Guild Wars 2

I agree fully with this, the game is simply stunning. But the legendaries are ugly as sin and often just ruin the environment with their appearance.

Many people like way over the top effects and weapons that make no sense whatsoever (like shooting unicorns, wat)
But please Anet give us a toggle option for the footprints at least, people are leaking all over Tyria ^^

Tyria needs bathrooms.

Agreed. I’m actually getting really surprised as to why there isn’t a toggle option for the legendary effects yet, especially since ArenaNET added more legendary effects few patches ago. In a big group of people there’s always several guys with these weapons and so my whole screen gets filled with that unnecessary stainstorm. I don’t mind people getting special effects for the effort they made to gain the legendary weapon if that’s what they like, but why does it have to affect my playing experience?

I agree, and would love a toggle for this as well.

I’d like this as well. I’ve never understood the appeal of legendaries’ footprints. They look like a mess to me.

Hated the shortbow legendary so I transmuted it to super shortbow. Graphics problem solved and all the goodness of the stats preserved.

thefantasticg.3984:

Hated the shortbow legendary so I transmuted it to super shortbow. Graphics problem solved and all the goodness of the stats preserved.

?!?!??!!?
That’s like the most ridiculous thing someone can do. Why not just keep your legendary, make an ascended bow and apply a super skin?

Agreed… You’d think that with the work required to get a legendary that you would have.. gee I don’t know.. checked some preview videos to see if you actually liked it or not before crafting/buying. But then again, some people do have more gold than sense.. Then again.. I have been considering reskinning my Frostfang with a Zenith Reaver… Lol

Why? The stats remain the same. I can still select what stats I want out of combat. Which you cannot do with the ascended shortbow. After the legendary graphics update I could no longer stomach the unicorn bow. It had to go. It. Was. Terrible. Now it is better and matches my long bow. Unlike twlight, sunrise, predator, or the dagger (whatever it is called) the shortbow graphics were horrible in the worst way. I had already equipped the lover before deciding to go after the legendary… I also started making it way before I knew I was goign to pull 7 other precursors from the forge. So, yeah. The unicorn bow had to go.

PS: I didn’t really work for it. A month later (after I had equipped the lover) I pulled the leaf of kudzu. Sold it. Paid for all the mats to make the dreamer. Had my legendary within two months of pulling the lover from the forge.

thefantasticg.3984:

Why? The stats remain the same. I can still select what stats I want out of combat. Which you cannot do with the ascended shortbow. After the legendary graphics update I could no longer stomach the unicorn bow. It had to go. It. Was. Terrible. Now it is better and matches my long bow. Unlike twlight, sunrise, predator, or the dagger (whatever it is called) the shortbow graphics were horrible in the worst way. I had already equipped the lover before deciding to go after the legendary… I also started making it way before I knew I was goign to pull 7 other precursors from the forge. So, yeah. The unicorn bow had to go.

PS: I didn’t really work for it. A month later (after I had equipped the lover) I pulled the leaf of kudzu. Sold it. Paid for all the mats to make the dreamer. Had my legendary within two months of pulling the lover from the forge.

I do like the footprints from the dreamer and they are not over the top.

I guess we agree to disagree then I don’t like the footpritns and they were over the top. It’s all good now on my toon though.

Even my wife who thought the bow was “just stupid” in her words pre-patch was disgusted by it post-patch.

Astartes.2380:

I have no problem with people wanting unicorns flying out of their bows, oil spills to put the BP disaster to shame or strange colours oozing out as if they’ve just been hit by Ebola…but why must the rest of us have our entire environment affected by it for miles and miles?

Surely two or three footsteps of black vegemite/oil spill and 20% of the current ‘weapon swing’ smear of Twilight would have been more than enough?

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I found it amusing that you mix environmental concerns with the notion of graphical purity of the video game being spoilt by these extraneous effects

I’m all for as many options for customisation as possible.

Would be nice. You have this pretty landscape then it gets marred by all these trails of green vomit puddles. If the legendary wielders want that let them have it but an option or checkbox to remove the effects would be used the second I got it.

No support. Would reduce the value of legendaries.

If you are not forced to see the effects, how will you ever know that guy 200 yards away has a legendary??? I don’t agree or disagree with turning off effects, but I understand why they’re there in the first place. This is a game of “how I look”. People who grind out mats or gold for the legendary need others to know they have it maybe?

Personally, the effects don’t bother me because I don’t see that many people with those weapons. Maybe if every other person had one I’d be annoyed. For the record I don’t have one myself and I go back and forth on whether or not I want one. IMHO I don’t find any of them have the “look” I’m going for.

only thing that bothers me are the unicorns lol who came up with that idea?

Stupid idea, people worked for their legendaries to show their work, if you can turn it off there goes half the point.

While you are at it, why not make it so you can hide titles? Map achievements? What about certain types of armor? I find alot of them ugly, or certain races? Big characters block my vision alot more than legendaries, can I choose only to see Asuras? Why not just hide everything altogether?

With all the hateful and disgusting imagery and comparisons in the OP I can only assume it’s less about appearance and more about you not being able to get a legendary, and would like an option to not see them so you are not constantly reminded of something you can not achieve.

Either way, dumb post.

Antinegative.4872:

Stupid idea, people worked for their legendaries to show their work, if you can turn it off there goes half the point.

While you are at it, why not make it so you can hide titles? Map achievements? What about certain types of armor? I find alot of them ugly, or certain races? Big characters block my vision alot more than legendaries, can I choose only to see Asuras? Why not just hide everything altogether?

With all the hateful and disgusting imagery and comparisons in the OP I can only assume it’s less about appearance and more about you not being able to get a legendary, and would like an option to not see them so you are not constantly reminded of something you can not achieve.

Either way, dumb post.

Your post gave me a good laugh : P

Not many things are funnier than seeing someone call a post dumb after making a very dumb comment himself.

Keep it up

EDIT: If i use your broken logic i could easily say that you want people to have to look at the ugly effects of the legendaries because you have a desperate need for people to aknowledge your hard work grinding for an ugly skin, you need people to look at it and go ‘’oooh amazing’’ because of some need to be admired. Even though they most likely have the exact opposite reaction.

Base logic like that is easy to throw around and usually false.

Antinegative.4872:

While you are at it, why not make it so you can hide titles?

Yes please, that’s a great idea. And vanity backpacks too. The visual clutter is getting ridiculous.

ozmaniandevil.6805:

If you are not forced to see the effects, how will you ever know that guy 200 yards away has a legendary??? I don’t agree or disagree with turning off effects, but I understand why they’re there in the first place. This is a game of “how I look”. People who grind out mats or gold for the legendary need others to know they have it maybe?

Personally, the effects don’t bother me because I don’t see that many people with those weapons. Maybe if every other person had one I’d be annoyed. For the record I don’t have one myself and I go back and forth on whether or not I want one. IMHO I don’t find any of them have the “look” I’m going for.

Every 5th or so person has a legendary these days wherever i look and the effects are everywhere. People with legendaries can be as proud of their look as they want but some of the legendary effects are really just very ugly and everytime you come across them the reaction is… why do they have to look so bad.

It is not about having to see someone has a legendary, it is about just how ugly as sin they are.(i am mostly talking about the effects on the ground, i dont expect us to be able to toggle off the weapon itself)

I agree.
While some of the effects have to be toned down – there are some that completely break the feel of the game for me.

Yes- I’m talking here about the bow that shoots unicorns. That has to stop.
I can’t take the game seriously or be immersed if there’s a person armed with that around.

Dye usage for weapon particles please.

Gathslan we must be on different servers! I’ve personally not seen more than 2 or 3 even in large groups. As I mentioned, I might feel more strongly one way or the other if I found my in-game sight affected. Personally, my issue is with WvW sight issues. Big zerg = I can’t see anything. I lose my character all the time Not just with name tags and toons, but weapon effects such as lightning, fire, explosions, etc. My computer fan sounds like a jet engine from trying to keep up with the graphics in this game in general!

Sure, why not. And while they’re at it, a toggle off for particle effects on spells/attacks might make group events more palatable.

Agree! And if there were an option to turn every other character model to that default model, I would turn it on. Expecially for WvW where those ridicolous footsteps and backitems have to be rendered and clutter my screen….for what? Aaah ookeeeyyy, because that guy “worked so hard to get it”? Well, who cares? Thats his problem.

It will get even worse with every year….and total mess then, just wait and see.

I too agree with this. You sit back and wonder about this games performance issues and here’s one small area that could possible help. Like the Jor Sword, it glows and lights up the areas around me, but no one else can see that because it’s a lighting effect that can hurt performance to others, I guess.

I would like to see this as a option to toggle off, I don’t care to see Legendary footprints – more so in WvW!

Meh, the OP’s argument I could care less about. S/he doesn’t want them b/c they do not like the way legendary weapons look, well boohoo for you. There were a couple of the other peoples comments that gave more legitimate reason for a toggle. The visual effects from them might cause people to have less performance causing delayed reactions and such in-game. This is about the only reason I can see adding a toggle for, though there should be another one that allows players toggle to generic clothing too (don’t put all your eggs in one basket kinda thing) so they can still enjoy what people are wearing and such.

For those of us that actually have a legendary weapon and enjoy them immensely, well, it’s not like we’d lose the ability to see them ourselves we’d still be able to see what ours and others look like, as intended. It’s not like you’d lose the look of the weapon itself. Twilight would still look like you are holding the universe, the dreamer would still look like a pretty princess bow with an “ugly one horned mule” on it (this is the next legendary I’m going for), it’s just those that toggled it off wouldn’t see the unicorns streaking towards their intended targets and would make it harder for opposing WVWers to follow your breadcrumbs.

These effects are the only reason to craft legendaries. If their effects become toggleable, then they will look like just valueless exotic skins. I hope anet doesn’t add such a senseless feature. If they add this someday, they will have to refund all 1600-1700 gold cost to legendary weapon owners.

Umut.5471:

These effects are the only reason to craft legendaries. If their effects become toggleable, then they will look like just valueless exotic skins. I hope anet doesn’t add such a senseless feature. If they add this someday, they will have to refund all 1600-1700 gold cost to legendary weapon owners.

People who would turn off legendary effects don’t care that you have a legendary in the first place. So if they turn them off, you aren’t losing anything. You won’t be losing the awe factor if it would never have been there in the first place.

If your enjoyment of the game comes from flaunting a sparkly, expensive weapon in the faces of people who don’t care, then you may need to reevaluate your priorities.

Some people don’t want to have these weapons shown on their screen, sometimes it’s just a bit too much.

This is like your next door neighbor griping when you ask him to turn down his obnoxiously loud music. “If I’m not disturbing my neighbors then how will they know how great a stereo I bought?”

Won’t ever happen. This game is almost entirely built around cosmetics and looks. If they make it so that no one can see your looks then the entire purpose of the game is gone and so is the carrot and by extension their money.

The footfalls are ridiculously dumb looking. I find it funny how aggressive people are against the idea of using town clothes as armor due to that being immersion breaking and yet they’re totally fine with some dude leaving oil spills in his wake.

If people don’t care about your legendaries, why do you care? Let them turn it off. Those who do care/neutral on the subject will be able to see your legendary greatnesss. I also HIGHLY doubt many people would use this feature. Just those who are bothered I guess. This is coming from a person who only wishes to cover the world in confetti with the Quip.

Fungalfoot.7213:

The footfalls are ridiculously dumb looking. I find it funny how aggressive people are against the idea of using town clothes as armor due to that being immersion breaking and yet they’re totally fine with some dude leaving oil spills in his wake.

Haha yeah, wtf is wrong with the crazies that scream things are immersion breaking when this is a world where skeletons, elementals , and trees bleed out and get poisoned/blind along with people leaving sludge in their wake when they walk, not to mention fast travel from 1 big instanced area to another big instanced area.

Malediktus.9250:

No support. Would reduce the value of legendaries.

So the Value of legendaries is actually to annoy other players, over compensate in front of players and clog up their game with overabundance of graphical detail…

You may love the legendaries you made them but why must others be forced to see these ugly things, not everyone likes them and not to mention how much they hinder graphics cards in zergs and large groups..

I totally agree with the OP these things need to be shut off, so others can enjoy the game too.

IndigoSundown.5419:

Sure, why not. And while they’re at it, a toggle off for particle effects on spells/attacks might make group events more palatable.

Exactly thats been needed since the game opened.

I personally have a dreamer on my thief and would love if I could turn the unicorn shooting off or back to the old rainbow stars which weren’t quite as annoying. I like the thief trick shot arrow look better but like my footprints. Sometimes I think about giving it to my ranger and getting aether or something. I love incinerator though, don’t need to turn anything off on that

ZudetGambeous.9573:

Won’t ever happen. This game is almost entirely built around cosmetics and looks. If they make it so that no one can see your looks then the entire purpose of the game is gone and so is the carrot and by extension their money.

You can already give every other player a generic model, it just won’t hide their weapons or footfalls.

So no, they are not against giving players an option to hide certain cosmetic aspects of other players in the name of improved performance.

I agree with the opening post and would love to have an option : either off/on or a slider please. Thanks.

I don’t generally mind Legendary weapon effects, but I’m not surprised that some people do mind them and would like to turn them off. I’m not sure it’s a big enough issue to get anything done about it, but, then, I would have said the same thing about player-controlled instruments, and now we have a volume slider specifically for them, so I wouldn’t write it off, either.

Draehl.2681:

This is like your next door neighbor griping when you ask him to turn down his obnoxiously loud music. “If I’m not disturbing my neighbors then how will they know how great a stereo I bought?”

Quoted for truth. If someone doesn’t like seeing your magic footprints / special effects from your legendary weapon, making them see it isn’t going to make them think “Oh, what a cool hero who worked so hard for that weapon!”

They’re going to think “Ack, there goes another tool with bad taste.” If a person has the option to turn off footfalls if they don’t want to see them, they’re actually going to have more respect for the legendary user, because they’re not having unwanted special effects shoved in their face.

Is it reasonable to be able to turn off everything that irritates you about other players, like their armor choices, dye choices, commander tag, title, or name? Of course not. Is it unreasonable to ask that one particular, fairly distracting particle effect have a menu toggle? I think so.

Again, I don’t think it’s necessary and don’t really expect it. Again, I would have said the same thing about player instrument volume. Anytime you give players choices that affect their experience and only their experience, that seems like a nice thing to me.

Just a general toggle on various graphic options, spell effects, and various other cluttering things would be a nice way to reduce the lag, all the flashing lights and effects can make it really difficult to see what some enemies are doing.

I do find it funny about all the people with a legendary are freaking out about people wanting it. We aren’t jealous of your precious pixels I assure you, most of us are just annoyed with the particle effects cluttering up the screen.

Yes, a toggle would be great. I might even consider making one for myself if the effects were toggleable.

Yes

Personally I don’t agree with being able to turn off special effects for legendary’s. I am also a little confused why you didn’t mention some of the other vanity skins in your post. I personally find the super adventure box skins extremely annoying. I feel they take away from the over all atmosphere of the game.

Plus on a side note I really dont even think this should be on anet’s radar right now. They have far bigger issues at this time.

Yea, at this point Legendaries are so common it has become a bit of a problem having their “unique” effects around. I’m sure they also affect performance ever so slightly, especially in WvW.

Draehl.2681:

This is like your next door neighbor griping when you ask him to turn down his obnoxiously loud music. “If I’m not disturbing my neighbors then how will they know how great a stereo I bought?”

Nope this is more like you worked hard to get a nice stereo and when you play music on it your obnoxious neighbour doesn’t ike the music so complains to the police incessantly about it.

psy.5437:

Draehl.2681:

This is like your next door neighbor griping when you ask him to turn down his obnoxiously loud music. “If I’m not disturbing my neighbors then how will they know how great a stereo I bought?”

Nope this is more like you worked hard to get a nice stereo and when you play music on it your obnoxious neighbour doesn’t ike the music so complains to the police incessantly about it.

That is why a toggle would be great. You could play the music as loud as you want on your awesome stereo and the neighbour could click the toggle and enjoy the silence. Both would be happy

randomly.6395:

ZudetGambeous.9573:

Won’t ever happen. This game is almost entirely built around cosmetics and looks. If they make it so that no one can see your looks then the entire purpose of the game is gone and so is the carrot and by extension their money.

You can already give every other player a generic model, it just won’t hide their weapons or footfalls.

So no, they are not against giving players an option to hide certain cosmetic aspects of other players in the name of improved performance.

That’s strictly because performance trumps everything else. If you can convince the devs that these footfalls and weapons are objectively hindering your performance then they will probably give you the option. Otherwise I find it unlikely.

I personally don’t care either way. I’d be fine with people having an option, I just don’t really see it happening.

Legendaries…They are a legendary pain….

ZudetGambeous.9573:

randomly.6395:

ZudetGambeous.9573:

Won’t ever happen. This game is almost entirely built around cosmetics and looks. If they make it so that no one can see your looks then the entire purpose of the game is gone and so is the carrot and by extension their money.

You can already give every other player a generic model, it just won’t hide their weapons or footfalls.

So no, they are not against giving players an option to hide certain cosmetic aspects of other players in the name of improved performance.

That’s strictly because performance trumps everything else. If you can convince the devs that these footfalls and weapons are objectively hindering your performance then they will probably give you the option. Otherwise I find it unlikely.

I personally don’t care either way. I’d be fine with people having an option, I just don’t really see it happening.

Of course is has an impact on performance. When in any kind of zerg with multiple players moving around with legendaries the engine is having to display numerous footfalls and weapon effects. Once that zerg starts shooting/meleeing, the game bogs down massively. Multiple effects from multiple sources all triggered in a short space of time will absolutely have an bearing on the games performance.

A toggle option for basic weapon skins, no backpack effects, and a further reduction in the excessive number of particle effects generated by skills and the game would absolutely have a performance increase.

People may have paid for them, but people also paid for the instruments, and they got a slider that makes them useless.

If I can’t go around annoying people with my trumpet, I see no reason to let them annoy me with their flying rainbow unicorns.

All things fair. Either everyone can annoy everyone, or no one can annoy anyone.

Xillllix.3485:

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That’s like the most ridiculous thing someone can do. Why not just keep your legendary, make an ascended bow and apply a super skin?

Legendaries can switch stats at will. That’s way more useful that some horrible rainbow-shooting animation that makes your eyes bleed and roll back into your skull.

If you see the datamined legendary and ascended armors, you’ll understand how so many people would transmute them if the final version ends up looking like that. Because they look uglier than a grawl’s butt.