear people are forced into constant grinding to stay competitive.
Each month, over and over again.
Some people simply don#t have the time for that.
Maybe not being forced to grind was one of the promises which made many people choose GW2 over other MMOs.

So how did people get the time to get where they are now?

Maybe they sacrificed a lot of their holidays to get there.
Sadly you can only have them once or twice a year and maybe can’t afford it to grind each month.

Sdric.8526:

Raksha.8049:

Sdric.8526:

@Raksha

Currently there is a cap.
Once you hit it you’re forever free for WvW.
You can take a break for a month or two and still know you can always come back.

Well, that’s at least what was promised.

With the new Ascended gear people are forced into constant grinding to stay competitive.
Each month, over and over again.
Some people simply don#t have the time for that.
Maybe not being forced to grind was one of the promises which made many people choose GW2 over other MMOs.

So how did people get the time to get where they are now?

Maybe they sacrificed a lot of their holidays to get there.
Sadly you can only have them once or twice a year and maybe can’t afford it to grind each month.

What about the casual players who have achieved this and have work, kids, social lives, responsibilities, mortages?

Where does it say that these content updates will be released every month?

Raksha.8049:

runeblade.7514:

You chose to focus on magic find and 1% when I clearly stated that it is a 7.9% increase. The explorer ring was used because it was the only one that has details released to the public.

You need reading comprehension skills before you argue about things you don’t know.

I beg to differ, the stat upgrade while visable is quite low in terms of the outcome of the determination of a fight.

A skilled player in full exotic, will still beat a fully equipped ascended.

A equally skilled player in exotic will lose against an equally skilled player in ascended because of the advantage.

Just drop this thing from the update!
i DON’T want another game with gear checks!
That’s what it is nothing more nothing less!