Guild Wars 2

Thank you Arenanet for a beautiful C.E. of the game which I would like to play and have tried yet cannot as their are no default CONTROLLER settings for me to choose for my gameplay in the game’s settings.

The game to me is broken without having these settings as I cannot move very well hunched worklike over a desk, inputting data with a keyboard, or that is how I feel with my face nearly becoming one with the computer screen trying to get some sense of comfortability using a slab of plastic EIGHT times the area of one controller as a command device for this game. You can imagine the frustration escalating trying to move said slab onto my lap where I usually sit to play my many games to try to play the game, and that is not including finding space for the awful use of the mouse… and my mouse is a trackball so I pity gamers whom are coping with a usual mouse.

Something tells me third-party crapware in regards to peripheral branded products is part of the problem that is holding you back here. This issue is not a console over pc issue. It is about feeling comfortable in-game in order to want to actually come in -game and play without feeling trammelled by a device that personally, I feel belongs in the nineties. some, many folk are fine using a mouse to play this game with, I am not one of those people and when I say publically in-game that I am having trouble, I get many folk agreeing that thegame NEEDS a default controller setting for those of us whom need these settings.

That’s all, I will add that I do not expect you to find all of the lettered commands onto a pad, movement is the major issue here, but I DO expect you to provide me and many more folk whom need them, these settings which without them, is stopping us from enjoying the beauty of the game’s world.

mutatis MUTANDIS…

You will find this game extremely difficult if you try to use a controller to play as many skills require the use of you actually targeting wit the cursor to place (necro wells come to mind first). So while you may be use to using controllers to play your games, this is one game that you will most likely see no controller settings for ever.

If they did indeed allow controller settings they would have to remove the placeable wells as you are unable to reliably control well placement using said controller as you can with a mouse. I hate to say this, but maybe this game is not for your playstyle.

some, many folk are fine using a mouse to play this game with

The quantifier you’re looking for is “vast, vast, near-100% majority”. Ideally everyone could be taken care of, but you’re playing the game with the wrong input device. It’s as simple as that, and your issues probably won’t ever be looked into.

Zachariel.5463:

You will find this game extremely difficult if you try to use a controller to play as many skills require the use of you actually targeting wit the cursor to place (necro wells come to mind first). So while you may be use to using controllers to play your games, this is one game that you will most likely see no controller settings for ever.

If they did indeed allow controller settings they would have to remove the placeable wells as you are unable to reliably control well placement using said controller as you can with a mouse. I hate to say this, but maybe this game is not for your playstyle.

Actually, it could be done with the combat mode script and could be integrated into the game in that manner long before they would have to consider removing skills. to support it.

The the OP: the combination of the above script and joy2key will probably get you rolling.

Edit: I primarily link the script above to demonstrate how ANet could implement controllers without needing to change skills—which is why it’s a video link. My suggestion that the OP use it is an afterthought, and should be taken at your own risk. I do not personally believe the script in question will get you banned, but it is indeed a possibility.

Weirwynn.2390:

Zachariel.5463:

You will find this game extremely difficult if you try to use a controller to play as many skills require the use of you actually targeting wit the cursor to place (necro wells come to mind first). So while you may be use to using controllers to play your games, this is one game that you will most likely see no controller settings for ever.

If they did indeed allow controller settings they would have to remove the placeable wells as you are unable to reliably control well placement using said controller as you can with a mouse. I hate to say this, but maybe this game is not for your playstyle.

Actually, it could be done with the combat mode script and could be integrated into the game in that manner long before they would have to consider removing skills. to support it.

The the OP: the combination of the above script and joy2key will probably get you rolling.

Using any third party programs that give an edge over another player will get you banned. So i would not be encouraging that behavior. Also, using a gamepad to play could be used in an unfair advantage (specially if you are using third party programs in conjunction with the game pad to give yourself an edge). It is one reason they (while I cannot say with 100% certainty) won’t allow macros as they can cause major issues (specially in pvp as half this game is pvp).

Are you actually serious with this? I’ve yet to meet another gamer who has half your problems with the mouse/keyboard setup. Asking to be catered to in regards to playing a computer game with a controller is akin to me asking to be able to play console games with a mouse and keyboard. Trying to put a square peg in a round hole and vice versa will never get you perfect results.

Weirwynn.2390:

Zachariel.5463:

You will find this game extremely difficult if you try to use a controller to play as many skills require the use of you actually targeting wit the cursor to place (necro wells come to mind first). So while you may be use to using controllers to play your games, this is one game that you will most likely see no controller settings for ever.

If they did indeed allow controller settings they would have to remove the placeable wells as you are unable to reliably control well placement using said controller as you can with a mouse. I hate to say this, but maybe this game is not for your playstyle.

Actually, it could be done with the combat mode script and could be integrated into the game in that manner long before they would have to consider removing skills. to support it.

The the OP: the combination of the above script and joy2key will probably get you rolling.

Also just a forwarning, most games have programs built in to check to see if you are running 3rd party programs (teamspeak gives you a nice warning about their overlay due to it being seen as a third party program by some games) and if you are caught you will lose your account. While you may see this as worth it, it only takes one report (maybe you anger someone in pvp) to ruin months of time and you are now out 60 dollars (plus any other money you put into the game). So my advice…don’t do something stupid that is against the EULA like using third party programs to alter your UI or any mechanics of the game without express permission of Anet/NCsoft.

As they have said before in past game updates. They were giving suspensions for 3rd party programs/botting, but I do believe they have now started full on perm bans for the infractions from what I’ve been seeing on the forums of people crying about.

Re: The script I linked, all it does is center the mouse, hold the right mouse button, rebind some keys and overlay a crosshair as a borderless window in windows. It doesn’t touch the game at all. Since all such things have to be vetted on a case-to-case basis, I doubt there will be a problem.

Though yes, use at your own risk (I don’t find any need for it, personally.)

Edit: –and yes, the OP is a silly silly kitten. I thought that went without saying.

Edit2: Edited my original post to clarify this fact. Err—that is, the fact that the script should be used at your own risk, not that the OP is a kitten.

The script itself does mess with the UI to give an advantage over the lay player. It in all likelyhood would trigger their detection software (or should they ever take a close look at your account/game data) causing you to lose your account eventually.

Also it alters the game coding…which is very bad JUJU. Nobody like bad juju.

Zachariel.5463:

The script itself does mess with the UI to give an advantage over the lay player. It in all likelyhood would trigger their detection software (or should they ever take a close look at your account/game data) causing you to lose your account eventually.

Are you saying this because you’ve looked at it, or are you making assumptions? I use AutoHotkey for many other things, and while I know it can create borderless windows such as I described, I am not aware of it being able to do DirectX injection—and doing so would be a ridiculous complexity.

They’re more likely to detect that your keystrokes are generated by software.

Did you look at the features of what this does? It gives you more keybinds. So in affect yes it does change the game coding outside what Anet and NCsoft intended which yes will get you banned. So yes I did look at it.

Zachariel.5463:

Did you look at the features of what this does? It gives you more keybinds. So in affect yes it does change the game coding outside what Anet and NCsoft intended which yes will get you banned. So yes I did look at it.

It rearranges keybinds, which yes, I said was the most likely thing they could detect and take issue with. It does not however do so by changing anything in the game itself.

Here is a post on interaction between the maker of this mod and Gaile a CC here from Anet about this. This mod treds very closely (possibly too closely) to giving an advantage to a player that utilizes this software.

Integrating seamlessly with GW2..thats what the maker says…thats what concerns me about possible game coding manipulation.

I am currently unable to view the youtube video as I’m at work in a hospital and its blocked so I cannot view how it inteacts with guildwars but to my knowledge…addons were just that..addons to the current game files that manipulate certain thing within the game world to give a benefit in some way to the player.

Zachariel.5463:

Integrating seamlessly with GW2..thats what the maker says…thats what concerns me about possible game coding manipulation.

I am currently unable to view the youtube video as I’m at work in a hospital and its blocked so I cannot view how it inteacts with guildwars but to my knowledge…addons were just that..addons to the current game files that manipulate certain thing within the game world to give a benefit in some way to the player.

As the script is merely an autohotkey script, I can offer fair guarantee it does not modify the game code and I feel I have fairly stated the content and concerns regarding said script, so I’m not sure what more you’d like to prove.

Anyone who understands what the script does could recreate it in a completely undetectable manner using your average gaming mouse and a post-it note (many gaming peripherals are capable of storing short commands in their hardware, such that the software doesn’t even need to be installed to use them. The post-it note is for a dot-reticle at the center of the screen :P) It’s that simple.

I can’t download this to even look at it so I can’t honestly tell you. I’m just mostly going off of how I see this interatcting with the game. So to be honest my understand will most likely be flawed until i can get home and look at this more closely. And to be honest…when you say script I see it as something you have to put into the game files to actively use…which would be modifying the game files which Anet says is a no no…now if its a third party executable then no it doesn’t alter the files…ish.

So in actuality i’ve been arguing with you over your word choice ;-) granted I think the maker also calls it a script too can’t remember without goign back and looking.

Zachariel.5463:

I can’t download this to even look at it so I can’t honestly tell you. I’m just mostly going off of how I see this interatcting with the game. So to be honest my understand will most likely be flawed until i can get home and look at this more closely. And to be honest…when you say script I see it as something you have to put into the game files to actively use…which would be modifying the game files which Anet says is a no no…now if its a third party executable then no it doesn’t alter the files…ish.

Script in this case refers to a plaintext file that another program (in this case, the autohotkey.exe) reads, interprets and runs in much the same manner as many ‘scripting languages’ such as Python, Ruby, Perl, etc.

The reason you associate scripting with modifying game files is likely because many games themselves run ‘scripts’ in this manner, be they unique to the game or an established language (WOW uses Lua).

For your benefit, the script as described (not looking at the code) primarily does the following (other than the miscellaneous bookkeeping features for turning the ‘mode’ on and off, extra keybinds, etc.)

- Places the mouse in the center of the screen
– Holds down the right mouse button
– Changes the left mouse button to “Left Click” followed by the “1” key, and then “Escape”
– Probably also changes the skill keys in the same way.
– Creates a borderless always-on-top window in windows with a transparent reticle image in the center of the screen (the script only works in windowed fullscreen mode)
– Changes right mouse button to “Dodge”

Again—I originally brought it up to show how ANet could implement controllers without having to change the game. I do not personally advocate or use the script and added notes to my posts immediately when concerns were voiced. I merely wish to properly describe the script so that people can make their own informed decisions.

Weirwynn.2390:

Zachariel.5463:

I can’t download this to even look at it so I can’t honestly tell you. I’m just mostly going off of how I see this interatcting with the game. So to be honest my understand will most likely be flawed until i can get home and look at this more closely. And to be honest…when you say script I see it as something you have to put into the game files to actively use…which would be modifying the game files which Anet says is a no no…now if its a third party executable then no it doesn’t alter the files…ish.

Script in this case refers to a plaintext file that another program (in this case, the autohotkey.exe) reads, interprets and runs in much the same manner as many ‘scripting languages’ such as Python, Ruby, Perl, etc.

The reason you associate scripting with modifying game files is likely because many games themselves run ‘scripts’ in this manner, be they unique to the game or an established language (WOW uses Lua).

For your benefit, the script as described (not looking at the code) primarily does the following (other than the miscellaneous bookkeeping features for turning the ‘mode’ on and off, extra keybinds, etc.)

- Places the mouse in the center of the screen
– Holds down the right mouse button
– Changes the left mouse button to “Left Click” followed by the “1” key, and then “Escape”
– Probably also changes the skill keys in the same way.
– Creates a borderless always-on-top window in windows with a transparent reticle image in the center of the screen (the script only works in windowed fullscreen mode)
– Changes right mouse button to “Dodge”

Again—I originally brought it up to show how ANet could implement controllers without having to change the game. I do not personally advocate or use the script and added notes to my posts immediately when concerns were voiced. I merely wish to properly describe the script so that people can make their own informed decisions.

I like talking to you…

procyon.2593:

Thank you Arenanet for a beautiful C.E. of the game which I would like to play and have tried yet cannot as their are no default CONTROLLER settings for me to choose for my gameplay in the game’s settings.

The game to me is broken without having these settings as I cannot move very well hunched worklike over a desk, inputting data with a keyboard, or that is how I feel with my face nearly becoming one with the computer screen trying to get some sense of comfortability using a slab of plastic EIGHT times the area of one controller as a command device for this game. You can imagine the frustration escalating trying to move said slab onto my lap where I usually sit to play my many games to try to play the game, and that is not including finding space for the awful use of the mouse… and my mouse is a trackball so I pity gamers whom are coping with a usual mouse.

Something tells me third-party crapware in regards to peripheral branded products is part of the problem that is holding you back here. This issue is not a console over pc issue. It is about feeling comfortable in-game in order to want to actually come in -game and play without feeling trammelled by a device that personally, I feel belongs in the nineties. some, many folk are fine using a mouse to play this game with, I am not one of those people and when I say publically in-game that I am having trouble, I get many folk agreeing that thegame NEEDS a default controller setting for those of us whom need these settings.

That’s all, I will add that I do not expect you to find all of the lettered commands onto a pad, movement is the major issue here, but I DO expect you to provide me and many more folk whom need them, these settings which without them, is stopping us from enjoying the beauty of the game’s world.

mutatis MUTANDIS…

Just install joytokey. Its a free program that will allow you to do that – even allows you to control mouse. Problem solved.

http://dailyoftheday.com/he-makes-gaming-without-hands-look-easy/#disqus_thread

Also, if this guy can play the game on a mouse and keyboard using only his head and face, I’m pretty sure people with hands can learn.