Guild Wars 2

Greetings, I recently purchased a Permanent Bank Access Contract – the way I thought it would work is that all my characters would be able to access my bank at any time, something amazing for an altoholic like myself. How it ACTUALLY works is you bind the contract to your account and you get 1x Permanent Bank Accesss Express item. Now the contract doesn’t have “Express” in the title nor does it state what you get which is very very dumb for a premium item that players like myself will look to achieve.

I’m not necessarily asking that it’s changed(though believe me I reaallly wish it worked the way I thought it did) but even a better description of what you’re getting would have saved me 200~g. As it stands right now I’m kinda disillusioned after buying this and have no real urge to play at all – I doubt anet wants to isolate and confuse their players like this.

So please at the very least add a description of what you’re getting! Or at best make it account wide(or give an ability to duplicate the perm bank access express)

Thanks for reading.

To be honest, that is how every other item works in the game. Why would Permanent Bank Access be different? I am sorry things didn’t work out the way you had thought, but I would recommend researching some before buying a 200g+ item.

Kysin.6349:

To be honest, that is how every other item works in the game. Why would Permanent Bank Access be different? I am sorry things didn’t work out the way you had thought, but I would recommend researching some before buying a 200g+ item.

I’ve never bought “any other item in the game” and I did do research, only now to see that the only thing that would’ve tipped me off is under what you get when you open it on gw2db.

I really hope you aren’t arguing against a simple description being added to these premium items. Or even “Express” put in the title somewhere.

I am all for more information, it certainly can not hurt. I am just saying, even a simple gw2 wiki search or gw2db like you said, would have shown you it is a double click inventory item. So I am curious what research you did?

Kysin.6349:

I am all for more information, it certainly can not hurt. I am just saying, even a simple gw2 wiki search or gw2db like you said, would have shown you it is a double click inventory item. So I am curious what research you did?

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Permanent_Bank_Access_Contract
useless information – doesnt mention the word express, even says character(s)

http://www.gw2db.com/items/70579-permanent-bank-access-contract
Only information here is what it “contains” but even that is pretty useless as it doesn’t state that you only get one of them.

You don’t need to be so condescending – The wording of the item is confusing. It’s “account bound” and doesn’t refer to you getting 1x of the permanent bank express items. I’ve talked to many other people who were under the same impression that it was across all your characters.

I agree with the origional poster. The information is pretty poor on what the item does. TBH for 200g the expectation that it works account wide seems reasonable.

If you are taking what I am saying as condescending, I am sorry, but I am just trying to state my opinion on things. I have a number of friends with the hair/bank/merch item, none of them were ever disappointed, and knew exactly what they were receiving. And account bound simply means that the item can be used on your account exclusively. Most GW2 players know that as common knowledge. Guess it is just a matter of opinion in the end, I think the description is fine, as it is the same as all other items.

Question:

What exactly did you expect to get? A new interface button for your bank? If the qualm is that it’s an item that has to reside in the inventory of the character currently using it then I fail to understand how you thought it was going to work. I assumed it was a clickable permanent version of the express bank access. Turns out its’ a consumable that gives you exactly that.

You can still use it on all of your alts. They just need to visit a bank or crafting station one time at the beginning of play. To store just open the bank with it, then bank it right?

It permits a single character to never visit the bank again. That’s not powerful enough for you?

Kysin.6349:

If you are taking what I am saying as condescending, I am sorry, but I am just trying to state my opinion on things. I have a number of friends with the hair/bank/merch item, none of them were ever disappointed, and knew exactly what they were receiving. And account bound simply means that the item can be used on your account exclusively. Most GW2 players know that as common knowledge. Guess it is just a matter of opinion in the end, I think the description is fine, as it is the same as all other items.

The problem is in how they’re worded

for example
Permanent Black Lion Merchant Express(a permanent version of the Black Lion Merchant Express item) – totally get it. Makes sense.

Permanent Trading Post Pickup – Actually works the same way as the Bank Access and just as vague. It doesn’t state that it’s a permanent consumable for one of your characters that summons a personal merchant. Looking at this one it would make sense that you’d just be able to grab whatever items/money you’ve gotten from the trading post from your Trading Post UI(the way I figured the bank would work). It should be called “Permanent Black Lion Trader Express” and not “Permanent Trading Post Pickup”

It is common knowledge that Account bound means it can only be used on your characters – nobody’s arguing that – we’re arguing the wording that is used for these items doesn’t state what you’re actually getting.

At the very least – ArenaNet needs to make this more coherent. It’s not like it’ll take a whole bunch of effort. At the very best they should make it work like the way it sounds but that’s more wishful thinking on my part.

PopeUrban.2578:

Question:

What exactly did you expect to get? A new interface button for your bank?

Something like that – or even multiple versions of the item received in the mail for my characters.

PopeUrban.2578:

You can still use it on all of your alts. They just need to visit a bank or crafting station one time at the beginning of play. To store just open the bank with it, then bank it right?

It permits a single character to never visit the bank again. That’s not powerful enough for you?

No. It’s not what I wanted, and not what the item is called. I bought it specifically so I could coordinate loot and gold through all my characters.

zellurs.8601:

PopeUrban.2578:

Question:

What exactly did you expect to get? A new interface button for your bank?

Something like that – or even multiple versions of the item received in the mail for my characters.

PopeUrban.2578:

You can still use it on all of your alts. They just need to visit a bank or crafting station one time at the beginning of play. To store just open the bank with it, then bank it right?

It permits a single character to never visit the bank again. That’s not powerful enough for you?

No. It’s not what I wanted, and not what the item is called. I bought it specifically so I could coordinate loot and gold through all my characters.

I understand that, but I find it difficult to believe that you assumed you would get such a thing. Not a single item in the entire game is functional for multiple characters at the same time. What made you think the item would be usable by more than one character at a time?

I’m not disagreeing with you. They should just put a description in the tooltip to avoid people being confused and disappointed. However I have trouble figuring out how anyone would get the impression that those permanent contract items would do anything more than what they already do.

Take my example of the Trading post pickup item – Does the wording not make more sense that you’d be able to just nab items from the trading post UI without having to use a permanent consumable and then a trader?

These are premium goods. Quality of life improvements. It would actually make sense that they don’t act the same way as most other items in the game. People will get the impression that the permanent contract items will do more than what the consumable versions do because they’re not properly labelled as permanent versions of the consumables.

Description should, maybe, be changed to
“Double-click to receive and bind Permanent Bank Access Express to your account” which would closer describe what the item actually does.

Although I don’t really think its that misleading. Contracts give you account bound items. They don’t alter your interface. And the word “Contract” is there.

Fred Fargone.3127:

Although I don’t really think its that misleading. Contracts give you account bound items. They don’t alter your interface. And the word “Contract” is there.

… what?

zellurs.8601:

Fred Fargone.3127:

Although I don’t really think its that misleading. Contracts give you account bound items. They don’t alter your interface. And the word “Contract” is there.

… what?

Every “Contract” item in the game pretty much just gives you an account bound item.
And if you think about it, there are basically no items that would alter your GUI, so why assume this one does? (If your GUI isn’t altered, there is basically no way all of your characters would gain the benefits.)

And people are supposed to know this how? Seems like a pretty nonsensical and abstract to assume all the contract items give you an account bound item – even moreso to assume that this is common knowledge lol.

zellurs.8601:

And people are supposed to know this how? Seems like a pretty nonsensical and abstract to assume all the contract items give you an account bound item – even moreso to assume that this is common knowledge lol.

zellurs.8601:

Now the contract doesn’t have “Express” in the title nor does it state what you get which is very very dumb for a premium item that players like myself will look to achieve.

The same way people know how express items work. They do minimum amount of research.

for me it was obvious it would be an item that i could click over and over again to gain said service. never tought of an item for all characters (i can give them btw it’s not soulbound). and also price is decided in the tp by players and not from anet. so it is expensive because player decided so.

Fred Fargone.3127:

zellurs.8601:

And people are supposed to know this how? Seems like a pretty nonsensical and abstract to assume all the contract items give you an account bound item – even moreso to assume that this is common knowledge lol.

zellurs.8601:

Now the contract doesn’t have “Express” in the title nor does it state what you get which is very very dumb for a premium item that players like myself will look to achieve.

The same way people know how express items work. They do minimum amount of research.

There are 4 different item “contracts” in the game all over 100g – to assume everyone knows what “contract” means in GW2 terms is absolutely asinine. With Express items the information is presented in the subtext – with the Contracts there’s nothing.

I would say something closer to the hall of monuments portal stone. You get one on creation of a new toon, and there is a place to go get another if you lose the origional.

PopeUrban.2578:

I understand that, but I find it difficult to believe that you assumed you would get such a thing. Not a single item in the entire game is functional for multiple characters at the same time. What made you think the item would be usable by more than one character at a time?

zellurs.8601:

Fred Fargone.3127:

zellurs.8601:

And people are supposed to know this how? Seems like a pretty nonsensical and abstract to assume all the contract items give you an account bound item – even moreso to assume that this is common knowledge lol.

zellurs.8601:

Now the contract doesn’t have “Express” in the title nor does it state what you get which is very very dumb for a premium item that players like myself will look to achieve.

The same way people know how express items work. They do minimum amount of research.

There are 4 different item “contracts” in the game all over 100g – to assume everyone knows what “contract” means in GW2 terms is absolutely asinine. With Express items the information is presented in the subtext – with the Contracts there’s nothing.

Not everyone needs to know. However, when you are going to spend gold worth over 100$ real life cash on a single item, it should be safe to assume you know what you are doing, or atleast research a bit before purchase. (Or that you are some sort of millionaire who doesn’t care if the race horse he just bought is actually alive or not.)

7300 gems are needed to get 100g at the moment.
Naturally, irl cash is used here only as a reference to understand the price of the item we are talking about.

Fred Fargone.3127:

zellurs.8601:

Fred Fargone.3127:

zellurs.8601:

And people are supposed to know this how? Seems like a pretty nonsensical and abstract to assume all the contract items give you an account bound item – even moreso to assume that this is common knowledge lol.

zellurs.8601:

Now the contract doesn’t have “Express” in the title nor does it state what you get which is very very dumb for a premium item that players like myself will look to achieve.

The same way people know how express items work. They do minimum amount of research.

There are 4 different item “contracts” in the game all over 100g – to assume everyone knows what “contract” means in GW2 terms is absolutely asinine. With Express items the information is presented in the subtext – with the Contracts there’s nothing.

Not everyone needs to know. However, when you are going to spend gold worth over 100$ real life cash on a single item, it should be safe to assume you know what you are doing, or atleast research a bit before purchase. (Or that you are some sort of millionaire who doesn’t care if the race horse he just bought is actually alive or not.)

7300 gems are needed to get 100g at the moment.
Naturally, irl cash is used here only as a reference to understand the price of the item we are talking about.

Think you’re missing this post
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/suggestions/Grievance-with-Permanent-Bank-Access-Contract/first#post1562408
Though really, are you arguing against more clarity? What I’m suggesting is a very very simple change to the name of the item(which is named incorrectly) and a description.