Guild Wars 2

EB puzzle is one of the most one sided fun machines out there. It promotes anger, frustration, and trolling.

First how it does this

1. Camping. There is one way up to the chest and people camp the arena all.day.long…and all night. If you’re camping its fun and you’re having a good time. If youre being camped (its basically impossible to counter the arena camp) it is no fun at all and angering.

2. Puzzles are supposed to be fun. This feels more like a chore.

3. Classes are actually unbalanced in puzzle play. I didn’t think this was possible, but you guys pulled it off. Mesmers ability to port loads of players to the end/camp spot, to pull people off from high ledges, and all their escapes make them perfect puzzle goers. The Thiefs ability to do decent ranged damage and load of invisi make them ideal for puzzles too. My biggest problem is just mesmers however.

How to fix the EB Puzzle and make it fun again.

Step one: Disable siege in the EB puzzle area
Step two: disable all skills and weapon skills. This makes players unabel to directly fight each other
Step three: ???
Step four : Profit!

What will this do? First refer to this video on an old hlf2/tf2 game mode called deathrun. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeIM6ZzoZ6U . The way it is played is that one or two players are the puzzles trap starters. They engage the traps and try to kill the other players running the puzzle.

What does this have to do with EB? Well EB has a ton of boulders and trap starters. Does anybody ever use these? Hell to the no. They just camp with their player skills and large zergs. If the players are unable to use their skills and fight each other directly, then they have to use the traps that the devs have installed in the puzzle to take out the other players. This makes it a load of more fun because its based upon timing, dodging traps, and well just having fun. No more getting frustrated because when you get to the arena you have 9 people jump down, kill you, and a mesmer ports them back up.

I personally, along with other players, hate with a passion the EB puzzle during peak hours because we have to deal with the large amount of campers. The puzzle for me is not fun at all if there are other players that are enemies because they always camp the arena. Some servers do this amazingly well. TC, which i’ve been fighting in WvW for the past 3 weeks, always seem to have 8+ players at arena killing everything that tries to get up. Every.hour.of.every.day. It really is amazing.

The taking out of siege makes camping it even harder because you dont have 2-3 arrow carts covering the entire puzzle pathway.

If the puzzles had more traps this could actually work and would be a fun alternative.
Cool concept.

Deified.7520:

2. Puzzles are supposed to be fun. This feels more like a chore.

Chores are usually forced to be done. There is nothing requiring you to do the JP.

Frvwfr.4307:

Deified.7520:

2. Puzzles are supposed to be fun. This feels more like a chore.

Chores are usually forced to be done. There is nothing requiring you to do the JP.

Here is the thing. Thanks to the prices of WvW rewards, it do feel forced. Those things cost 200+ badges. Combine this with the poor drop rate of badges in combat, the JP is almost a required to get badges efficiently. I can go do all the puzzles and get around 28 badges in about an hour a day, or i could go play for 3 hours and get the same amount of badges if I’m lucky.

I do agree that siege shouldn’t be allowed in there. It’s cheap and takes the fun out of actually trying to run it. The landscape in the puzzle makes for some of the most fun fights I’ve ever had in WvW. I wouldn’t want to see player abilities disabled, fighting on the rafters in the dark room is just awesome. Though I’m not the type to just knock people off of stuff I’ll fight them outright before I do that.

Well honestly they should either A. do what i’ve suggested or add in another path. Because i have never found a way to get past the arena blockade unless you get a kitten ton of zergs.

Deified.7520:

Frvwfr.4307:

Deified.7520:

2. Puzzles are supposed to be fun. This feels more like a chore.

Chores are usually forced to be done. There is nothing requiring you to do the JP.

Here is the thing. Thanks to the prices of WvW rewards, it do feel forced. Those things cost 200+ badges. Combine this with the poor drop rate of badges in combat, the JP is almost a required to get badges efficiently. I can go do all the puzzles and get around 28 badges in about an hour a day, or i could go play for 3 hours and get the same amount of badges if I’m lucky.

Urm.. I get about 100 badges/day running around with my guild in WvW. Never had a problem with drop rates. Now yes, that is with my guild. But if you follow a commander around you usually have better chances.

Urm.. I get about 100 badges/day running around with my guild in WvW. Never had a problem with drop rates. Now yes, that is with my guild. But if you follow a commander around you usually have better chances.And again, with the chores are “forced” to do.. Who is FORCING you to get the WvW rewards…?

Urm.. I get about 100 badges/day running around with my guild in WvW. Never had a problem with drop rates. Now yes, that is with my guild. But if you follow a commander around you usually have better chances.And again, with the chores are “forced” to do.. Who is FORCING you to get the WvW rewards…?They are rewards for a reason, you have to do work to get them… Your argument makes no sense..