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Posted by: Zietlogik.6208

Zietlogik.6208

Basically: Flesh out the existing LFG system from the original Guild Wars

This is not for a typical dungeon finder mechanic, this is for something more specified and controllable.

Have a Menu/Window you can access that will let you choose from a few basic options (which become more specified)

Select: General PvE, WvW, Dungeons, etc.

And when you select the gameplay you wish to find a group for, it then gives you options that specify what you are looking for.

Example:

-Open Window
-Select “Dungeons” from the dropdown menu
-Window lists all available dungeons (that you are able to enter) and you select the ones you wish to run (via a simple “check mark”)
-This starts a “search” that uses the filters you selected to list (in pages) the users that are also looking to do the same content, as well as their class and level.

From this final search window you can invite people to your party, or attempt to join semi-built parties.

(there will be options for party leaders using this feature to disable self-invites, etc. to their party, for those who wish to build specific party types)

This removes the random aspect of standard dungeon finders (creating parties of random people IT chooses), and also opens up to the opportunity for players to easily build parties for the content they wish to do instead of areas they don’t.

EDIT: Also please restrict party size ONLY in party restricted areas (such as dungeons)

Other areas (PvE / WvW) should have a much larger, if not infinite, party size capability

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Posted by: chudbrain.4589

chudbrain.4589

YES! i want this!

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Posted by: Zietlogik.6208

Zietlogik.6208

if only lol, I heard they were working on some kind of improved LFG feature, but they can say alot of things and implement none of them so…

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Posted by: mrsmusedfable.6875

mrsmusedfable.6875

Yes please…or any LFG system that functions properly would be acceptable to me.

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Posted by: Zietlogik.6208

Zietlogik.6208

Even a blog post about what they are planning would be nice, but hopefully when it happens, it works well

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Posted by: tweeve.3782

tweeve.3782

YES I agree Guild Wars 2 needs a better way to find parties.
Something like what was in GW1 would work awesome for Dungeons.
you can find a group with ease then.

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Posted by: Twinkiman.2610

Twinkiman.2610

I think this feature is highly needed. It is getting really hard to find a group for dungeons. On top of that, I am mostly a night gamer, when most people are sleeping. Which makes forming a party even more difficult. A LFG feature would be great, and help make dungeons more used.

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Posted by: Aeschines.1209

Aeschines.1209

I entirely agree. LFG is a pain in the a… in the current setup, and urgently needs better automation.

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Posted by: tetsuo.7318

tetsuo.7318

The current system,shouting in mapchat every 5 min and the lfg flag that most ppl dont even know it exists (not that it matters its just a joke anyway) is laughable bad for an AAA MMO, they need to fix that asap.

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Posted by: crazyryoga.1876

crazyryoga.1876

I’m totally against any LFG tool, everyone would be then in a major city jumping around waiting to insta-join something without any efford. I like the way it is now, if you want to do something you just can use the nearest dungeon WP and find someone. This is not hard at all.

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Posted by: GummiBear.2756

GummiBear.2756

I’m totally against any LFG tool, everyone would be then in a major city jumping around waiting to insta-join something without any efford. I like the way it is now, if you want to do something you just can use the nearest dungeon WP and find someone. This is not hard at all.

… everyone is already standing around in LA spamming LFG, with a proper LFG toll you could actually be out in the world exploring etc while looking for a group

so yeah i fully support the OP, a fine way to do it

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Posted by: Keldane.1802

Keldane.1802

Totally support this.

I don’t see how you could reasonably be against this. I don’t think the game should have an automated Dungeon Finder system like that in WoW, SWtOR or Rift where you get placed in a group and ported there (although the lazy guy inside me does wish it sometimes). However a UI element to adverstise that you are LFG that people forming groups can look at and invite people from seems like a no-brainer.

As well as GW1 most other games started out with a system like this – it’s what WoW used before Dungeon Finder – and the only weakness of such a system was that it would be full of DPS and no Tanks (who could always get a group without listing themselves on the tool). In this game, with no holy trinity of class roles, that weakness wouldn’t be there and this system would work exceptionally well, IMO – possibly even better than a computer-automated system since the variances in group makeup are more subtle here and better to compensate with a human putting their groups together.

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Posted by: haviz.1340

haviz.1340

I support this in 100%. With each new feature we are closer to standard mmos so why not implement another standard mmo feature? Shouting in map chat is so old and doesn’t belong to truly AAA mmo.

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Posted by: Zietlogik.6208

Zietlogik.6208

I’m totally against any LFG tool, everyone would be then in a major city jumping around waiting to insta-join something without any efford. I like the way it is now, if you want to do something you just can use the nearest dungeon WP and find someone. This is not hard at all.

for the 20-30 people around the dungeon, there are most likely countless more off doing other things, but they probably still want to do the dungeon as well.

I am one of those people, I like doing dungeons, but I don’t like standing in town/dungeon area spamming LFG, i’m around in various zones doing various things.

You have it completely backwards…

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Posted by: Kaimick.5109

Kaimick.5109

I’m totally against any LFG tool, everyone would be then in a major city jumping around waiting to insta-join something without any effort. I like the way it is now, if you want to do something you just can use the nearest dungeon WP and find someone. This is not hard at all.

I do believe you have this in a wrong opinion. At any given time i can sit in Lion’s Arch and see nothing but LFG 80 Necro FoTM Lave 3 ect ect. Half the time i can not get a simple question answered as my question is flooded out by the GLF or LFG .

To implement a system that puts you into a que area and people can look through and create groups form that while you go out to what ever area your in and explore or farm would be great. I think the Ideal of an automated one like wow has is not needed at all. But one defiantly needs to be put into place.

At this point in time what your are suggesting is a LFG system is going to cause the wow effect of people jumping around/ standing in major cities and waiting to que. This is the reason you disagree with it, well at the current time with no application in place the WoW effect is still happening. So Please think about it for a second and realize that if it is already happening why not put one in place? What is the worse that is going to happen, the lazy people regardless of system are still going to stand waiting?

I support this Idea

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Posted by: Zietlogik.6208

Zietlogik.6208

I doubt it would stop the “LFG” spam in towns, but it would lower it at least….

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Posted by: robinsiebler.3801

robinsiebler.3801

DDO has an excellent LFG feature. I have posted about it before and included a screen shot, but I am too lazy to search for the link.

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Posted by: Zietlogik.6208

Zietlogik.6208

I played a little bit of DDO but never used the LFG feature, no idea how it works, might have to look into it.

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Posted by: Kaimick.5109

Kaimick.5109

I doubt it would stop the “LFG” spam in towns, but it would lower it at least….

Your right it defiantly wont stop the LFG spam but I am betting it would dampen it by at least 60% – 75% and that in any game is a good thing.

And the people that stay in the major cities and spam LFG in Map are the same people that no matter what you did will only sit in towns and never do anything in a game.

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Posted by: Zietlogik.6208

Zietlogik.6208

I doubt it would stop the “LFG” spam in towns, but it would lower it at least….

Your right it defiantly wont stop the LFG spam but I am betting it would dampen it by at least 60% – 75% and that in any game is a good thing.

And the people that stay in the major cities and spam LFG in Map are the same people that no matter what you did will only sit in towns and never do anything in a game.

It may convert a few, if they are people, and they are logically thinking people, then they would realize than even if they ONLY thing they want to do is dungeons, a LFG feature that lets you create parties anywhere for anything, means anywhere they choose to be is a central hub, and that may make them explore a little, even if it is just running around while they create/look for a dungeon party.

But i’m no expert on these types of people, so they may simply tunnel vision into the same ol’ and stand on some random pole in town with their chat box constantly open :p

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Posted by: Kaimick.5109

Kaimick.5109

And this is correct, I think I was in rebuttle originally to crazyryoga.1876 sayign it would cause more people to pole stand and keep their chat window open as you say. When in reality we already have people doing this with out it, because going into Orr and spamming LFG CoF path 1,2,3 is somewhat silly. so Lion’s arch makes perfect sense as of now.

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Posted by: Zietlogik.6208

Zietlogik.6208

I wish Anet were a little more transparent, or alot more transparent, like how they were prior to the games launch…they gave us blogs and info out the wazoo….but now? crickets

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Posted by: Kaimick.5109

Kaimick.5109

That is because Anet had 5 years to find out what they needed to talk about and in 6 months they talked about it all to the public… now is the time to let them do their job enjoy your game and either accept what they do because they make a game that makes millions of dollars or leave ;-)

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Posted by: Sniku.6837

Sniku.6837

also allow 10 man partys pls

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Posted by: Zietlogik.6208

Zietlogik.6208

Yes, larger parties would be nice, maybe limit them into entry from some areas, but I so NO reason to have a limit of 5 people in any area other than dungeons and sPvP…..we should be able to have unlimited group size in pve/WvW…

The only issue I could forsee with that, is that the server is near capacity and would not let in the entire group in.

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Posted by: naoseiisso.7418

naoseiisso.7418

WvW is almost impossible to play with limit of 5 players in a party, even using vent and teamspeak is not easy. It’s so horrible to play WvW when you have 6 guild members and someone will stay out or you have to create 2 parties with 3 players… Is this for real? C’mon! Then the other team has at least 30 players around your keep and you can’t even organize a group of 20 players that are in the area looking for other players! Yes, players looking for players are not finding players! I really lost my patience, sorry, but this is still horrible.

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Posted by: toafarmer.8401

toafarmer.8401

meh i just opened a topic asking for a dungeon finder, i should have read this 1st. i dont even understand why Anet released a game without this, specially for a game where living together is encouraged.

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Posted by: Zietlogik.6208

Zietlogik.6208

Ok, I went to edit the OP to also include the party size thing, but it is pretty helpful.

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Posted by: Negrul.5423

Negrul.5423

If it’s not going to be an automated dungeon finder, that makes the group and teleports you to the dungeon, there’s no point in changing the current LFG tool.

No more “inbetween” lfg tools, just make a proper dungeon finder so we don’t have to wait for an entire hour in LA to get a group for Sorrow’s Embrace .

Proper Dungeon Finder is needed.

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Posted by: Zietlogik.6208

Zietlogik.6208

If it’s not going to be an automated dungeon finder, that makes the group and teleports you to the dungeon, there’s no point in changing the current LFG tool.

No more “inbetween” lfg tools, just make a proper dungeon finder so we don’t have to wait for an entire hour in LA to get a group for Sorrow’s Embrace .

No….that is the worst form of LFG I could think of, this does not promote anything other than “i wanna farm dungeons” mentality

the automatic kind of LFG caters to people who don’t CARE that they are in a group, they just NEED one to do the content, and couldn’t give 2 kittens about who else is on their team….they just wanna run dungeons mindlessly for tokens etc.

The current LFG feature is practically non-existent, so your “no point” argument is not really an argument, it is just simply: wrong.

Perhaps you should try reading the suggestion before adding your 2 cents, because that tends to just roll them down the drain.

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Posted by: Negrul.5423

Negrul.5423

No….that is the worst form of LFG I could think of, this does not promote anything other than “i wanna farm dungeons” mentality

Saying that’s what “you can think of” it’s not an argument, it’s you having no arguments at all.

the automatic kind of LFG caters to people who don’t CARE that they are in a group, they just NEED one to do the content, and couldn’t give 2 kittens about who else is on their team….they just wanna run dungeons mindlessly for tokens etc.

Nothing wrong with wanting to run dungeons, after all it’s a video game so one would want to play it, not stand around in one place for hours looking for others to play with.

The current LFG feature is practically non-existent, so your “no point” argument is not really an argument, it is just simply: wrong.

I’ll say this again, maybe you will be able to understand it this time: change the current LFG tool only to dungeon finder, nothing less; making it anything else, will not be of much help, if any, to finding a group.

Perhaps you should try reading the suggestion before adding your 2 cents, because that tends to just roll them down the drain.

Perhaps you should try understanding the suggestion…

Proper Dungeon Finder is needed.

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Posted by: Zietlogik.6208

Zietlogik.6208

Don’t reply if you cannot add anything constructive to this suggestion, you seem to have misinterpreted everything I have posted so far, including the OP.

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Posted by: Zietlogik.6208

Zietlogik.6208

I just realized that their “lost shores and beyond” didn’t include anything for grouping or community, in exception to the Guild bit.

Seems a little unfortunate, but I am sure they have a mile long list of things they are looking into that we will never see.

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Posted by: Rinbox.2570

Rinbox.2570

I just realized that their “lost shores and beyond” didn’t include anything for grouping or community, in exception to the Guild bit.

Seems a little unfortunate, but I am sure they have a mile long list of things they are looking into that we will never see.

Very true im certain they do have a long list. However this issue is quickly creeping up the charts im sure. the amount of hate happening right now for the whole fractal dungeon and with nobody able to find groups and forum raging over it its going to be impossible for them to ignore for much longer. A dungeon tool, regardless of the end result they decide to go for needs to be implemented one way or another

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Posted by: Kal.2376

Kal.2376

I’m all for this. It’s basically a tool that does the same thing as spamming “LFG Xdungeon, PST”, which is basically advertising for a dungeon, but in a neat UI tool that can be accessed anywhere. We definitely need this.

I’m not for a full automated tool with auto-grouping, auto-porting, etc. I just do not think that it is needed, nor does it add anything to the game. It can actually subtract from it (the "I-don’t-care-what-happens mentality, I can just get another group regardless of my reputation).

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Posted by: Zietlogik.6208

Zietlogik.6208

Wish they would release some new blog posts or something, they really slowed down on info after launch, and the amount of transparency is severely lacking.

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Posted by: Neilos Tyrhanos.5427

Neilos Tyrhanos.5427

This is much needed. Most important element of it would be it being cross-server.

I have a lot of trouble finding groups sometimes, particularly for underdone dungeons like SE.

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Posted by: Zietlogik.6208

Zietlogik.6208

Ah, yes, it does need to be global, just like the Trading Post, it may be problematic initially, but they can fix it hopefully

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Posted by: Fabuloso.7846

Fabuloso.7846

we need it as soon as possible

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Posted by: CureForLiving.5360

CureForLiving.5360

Thumbs up from me, although I still feel a bit unsure about it overall. I like the idea of being able to login click a button and be off to enjoy some dungeon action, but on the other hand I fear it going the way of WoW and becoming a daily grindfest. Still if done right I think it can be beneficial.

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Posted by: Brownies.2901

Brownies.2901

Pretty please develop something like this. It would solve the LA chat floods for LFG as well.

1.) Make it global please! Perhaps server select ability as a filter, off by default.
2.) Enable players to choose common options – each dungeon, WvW, or exploring / area clear (limited to server only until guesting is available) WITH the ability for entering custom messages.

In my opinion if all personal story quests have been fixed (which they seem to be), implemented this should take a very high priority.

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Posted by: Zietlogik.6208

Zietlogik.6208

Ya, it would more or less be an interactive list, that you can invite/message people from, as well as view the players who wish to do certain content, and the content you want to do as well.

I hope they don’t add achievements etc. to it, like they did with PvP, it seems rather pointless, although I can see where they are coming from, it entices players to use the features etc. more because things like achieves and shinies are attached to it.

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Posted by: Syn.5932

Syn.5932

I fully support this idea. In fact, I have more or less given up on running dungeons (any and all) until some sort of refined party-grouping system is added past shouting in chat.

Additionally, I share the view that this grouper should not be automated, as doing so more often than not causes grief than success.

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Posted by: blue.8629

blue.8629

The only people i normally see around dungeons or AC, and what about people that play later?
All i want in an option to say what you’re looking for… TA EXP. Done. Have the option to invite and request to partys – what’s the issue? Sick of spamming LA..

Blue… My name is a colour.

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Posted by: Zietlogik.6208

Zietlogik.6208

The only people i normally see around dungeons or AC, and what about people that play later?
All i want in an option to say what you’re looking for… TA EXP. Done. Have the option to invite and request to partys – what’s the issue? Sick of spamming LA..

Yep, that is pretty much what the idea is. Hopefully it is not too hard to implement, the system they had in Guild Wars was a fragment of what they could potentially create.

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Posted by: Zoke.2147

Zoke.2147

Game is gona need a dungeon finder, it’ll be god awful for how difficult the dungeons are, but I can’t even get a guild to do them after they’ve gotten their armor.

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Posted by: Zietlogik.6208

Zietlogik.6208

Game is gona need a dungeon finder, it’ll be god awful for how difficult the dungeons are, but I can’t even get a guild to do them after they’ve gotten their armor.

Well dungeon items are pretty much just for aesthetics, since you can craft and buy with karma (easier now) max level exotic armors.

But the idea is not just for a dungeon finder, it would be for all and any type of group you are looking for.

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Posted by: Lithorec.2048

Lithorec.2048

Im totally supporting this! The current LFG system is a joke. A clean interface with check-boxes for what content you are looking for, with no auto-join or auto-teleport function would be a significant upgrade to this game. Every time i have tried looking for a dungeon-run, I end up standing in front of the dungeon for 15+ min trying to get a group going and apparently “spamming” the chat because i typed in “LFX More ppl” more than twice within 10 min :p

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Posted by: Thoressen.3794

Thoressen.3794

I support this idea

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Posted by: Lalangamena.3694

Lalangamena.3694

DDO has an excellent LFG feature. I have posted about it before and included a screen shot, but I am too lazy to search for the link.

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this.

one of the best LFG tools around.

simple and effective.