Guild Wars 2

This is only a suggestion.

What would happen if we did away with the accumulated score in WvW and only showed the score based on what each team holds at the 15 minute intervals (and, of course, based realm perks solely on that score).

I know it would take a little something away from the metagame of WvW, but I think it would be for the better. I think it would solve a few problems:

1. It would keep competition going late into the week. As it stands, you risk “losing” servers becoming disheartened and just giving up. If the only score that mattered was the one at that moment, it wouldn’t be an issue.

2. It would invalidate concerns about Oceanic guilds playing on certain servers. The only score that would matter would be the score you have at any given 15 minute interval. The late night guilds would be playing to afford themselves perks as would teams at any other given time.

Basically, the competitive component would revolve around holding the most points at any given time – rather than worrying about how far ahead/behind you are when compared to other servers. The competition would still be there, but the idea of 24/7 coverage (vs peaks and valleys in participation) wouldn’t be as big a factor.

Again, its just a suggestion. I’m sure there are downsides I’m not considering.

It would be the same thing… If players see the current score is +0 every 15 mins, then they will not have a lot of motivation to join just to get steamrolled…

What they have to do is give more incentives to teams with the lowest scores. Get more badges of honor drops so you can get more siege. Give some kind of penalty when you hold too many orbs of power, etc.

Just hiding the score won’t do much. The people that get disheartened by a low score would do the same with the small scores as well.

Sounds like someone plays on Eredon Terrace.

Tradewind.6913:

Sounds like someone plays on Eredon Terrace.

I’m on Henge of Denravi and have been since the very first beta weekend (so Ive seen both sides of coin – both low pop/struggling and high pop/domination). The suggestion (which, again, was just a suggestion) was made based on the issues Ive seen others bring up across forums. My only thought is keeping WvW enticing for everyone long term.

Kal, I definitely understand your points. They do make sense. I think the bigger issue I had in mind was the deviation between daytime, U.S. prime time and Oceanic prime time scores. It is definitely causing some people to become disheartened, which is unfortunate. It’s a tough issue to address. It may work itself out, but I thought the suggestion was worth bringing up.

I understand exactly what you mean. I play on blackgate, and we have the same issue. We play well in the afternoons, but in the mornings, we control nothing, and people just don’t want to log in. I also log in, try a coupe of times, look at my repair bill, cry, and leave.

Removing repair costs could help a little, as well as bonuses to the losing team. Other than that, I’m not sure what else could be done. The repair bill is an even worse deterrent for the undermanned team…

Post was meant to be whimsical, not necessarily threatening. It just mirrors what happens with the Henge WvW scores as there is a strong Oceanic contingent on our server.

Tradewind.6913:

Post was meant to be whimsical, not necessarily threatening. It just mirrors what happens with the Henge WvW scores as there is a strong Oceanic contingent on our server.

sorry about that. I’ll edit my previous post to be less reactionary.

An alternative suggestion I’ve saw in the past that I liked was normalized scores.

Battles would be divided into 6 hours stages, where the winner of that stage would get 2 points overall, second place gets 1, and third gets 0. Essentially, it would reset WvW every 6 hours and make nightcapping a smaller issue, since the other servers could still catch up, instead of ignoring it past the second day.

Plus, to make it even better, these 6 hour stages could hold 4 parallel battles, that are matched based only on the scores from that time slot. So, famous nightcappers would be matched against other nightcappers on that timeslot, while the weak servers get to fight against other weak ones.