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Posted by: Mystic.5934

Mystic.5934

list 10 things on the Trading Post, then get “Error attempting to sell”, and you can’t list anything else for 1 minute. presumably, this is to prevent bots from listing thousands of things in a short time.
I have to question the effectiveness of this combat.
especially since the last update to this: where it doesn’t go away after that minute is up if you keep trying to sell.

Think about it:
You decide you don’t need any of their chef ingredients and decide to sell all of them. you have like 50 things to sell.
If you’re a human, you would sell, sell, sell, sell, sell, sell, sell, sell, sell, sell, hit limit, swear, exit gw2, watch an episode of big bang theory, come back, sell, sell, sell, sell, sell, sell, sell, sell, sell, sell, hit limit, swear, etc. maybe 480 listings per day.
If you’re a bot, you would be programed to sell, sell, sell, sell, sell, sell, sell, sell, sell, sell, wait 60 seconds, sell, sell, sell, sell, sell, sell, sell, sell, sell, sell, wait 60 seconds, sell, sell, etc. while your owner is watching a movie. so that gives you 14,400 listings per day.

This does not combat botting. It’s similar to a button on a website that says “click here to confirm you’re human.” = stupid easy for a bot programmer to account for, effectively only hindering humans.
really, this is a pro-botting, anti-player device.
If I had to guess why this is there, I would bet something along the lines of someone who didn’t put much thought into it thought it would be a good idea. much like the idea to require the entire chinese alphabet in your password.

a better solution? limit everyone to posting 500 things every day, and maybe also 1 thing every second. this would limit bots to 500 things a day and no human would ever notice (we’re already indirectly limited to this anyways).
And for science’s sake, have the message say that they reached their max listing potential for that time period!

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Posted by: Jemmi.6058

Jemmi.6058

I agree get rid of this. It is very annoying, and I hold on to mats that I will never use simply because of it.

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Posted by: Control Core.1079

Control Core.1079

You shouldn’t watch the big bang theory. Though I agree 100% with you about the removal of this. Unless there is some hidden negative side to it.

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Posted by: danbuter.2314

danbuter.2314

The Trading Post needs a drastic overhaul. If nothing else, fix this issue and also remove all of the permanent bids for items that are less than I can actually sell an item for. There are tons of permanent one copper bids clogging up the system for no reason.

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Posted by: CreativeAnarchy.6324

CreativeAnarchy.6324

The Trading Post needs a drastic overhaul. If nothing else, fix this issue and also remove all of the permanent bids for items that are less than I can actually sell an item for. There are tons of permanent one copper bids clogging up the system for no reason.

I second this.

I speak for my self and no one else. Only fools believe they speak for a majority.

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Posted by: Lorelei.3918

Lorelei.3918

PLEASE, Its the single most annoying thing about this game.

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Posted by: Churchwood.4627

Churchwood.4627

I found this thread after running a Google search, as I ran into this very problem after leveling my cooking from 1-400 on my Ranger and having a crapton of food that needed selling. I agree, all this does is hurt the player, especially since we have -no- freaking clue -why- it is happening. Besides, I found that exiting and re-opening the TP window allows you to sell one more thing (which can be repeated ad nauseum), so it’s a huge hassle for actual human players, but nothing more than an extra line of code for a botter and his program.

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Posted by: Dryalkiel.1385

Dryalkiel.1385

All in favor say “aye”.

AYE

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Posted by: Dryalkiel.1385

Dryalkiel.1385

Also, if it’s a server request issue, why not build a queue?

The items and quantities are sent to a queue which sells the items in a time effective manner suitable to the server.

That way the player can sell his entire inventory if he wishes to and all he has to do is wait for the money.

I’d much rather wait a few seconds for my money than get an annoying error everytime I click the Sell button

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Posted by: Skeletore.8312

Skeletore.8312

I understand this is an old thread, but even though the last reply was a month ago, it’s still a glaring issue with the game. It is the only thing that I dislike about Guild Wars 2. My inventory fills up quickly, and I want to sell it all or put it up for bid in the TP and then go out and farm some more. Unfortunately I spend almost as much time or more in the TP as I do actually collecting things to fill my bags. It’s pretty ridiculous. Something needs to change or a work around needs to be implemented. Hell I’d even fill out a captcha or something to verify i’m human before being able to sell on the TP if I wasn’t going to get an error every few items.

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Posted by: Xaxxus.6719

Xaxxus.6719

I dont care if this thread is 5 months old I am bumping it. This happens to me after selling 8 – 10 items on the trading post. It takes me a good 15 min to clear the crap from my inventory because of this dumb sell limit.

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Posted by: nagr.1593

nagr.1593

simple fix:
1. sell your items till you get the error
2. close the TP, run around and spam skills/buttons for a few secs
3. repeat

Arun Kar

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Posted by: Faustas.5243

Faustas.5243

AR YOU KIDDING ME!!!! (RAGE)

Are you kitteny telling me this was an intentional part of game design and not a bug.

This have been my bane the entire time i have played this game! I only use tp to sell the stuff i have gathered adventuring once my bag fills.

Every KITTEN time i do this for the last quarter of the items i am selling i have to close window reopen trading window, sell and item, try to sell next item, close window and reopen, repeat.

This is a stupid what to combat bots and only inconveniences the player not the botters.

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Posted by: Andrax.4576

Andrax.4576

AR YOU KIDDING ME!!!! (RAGE)

Are you kitteny telling me this was an intentional part of game design and not a bug.

This have been my bane the entire time i have played this game! I only use tp to sell the stuff i have gathered adventuring once my bag fills.

Every KITTEN time i do this for the last quarter of the items i am selling i have to close window reopen trading window, sell and item, try to sell next item, close window and reopen, repeat.

This is a stupid what to combat bots and only inconveniences the player not the botters.

Nowhere does it say that its intentional part of the game, OP said " presumably" used to combat botting.
Considering how randomized the “Error attempting to sell” is, meaning sometimes i can sell a lot without it happening and sometimes it happens on the second item, i HIGHLY doupt that this has anything to do with bots.

Id just say that the TP is very buggy and constantly under too heavy load.

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Posted by: Faustas.5243

Faustas.5243

usually get the error when i am about 3 quarters into selling my full bags. Pretty consistent “error” for me.

I would hypothesize that there are 2 different instances where “Error attempting to sell” appears: 1. legitimate error in selling, 2. Anti bot script triggered by: selling a certain volume of goods within a certain time period.

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Posted by: nagr.1593

nagr.1593

I would hypothesize that there are 2 different instances where “Error attempting to sell” appears: 1. legitimate error in selling, 2. Anti bot script triggered by: selling a certain volume of goods within a certain time period.

The 1st one I’m not so sure about, but i know the 2nd one is true for sure. This is because everyone gets this error..trust me all my guildies do too. After like 6 or so items I sell, this happens. And like I posted earlier all I have to do then is close the TP and run around and spam buttons to prove i’m not a bot, and after a few mins I am able to sell again. It is still kinda an inconveince though, frustrating at times.

Arun Kar

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Posted by: Faustas.5243

Faustas.5243

^ exactly these anti bot measures (especially this one) inconvenience players more than bots.

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Posted by: Mel.8769

Mel.8769

+1 to most every post above me

Common sense is a flower that doesn’t grow in everyone’s garden. -Unknown

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Posted by: angfucious.7854

angfucious.7854

And seeing how long this thread has been up, and people are still complaining about this error (which I agree… totally ineffective for their intended anti-botting purpose), I doubt anyone over there is listening. Of course you won’t inconvenience bots in any way. The guy using them is off doing whatever he/she wants. However, for us players trying to sell stuff that other people might need more than we do, it is incredibly annoying. Surely there has to be a better and an actual effective method for cutting down on bot activity. I agree with the above… this limit on the tp sell/trade is not the answer.

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Posted by: Weindrasi.3805

Weindrasi.3805

Agreed! I HATE the sell error thing

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Posted by: Trey.5728

Trey.5728

+1 – Indeed. I feel like Sigourney Weaver’s character Gwen DeMarco in Galaxy Quest:

[Gwen and Jason encounter the chompers]
Gwen DeMarco: What is this thing? I mean, it serves no useful purpose for there to be a bunch of chompy, crushy things in the middle of a hallway. No, I mean we shouldn’t have to do this, it makes no logical sense, why is it here?
Jason Nesmith: ‘Cause it’s on the television show.
Gwen DeMarco: Well forget it! I’m not doing it! This episode was badly written!
Gwen DeMarco: Whoever wrote this episode should DIE.

Whomever wrote the code for the TP should have to spend hours trying to sell their loot manually…

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Rahkyrr/Necromancer and Perdgon/Guardian
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