Dragon Coffer Skin Drop Rates extremely low?

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Posted by: DarkSider.1079

DarkSider.1079

I figured seeing this time we could buy/sell the skins, we’d have some chance of getting one. When dragon bash went active I picked up 15 of the gem store dragon coffers since they are worded in a way making it seem like you’d get something of value, or at least a much higher chance, nothing but food buff and pieces of zhaitaffy. As far as paid gems are concerned thats 0/15 and 1200 gems later only junk drops.

I’ve been slowly farming and getting the green drop ones and buying them off tp, so far have opened 600+ of the green ones. What have I found? Well when I got to about 590ish I FINALLY received a weapon ticket, that makes it a 1/600 drop rate or 0.16% drop. Granted it is somewhat random, but really? Everyone I’ve been speaking to has seen drop rates of <1% regardless if its the gem store or the green drop coffers.

I realize there has to be some level of rarity, but this high of a rarity? I thought when I saw the drop rates of dragon coffers going up “awesome, finally get some skin drops after opening 60+ southsun chests and not seeing one”. I’ve seen junk tonics (6-7), 4 green risen knight minis, and the 1 weapon ticket plus just the junk food & zhaitaffy. I understand there is a point where “business is in business to do business aka make money” but you’re telling me 1200 gems /= even a skin, and then 600 regular coffers only nets me one? What convincing should I have to spend more real money to pick up gems to buy store bought coffers if the drop rate even there is ridiculously low?

Such a low drop rate doesn’t promote this event, it actually puts a sour taste in my mouth, again RNG being backwards. Realistically, since the items are account bound & not tradeable, it should have more than a 1/100 drop rate of the green, the paid gem store ones should be 1/10.
The rest of the event has been fun, but this leaves me questioning this game as “am I supposed to be having fun, or am I supposed to be making this business more money at the expense of my fun and enjoyment of the game?”

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Posted by: lordkrall.7241

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So, you basically want a special skin that everyone would have?
For all the people who complain about the rarity of the item there are people that would complain just as much if everyone was running around with their rare skins.

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Posted by: DarkSider.1079

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No, but a more reasonable drop rate. I think everyone should have a fair opportunity at getting one (since you can’t buy it) without having to dedicate yourself to farming it out (which is against what this game is supposed to represent).

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Posted by: lordkrall.7241

lordkrall.7241

Everyone have a fair opportunity at getting one.

You don’t even need to farm in order to get a kittenload of coffers, they drops from literally everything. Simply playing the game as usual should probably net you 50 coffers or something like that per day without much issue.
They are also buyable for a few silvers each on the TP.

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Posted by: DarkSider.1079

DarkSider.1079

I realize we can purchase them, but I still feel the drop rate for skins is too low, or add in the ability to get a skin from completion of achivements (not just the shatter wings)

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Posted by: lordkrall.7241

lordkrall.7241

Which would make it completely uninteresting to a rather large amount of people, and they wouldn’t bother with spending a single gem on the coffers in the gem store.

People spend money on it because it will be a rarity. If everyone can get it by doing achievements or whatever it will no longer be a rarity, so people wouldn’t bother spending money.

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Posted by: VileFOx.3791

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Personally I can understand the logic from both sides here, I have a Fused weapon skin that pretty much cost me 75 dollars real cash to get. I wasn’t having no for an answer in regards to its acquisition, yet the price tag on my 1 skin is more than the cost of the whole game. So from where I sit, it should be easier to get them, just not by much. I don’t mind spending a few bucks, 20 or so to be satisfied with my indulgences, but to have to go as far as to spend 75 or for some push 100 dollars? That is not fun at all, especially when there were no other means to get fused weapons to my knowledge.

Yet on the other hand I still have a grin on my face when people ask where I got it, or how to get one. It’s rarity is important too and balance is key here. Just like party hats from a certain browser based game we probably all played, the value of these items could be monumental. So thinking long term, IF they keep releasing the same stuff every holiday, then every one will get their chance and the item is pretty much as common as all the rest eventually. But if this is a one time deal that will never again come to be??? well that item is priceless. Personally I believe the content for living story is temporary and the vendors available now are only for those who have yet to use their tickets. But I could be wrong, in which case My short bow is not as valuable as I thought it was and I wasted 75 bucks.

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Posted by: VileFOx.3791

VileFOx.3791

My point is, RNG sucks, but without it there is nothing special about what you get. We all face the same opposing situation and some of us fare better than others, that’s as true in life as it is in this game. So I agree with both of you and even though my example wasn’t directly related, its the same issue. ( same crap different pile)

I say it needs to be easier on your wallet, especially if this is an annual reward. Otherwise GJ GW2 ;p

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Posted by: DarkSider.1079

DarkSider.1079

Considering it’s not permanent in game, having short periods of time in which to acquire an item (versus lets say working months towards a legendary) is part of the downfall of it. I could completely accept the low drop rate IF in some way shape or form it stayed in game, but considering it drops everywhere I don’t see that happening.

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Posted by: negerleif.2106

negerleif.2106

ive opened 1000+ coffers and all i got of value was 4 minis.

(really want the jade shield)

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Posted by: Pew Pew Dont Q Q.5168

Pew Pew Dont Q Q.5168

So, you basically want a special skin that everyone would have?
For all the people who complain about the rarity of the item there are people that would complain just as much if everyone was running around with their rare skins.

I dont think you grasped the full meaning behind his article. GEMS PAID FOR FROM REAL $CASH for the gem chests should yeild HIGHER drop percentage since most people Pay real cash for gems right at the starte of a festival. Seriously anet, thats messed up and I COMPLETELY agree that the gem store bought chests need to have higher incentives and drop rate for rarer things such as skins and other festive things we try to get. Its BS its even come this far, how many festivals has it been now? I refuse to buy gems now because of this little fact. Theres no point, the gem store chests are such a rip off (SCAM)!!!! Seriously, dont buy them.

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Posted by: Pew Pew Dont Q Q.5168

Pew Pew Dont Q Q.5168

Watch anet try and correct or delete my posts cuz it snubs their business. With my luck they will ban hammer me lol. Cuz im not a nice person when I feel a business enterprize is trying to scam customers. It makes me very angry.

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Posted by: negerleif.2106

negerleif.2106

well said! i hope everyone agree with you

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Posted by: Webba.3071

Webba.3071

So, you basically want a special skin that everyone would have?
For all the people who complain about the rarity of the item there are people that would complain just as much if everyone was running around with their rare skins.

I dont think you grasped the full meaning behind his article. GEMS PAID FOR FROM REAL $CASH for the gem chests should yeild HIGHER drop percentage since most people Pay real cash for gems right at the starte of a festival. Seriously anet, thats messed up and I COMPLETELY agree that the gem store bought chests need to have higher incentives and drop rate for rarer things such as skins and other festive things we try to get. Its BS its even come this far, how many festivals has it been now? I refuse to buy gems now because of this little fact. Theres no point, the gem store chests are such a rip off (SCAM)!!!! Seriously, dont buy them.

The paid for chests do have a higher drop rate. Its just not much higher and since its still completely RNG its entirely possible to get very unlucky, and very kitten ed off, with them. Clearly it is making money for Anet though, or they wouldn’t have kept doing it after Halloween. I have not, nor would I ever, spend a cent of real money on something like that and honestly dont understand why anybody would.

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Posted by: SSalp.6423

SSalp.6423

The event is up for 30 days, I’ve been able to get 2 tickets within 3 days. If my luck is steady thats 20 tickets. And if you really want a skin, farm some money and buy the coffers.

Oh and never EVER buy the rng chests from the gemstore. Their droprate is low and it’s a waste of money

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Posted by: Sashi.9436

Sashi.9436

The bought coffers are just bigger. Opening one of those is like opening 5-10 normal coffers. so you have 5-10 times more luck so .5% or 1% chance

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Posted by: Reivaxe.1358

Reivaxe.1358

So, you basically want a special skin that everyone would have?
For all the people who complain about the rarity of the item there are people that would complain just as much if everyone was running around with their rare skins.

People are saying that they want those who PAID for something to support the game to have something from it.

And who CARES if everyone has something? It’s the FoTM Effect … just like how EVERYONE had SAB skins. Now, where are these people? Oh,right … they mostly moved on to other looks and weapons. These things are temp trends and collectibles.

I kinda love this strange mentally. Screw over your paying fan-base so that others can feel THAT MUCH better about being lucky enough to open the right coffer at the right time to get a Jade Ticket. “Because when I see others with things I LIKE and own it makes me upset because I’m not a lil snowflake anymore.”

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Posted by: lordkrall.7241

lordkrall.7241

People are saying that they want those who PAID for something to support the game to have something from it.

And who CARES if everyone has something? It’s the FoTM Effect … just like how EVERYONE had SAB skins. Now, where are these people? Oh,right … they mostly moved on to other looks and weapons. These things are temp trends and collectibles.

I kinda love this strange mentally. Screw over your paying fan-base so that others can feel THAT MUCH better about being lucky enough to open the right coffer at the right time to get a Jade Ticket. “Because when I see others with things I LIKE and own it makes me upset because I’m not a lil snowflake anymore.”

And I love the mentality that just because you pay for something you should be guaranteed to get what you want.
It is quite clearly a CHANCE to get something, nowhere does it say that you WILL get a ticket.
And just for your information I have spent quite a few gems (all bought with real money) on these Coffers, and yet you don’t see me complaining and shouting about the fact that I didn’t get a ticket from them.

The thing is: People WANT to have rare stuff. If suddenly everyone had this stuff it would no longer be rare, and that would most likely lead to less people actually buying the coffers with gems, since they would lose their main appeal.

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