Guild Wars 2

In Guild Wars 1 players from America and Europe would struggle for the favor of the gods.

The suggestion would be that when the favor of the gods is won for America in GW1 that all American (US) servers in GW2 would gain slight bonuses in addition to the current WvW bonuses.

Likewise if in GW1 Europe attained favor of the gods, all European servers in GW2 would gain slight bonuses in addition to WvW bonuses.

As a Guild Wars 2 player I still would like to occasionally participate in Heroes Ascent in Guild Wars 1.

Unfortunately the game has such a severe lack of population that usually it is impossible to play a single match in Heroes Ascent because there is not 1 other opposing party to play against.

This would provide incentive for Guild Wars 2 players to play Heroes Ascent in Guild Wars 1 which in turn would directly benefit their respective servers.

NO, but I say they bring HoH to GW2 and give WvWvW bonuses since WvWvW gives the old HoH bonuses now.

Um, lore-wise, one problem: The Gods are silent (as in, not in Tyria). How do they bestow favour if they’re not there?

Besides, I’m pretty sure Favour of the Gods was a PvE thing (FotG would extend evertime someone would get max title track)

Honestly no.

Reason: Anet making the game get direct interference from GW1 makes no sense. They are 2 different games , tons of players does not even posses GW1.

One thing is HoM , which is fluff , another is game buffs.

GW1 and GW2 are two different games. I believe Anet has stated that besides HoM there will be nothing carrying over from Gw1 to Gw2 (besides the lore of course). Also the favor of the gods system you speak about is the OLD system. That system was removed years ago and a new one was implemented. http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Favor_of_the_Gods

If you are trying to get a hero title in gw1 best of luck to you. You are about 5 years too late on that.

Would run into a huge issue with the favor of the gods into gw2 with the following reasons.

1) God’s are currently turning their backs on the humans.
2)Charr don’t really acknowledge the human Gods so it would be sacrileges for a charr to benefit from human gods.
3) Norn believe in the animal spirits so it would be sacrileges for Norn to benefit from human gods.
4) Asura believe in Eternal Alchemy and the idea of human gods go against their beliefs so that would be sacrileges for them to benefit from human gods.

Sylvari are open minded so in the end only 2 races would benefit from human gods
Sylvari and Humans.

I don’t like the idea of GW1 influencing game play outside of cosmetic skins, GW1 will not always be officially supported and i highly doubt in a couple of years there will be much control over the gw1 player base. It will be pretty much like diablo 1.

Story line wise its been noted already, the gods have turned their backs on the world.

I look at how things can work before automatically assuming they cant and are impossible.

ArenaNet is the writer of the storyline…not you and not I so don’t speak for them. They can write the story any way they want.

If they decided they wanted write the storyline such that it would be compatible with an idea like this that is their decision and theirs alone.

Apparently I was still under the assumption that favor was still based on the status of Heroes Ascent. Honestly I am offended.

They should change it back as that degrades the “epicness” of gaining the favor of the gods.

So you pretty much want them to make a fool out of themselves by deleting a major part of the lore and re-writing the whole human storyline as well as redoing the character creation for the human race and going through the game combing and and fixing all content that refers to the gods being gone. It would be like JK rewriting the Harry potter storyline to bring back Voldemort because people want the series to continue. Could she do it? sure! would she? No, because it would be come another NFL Brett Favre scenario of “O great here we go again”. It ruins a writers credibility when you contradict your lore. It’s one of the writers 7 deadly sins that you just don’t do.

Storms Fury.9307:

Apparently I was still under the assumption that favor was still based on the status of Heroes Ascent. Honestly I am offended.

They should change it back as that degrades the “epicness” of gaining the favor of the gods.

It was removed back in August 2007. You don’t pay attention to much, do you

Storms Fury.9307:

I look at how things can work before automatically assuming they cant and are impossible.

ArenaNet is the writer of the storyline…not you and not I so don’t speak for them. They can write the story any way they want.

If they decided they wanted write the storyline such that it would be compatible with an idea like this that is their decision and theirs alone.

Apparently I was still under the assumption that favor was still based on the status of Heroes Ascent. Honestly I am offended.

They should change it back as that degrades the “epicness” of gaining the favor of the gods.

So you want them to change their gw2 lore and the favor system implemented 5 years ago to accommodate a random player suggestion that would bring no benefit and probably a lot of whining to their new game. Epic indeed.

If they just bring HoH to GW2 they could then give FotG(Gods being the Norn Spirits, Pale Tree, maybe Kormir since she is youngest human god, etc). FotG could be an extra siege weapon or another buff for WvWvW. This would keep WvWvW significant and give those of us that hate all the zerging a place to PvP like we had in GW. And HoH would be between the 3 servers that are competing in WvWvW not America vs EU vs Oceanics.

The only human God i can see working out at the current moment would be Dhuum or Menzies since those two are banished Gods who have not been officially killed off yet.
Dhuum would be the easiest since he was used to ban accounts with in GW1, and has been trying to escape back to the surface. So with the human God’s ignoring the players, allowing Dhuum to intervene would be acceptable and not contradict any lore.

for those who dont know who Dhuum is, Dhuum is the God that preceded Grenth as the God of Death but could not be killed by the other Gods so he was locked away. Towards the end of GW1 he tries to break loose of his bonds. He is frequently seen in GW1 when an account is banned. (not a spoiler since this is gw2 and you are expected to know this by now since it was in gw1)

Earning the favor of Dhuum doesn’t sound like something I should be striving for.

I would lol unlike Grenth Dhuum isn’t a wuss and loves it when people die.

One has to wonder what Dhuum’s been up to, without Grenth hanging around to keep the seal up. I mean, we know the Six withdrew from human affairs, but what about Dhuum and Menzies? They didn’t get along with their brethren.

On topic, however: Favor of the Gods would be a human-centric thing. Even though the Norn have their spirits, the other three races don’t really have gods. The Sylvari revere their pale tree, but don’t really see it as a divine being as such. The Asura believe the universe is run by a grand equation – no being behind the scenes. And the Charr had enough trouble with human gods and then the Flame Legion’s false gods that they just decided to all go atheist. How would you even BEGIN to explain Favor in terms a Charr can accept?

But even for the humans…. the gods have left the building. They have been silent since the advent of the dragons. The Temple of the Ages, perhaps the most holy site in Tyria, sank into the marsh. Humans still believe in their gods, and their priests are still faithful, but they know that they cannot expect intervention from the Six in these dragon-haunted times.

WvW bonuses ARE, effectively, GW2’s equivalent of Favor of the Gods, in terms of gameplay. (In terms of story, there is no Favor, as I made abundantly clear.) The exact nature of these bonuses differs, but the method of gaining them greatly resembles the old method of Favor-gaining in GW1.

Oh, as for the person who asked why they changed GW1’s favor mechanic? Well, it was fairer to have everyone share in favor for equal time, than to have Europe dominate everything except the wee hours of the (North American) night. But also, the game’s focus had shifted to being more PvE-oriented. Every new addition made it more obvious, most especially the releases of Nightfall and Eye of the North.

Also, since summer, the Heroes’ Ascent arena was pretty dead (the end result of a year or more of decline), to the point where Sigil Traders weren’t getting any Celestial Sigils to sell, because few people were doing the Hall of Heroes!

P.S. It was more than just America and Europe. Taiwan, Korea, and Japan also had servers. I’ve even seen them take the Hall sometimes. Rarely, but still. (China had a server later on, but I don’t think it was until after the change in the Favor mechanic.)

I sent a couple messages to anet staff asking what happened to Dhuum and Menzies but no answer yet Dhuum for supreme god!!!!

Wolfey.3407:

I sent a couple messages to anet staff asking what happened to Dhuum and Menzies but no answer yet Dhuum for supreme god!!!!

They’re out of the offices until Monday (what with it being Thanksgiving and all)

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/info/news/AMA-with-Chris-Whiteside-on-Monday-November-26/

I wonder if that war is still going on? That’s why the God’s have gone silent: to focus their attention on them breaking through?