This is NOT a suggestion regarding the excessively high cost of waypoints so please don’t make this a discussion about lowering the cost, money sinks and what not…
I don’t know if it’s intended (I really hope that it is), but traveling to Lion’s Arch is always free cause you can access the Heart of the Mists from anywhere and go through the Lion’s Arch portal. By extension, traveling to any major city is free through the Asura gates in Lion’s Arch.
So… all I’m asking is that you save me the loading screens and make traveling to any waypoint in any major city free.
What you don’t like waiting during the 5 loading screens?
Yes 5:
1 Go to Heart of the Mist
2 Go through Lion’s Arch HotM Portal
3 TP to Lion’s Arch Cities portal zone
4 Go through “The City you want” Portal
5 TP to the TP you wanted to begin with
…
Time is money after all (but I feel you pain, the loading are quite long)
^^^ SSD. My loading times are 2-5 seconds long depending on the area. This is a problem that affects people with cutting edge hardware much less than others. I can probably run the gauntlet by the time you finish loading a direct waypoint travel. They should just make it free to do instantly for the convenience of people that don’t or can’t afford to put GW2 on SSD.
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Seems perfectly logical to me. Now watch Anet make travelling to the Mists cost. Oh, wait, sorry… I’m thinking of another games company. I imagine Anet already have this one on their list, but probably not high priority. Entirely sensible, nevertheless.
I’m in favor of eliminating the necessity for going through all the ridiculous loading screens to save the cost of travel To the major cities. If you can get there for free by jumping through a few pointless hoops, why not just skip the middle man and make it free outright?
The cost to teleport out of one of the four major cities should also be based upon the closest waypoint to the destination within that city, since traveling to waypoints within a city is free, but I guess that’s probably just being nitpicky, since the difference is so small.
Actually, I thought of this just now: If they implemented the idea of making travel to cities free, then the cost to travel anywhere else should be based on the cost from the closest city, by extension of similar logic. Of course, then everything just becomes super-convoluted, so why not just make travel free like it was in the first game? : D
So obviously the real issue is being able to go to Lion’s Arch from the Mists. They should take that out…except that’s probably the best (only?) way to get unstuck if you should be unfortunate enough to get stuck in terrain somewhere and not have enough money to use a waypoint.
The cost to teleport out of one of the four major cities should also be based upon the closest waypoint to the destination within that city, since traveling to waypoints within a city is free, but I guess that’s probably just being nitpicky, since the difference is so small.
Actually, I thought of this just now: If they implemented the idea of making travel to cities free, then the cost to travel anywhere else should be based on the cost from the closest city, by extension of similar logic. Of course, then everything just becomes super-convoluted, so why not just make travel free like it was in the first game? : D
So obviously the real issue is being able to go to Lion’s Arch from the Mists. They should take that out…except that’s probably the best way to get unstuck if you should be unfortunate enough to get stuck in terrain somewhere and not have enough money to use a waypoint.
In summary, I don’t know. Whatever.
The thing is travelling to the cities is actually free. But takes “anoying” time.
Loading Screen->Mist->Loading Screen->Lion’s arch->Loading Screen->Loading screen->Waypoint the portal zone->Loading Screen->Take portal to the city->Loading Screen->The city.
Signed. I wanted to quickly show my Dad the starter zone on the weekend, but I had to do the Mists/Lion’s Arch/Portal Hub/City We Wanted/Waypoint at the Entrance loading screen extravaganza first. By the time we’d navigated all those loading screens, he’d lost interest.
Signed. I wanted to quickly show my Dad the starter zone on the weekend, but I had to do the Mists/Lion’s Arch/Portal Hub/City We Wanted/Waypoint at the Entrance loading screen extravaganza first. By the time we’d navigated all those loading screens, he’d lost interest.
Cause you couldn’t, just as a one time thing for the sake of wasting time, ported straight to your destination.
The cost to teleport out of one of the four major cities should also be based upon the closest waypoint to the destination within that city, since traveling to waypoints within a city is free, but I guess that’s probably just being nitpicky, since the difference is so small.
Actually, I thought of this just now: If they implemented the idea of making travel to cities free, then the cost to travel anywhere else should be based on the cost from the closest city, by extension of similar logic. Of course, then everything just becomes super-convoluted, so why not just make travel free like it was in the first game? : D
So obviously the real issue is being able to go to Lion’s Arch from the Mists. They should take that out…except that’s probably the best way to get unstuck if you should be unfortunate enough to get stuck in terrain somewhere and not have enough money to use a waypoint.
In summary, I don’t know. Whatever.
The thing is travelling to the cities is actually free. But takes “anoying” time.
Loading Screen->Mist->Loading Screen->Lion’s arch->Loading Screen->Loading screen->Waypoint the portal zone->Loading Screen->Take portal to the city->Loading Screen->The city.
Yes, I know. That’s the basis of this whole thread.
This makes sense. Having to pay for going to cities only affects maybe 20% of people playing the game right now since most people are aware of it. Maybe those who don’t know about it never entered PvP or just didn’t hear about it. They shouldn’t be punished for it. Plus, less loading screens!
I would honestly even be happy with the option to set one city besides Lion’s Arch as home that you could travel to for free with a cool down. I feel that right now, for convenience you tend to end up in Lion’s Arch as opposed to spending time in a different city that you might like better.
@Sojou My reasons for traveling the cost effective way aren’t relevant to this thread.
Neither is your reply.
It’s completely relevant. You are complaining about the time it took to travel from A to B, because you chose to go from A to C to D to E to B. Then you are eluding that your Dad lost interest in the game because it took so long.
Yup. Keep waypoints as is and let people travel to LA and the 5 cities for free since we can do it anyway…just takes more loading screens.
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This is NOT a suggestion regarding the excessively high cost of waypoints so please don’t make this a discussion about lowering the cost, money sinks and what not…
I don’t know if it’s intended (I really hope that it is), but traveling to Lion’s Arch is always free cause you can access the Heart of the Mists from anywhere and go through the Lion’s Arch portal. By extension, traveling to any major city is free through the Asura gates in Lion’s Arch.
So… all I’m asking is that you save me the loading screens and make traveling to any waypoint in any major city free.
This is so much common sense. I love it.
Spending time in loading screens is not fun. Going to cities free would be a great convenience that we already have, but in a clunky manner.
@Sojou My reasons for traveling the cost effective way aren’t relevant to this thread.
Neither is your reply.
It’s completely relevant. You are complaining about the time it took to travel from A to B, because you chose to go from A to C to D to E to B. Then you are eluding that your Dad lost interest in the game because it took so long.
Which is the point of this thread. It is free to do already, and it would be stupid to pay money for something that is free. And no one is psychic, so how could he/she know their dad would lose interest seeing all the loading screens (which is an accurate representation of the game) until after it happened.
Chiming in that they should have spent money after the fact is just… it comes off like a jerk to someone who was simply doing what any normal player would do.
I wrote it back in the day when there was this giant monster of a suggestion’s thread.
When I’m playing on my computer it’s not a big issue (loading times are about 5-10 sec)
but when playing on my Laptop when I’m on the go I have to wait about 5minutes in total to get to any city (other than LA).
Waypoint costs are fine (maybe inside a map they could be a little bit cheaper when alive) but that is a change I feel is needed
Yes it should be free. Although you can go to the mists, LA, then the target city, that is 3 loading screens, which is very very painful on weaker machines. Especially LA which is taking forever to load.
Yes it should be free. Although you can go to the mists, LA, then the target city, that is 3 loading screens, which is very very painful on weaker machines. Especially LA which is taking forever to load.
Actually it’s 5 loading screens if you want to go to a certain waypoint in a city other than LA.
We should have a hearthstone/town portal call it what you will, for free travel to whatever city you set it at. And waypoint costs should be reasonable (or free) and not increase with level.
Yes yes yes. Being able to travel to Lion’s Arch for free would help so much during events, and with people who are trying to meet up. It would also make it a lot easier for higher-level players to get to other zones.
We should have a hearthstone/town portal call it what you will, for free travel to whatever city you set it at. And waypoint costs should be reasonable (or free) and not increase with level.
I think you kinda missed the point. You can now travel to all cities for free after going through a bunch of loading screens.
And I intentionally want to avoid discussing other waypoint costs here, because that is a more contentious topic.
“It’s completely relevant. You are complaining about the time it took to travel from A to B, because you chose to go from A to C to D to E to B. Then you are eluding that your Dad lost interest in the game because it took so long.”
. . .
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100% for this ! Ideally, travel should be free to every city, but free travel to your hometown would already be a huge improvement. For a player like me, who loved to hop around outposts in Guild Wars, the outrageous TP costs are a real disappointment…
There currently is a suggestion to have a cost or wait in WvW or SPVP to get to LA.
The simple answer is just to make WP to cities free. At this point the only city any player or guild can call home is LA because of the way to get there through the mists.
Besides, making cities free could be a better sink in the long run since most players want to log in a safe place. This would cause players to WP back out to where ever they want to be (from the city) creating a situation where using a WP become more common place vs trying to avoid them (even if it means loggin’ in a hostile area).
100% for this ! Ideally, travel should be free to every city, but free travel to your hometown would already be a huge improvement. For a player like me, who loved to hop around outposts in Guild Wars, the outrageous TP costs are a real disappointment…
no no no… no hometown, no hearthstones. Simply free travel to all city waypoints.
Besides, making cities free could be a better sink in the long run since most players want to log in a safe place. This would cause players to WP back out to where ever they want to be (from the city) creating a situation where using a WP become more common place vs trying to avoid them (even if it means loggin’ in a hostile area).
Right now ppl avoid going using the WPs. If they were free in one directions it would increase the overall use of them (free to get to the city, cost to get out); therefore it could cost more for players in the long run.
Similar to resturants/venues saying free valet parking, but makes up the “loss” on the menu.
I agree with this. Each major city should be free to transport to. I am one of the people who has to go through 8 minutes of loading screens to make the WvW-LA-Portals-Destination move. Now, if I had 5 hours a day to play the game that wouldn’t be a big deal but many days I am trying to get the most I can out of 45 minutes and that means I don’t have a lot of time to make money and I do need to get places quickly if I want to be with my guild mates.
I imagine Anet already have this one on their list, but probably not high priority. Entirely sensible, nevertheless.