Guild Wars 2

Since the drop rate is terrible now, and even before that some dyes was pretty rare (not to mention now), how about making them account bound?

Not going to happen. There is already too little worth buying in the gem store. Making the dyes account bound would be like shooting your own foot for ANet. (Although it was initially advertised that they would be account bound)

I would love to see the dyes be unlocked for the account.

A lot of people think along the same lines as Turkman does, however I would like to say that this line of thinking may not be entirely correct.

I know for a fact that I will not buy any dyes from the gem store as long as they remain character bound. If the dyes were account bound I’d certainly buy quite a few and most likely attempt to unlock all 400+ colors.

As it stands now they are losing my purchase alltogether.

If the argument against is that everyone will unlock all the dyes and never buy more, my counter would be: If that is the case then you have a gaurenteed sale every time you release a new color, which will generate gem store sales and remove gold from the economy (from using gold to buy gems).

The truth is we don’t have the numbers to go over or the sales stats to be able to determine which way generates more money. All I can say is they would absolutely generate more money from me if the dyes were per account.

I am with Xar on this. Buying dyes as it is right now is simply not worth it.

Xar.6185:

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The truth is we don’t have the numbers to go over or the sales stats to be able to determine which way generates more money. All I can say is they would absolutely generate more money from me if the dyes were per account.

Welcome to Earth, where no matter what your personal stance or feelings are, thousands upon thousands of people think exactly opposite as you.

I’ve dropped around 500 dollars on dye alone, personally.

Apathy.6430:

Xar.6185:

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The truth is we don’t have the numbers to go over or the sales stats to be able to determine which way generates more money. All I can say is they would absolutely generate more money from me the dyes were per account.

Welcome to Earth, where no matter what your personal stance or feelings are, thousands upon thousands of people think exactly opposite as you.

I’ve dropped around 500 dollars on dye alone, personally.

I think you might have missed the part I bolded. If not I submit the following.

My response to your ‘welcome to earth’ is exacly the same the same response you gave to me. No matter your stance or feelings, thousands upon thousands think the opposite. For everyone that spends $500 on character bound dyes there are an unkown number that spend 0$ and another unknown amount that spend somewhere in between.

As I said we don’t have the sales numbers to make the call. I can only say that they have lost my purhcases by going with character bound dyes.

Was all $500 on one character? If not wouldn’t it be a more enjoyable purchase to have $500 worth of dyes unlocked for more colors than to have overlapping colors with the same amount spent?

Are you going to spend $500 dollars for each character? If not there is no reason not to make them account bound for more enjoyment from your purchase. Happy customers buy more.

Have you unlocked all the dye colors? If not, holy moses, this solidifies the fact that I will never buy dye from the shop.

Is your $500 dollars an equivalent value? As in the value would be $500 worth of gems but you used some gold to gems conversion in order to make the purchases?

Just curious.

Xar.6185:

My response to your ‘welcome to earth’ is exacly the same the same response you gave to me. No matter your stance or feelings, thousands upon thousands think the opposite. For everyone that spends $500 on character bound dyes there are an unkown number that spend 0$ and another unknown amount that spend somewhere in between.

It was only tacked on for people’s reading pleasure. Anecdotal evidence is irrelevant to this discussion, regardless who it comes from.

The argument about it being “more fun” to have “more dyes” for “more characters” is all good and all.

But if “fun” was the only factor, the whole thing wouldn’t exist to begin with. The gem store is there to make money. Only ANet knows their finances, so regardless of how you personally feel or how tight your wallet is, ANet decides the fun to money ratio.

I think you’d be hard pressed to find someone who would disagree about it being “more fun” to have “more dyes” for “more characters”. Just like you’d be hard pressed to find someone against free transmutation stones and free pizza. That’s just not how businesses work.

Apathy.6430:

<snip> Only ANet knows their finances, so regardless of how you personally feel or how tight your wallet is, ANet decides the fun to money ratio.

This is the sticking point. Regardless of how anyone on the forums feels, or thinks the decision to make them character bound was a financial one and only finances will motivate them to change that decision.

It’s just kinda nice to have hope. ‘Hope’ that there are enough like minded thoughts expressed. ‘Hope’ that Anet sales data lines up with the proposed changes. ‘Hope’ that one day dyes will become account bound. However unlikely it may seem …

Personally I want Anet to make money. That way they can keep putting out content. :P I get bored with a game when I don’t have something new to do. I quit for a month.. then came back for halloween, then quit until shortly after the shores event (was busy during the event sadly :< ) But holy hell do I love the fractals.

You don’t have to buy the dyes. I don’t buy them, I just loot them. I guess I’m just not in a rush? How long has this game been out? A few months? I have 200+ dyes and I have looted all of them & to be honest I don’t even use maybe.. 190 or so of them. I had the thought in the past of “Dyes should be shared between toons” then I thought in a role-playing aspect “Why would this character have something that my other character earned?” then it didn’t matter so much anymore. If dyes were account bound, it would take several months to make just one item to create a Legendary weapon.. Why would we want to make creating Legendary weapons any more difficult? If you want to buy the dye packs from the Gem Shop, just wait til’ the conversion goes down. I feel it’s fine the way it is. The only thing I find upsetting about the Dye system at all, is that the recipes to craft a rare dye pack requires far to many materials to chance getting a common dye. Now that isn’t right.