Guild Wars 2

The problem:

1. PvP ranking says how much time you have to play and how many boosters you use, not how good you are.
2. Achievement points say how much time you have to do daily’s every day, not how many rare and difficult feats you have achieved.

This is bad. But people simply ignored the PvP rank and achievement points as meaningless, and that was the end of it. Now, with the idea to implement leaderboards showing these statistics, they are brought back into the spotlight. Here are suggestions on how to make these stats have a purpose:

1. Remove daily and monthly from achievements (laurel rewards and all can stay, just no achievement points). Now, achievement points will indicate what you have ACHIEVED rather than how much you sit in front of your PC.
2. Make tournaments affect PvP rank. Or, create a new ranking system where you get points for beating people better than you and lose points for getting defeated by people worse than you. Implement it as a tournament-only rank, and show that on the leaderboards rather that the simple grind-based rank.

These are small changes, especially taking the dailies and monthlies out of the achievement points, but they help so much towards having a real competitive leaderboards system – both for 13 year olds who come home from school and spend 12 hours in front of their computer and for those with jobs and obligations who can only spend one or two hours, every other day.

You post confuses me, most people have the same idea as you when it comes to rank/ achievement points. So why do they need to change something that has no baring on the way you play the game?

So what you’re saying is that somebody who plays the game more than you shouldn’t have more achievement points than you? That doesn’t make any sense. I’ve heard this from so many people.

I personally like the daily/monthly achievements. In fact, not having them doesn’t make any sense.

What if 50 players all completely EVERY achievement in the game. They would all have the same score and the leaderboard would look ridiculous.

Are you also going to request that they take away the achievement points we got for holiday events or the Living Story, because not every player is going to have access to those points?

Also…

Erythropoietin.8496:

and for those with jobs and obligations who can only spend one or two hours, every other day.

Hi! That’s me!

I do my dailies in somewhere between 15 and 30 minutes every day. If I do the PvP ones, that takes another 15-30 minutes. Sometimes that is the only time I spend playing GW during a day (sometimes for a week straight). Even on my days off, I’m often busy doing other things and only log in for the 30-60 minutes to do my dailies.

If you’re not committed to getting achievements, then you’re not committed to getting achievements. Sorry. If I knew you 6 months ago, I would have told you how easy dailies were and suggested that you did them from the beginning.

Rakuren, do you think its fair that someone who did not buy the game at launch can NEVER catch up with you, as long as you keep doing dailies every day? Because that is what you are saying. He should have bought the game at release and grinded dailies every single day, and not taken even one day off from GW. This is ridiculous. I am not a farm-bot, as I imagine many others are not. There are times when you want a few days or even weeks off from guild wars. There are holidays when you want to go to a nice warm country and spend time at the beach, away from the internet. Does that mean you should be eternally punished with never being able to compete with the people who have time to do dailys every day?

Erythropoietin.8496:

Rakuren, do you think its fair that someone who did not buy the game at launch can NEVER catch up with you, as long as you keep doing dailies every day? Because that is what you are saying. He should have bought the game at release and grinded dailies every single day, and not taken even one day off from GW. This is ridiculous. I am not a farm-bot, as I imagine many others are not. There are times when you want a few days or even weeks off from guild wars. There are holidays when you want to go to a nice warm country and spend time at the beach, away from the internet. Does that mean you should be eternally punished with never being able to compete with the people who have time to do daily’s every day?

Here is a little note worthy advice most people only do 5 dailies now. when there is 9 to do. They only give 1 point a piece, I would say probably 95% of the people have not done 50% of the achievements. Fact of the matter is, those who have been playing longer in the start will have more achievement points then those that start tomorrow. But in the long run someone that starts tomorrow can in time achieve more points if they are dedicated enough, it wont happen over night and will probably take quite sometime but it is possible.

Do you think it is fair that you made a choice to go on vacation and still be ranked up there with someone that doesn’t?

If your time on the game is only a few hours a week then leader boards mean nothing to you, the leader boards are designed for the more avid player not casual.

Prefect example I cam into MW3 5 months late, the leader boards were packs with people that had been playing far longer than me, and through the different achievements you could unlock and the monthly rewards it seemed I stood no chance. Although about 7 months into the game I was sitting in the top 60 players. It can be done