Guild Wars 2

Hello could guardians please get another range weapon such as a longbow, this could have cool ability’s and shoot blue magic fire arrows for example, the scepter is ok but it lacks big aoe like the warrior longbow and feels far too slow, and the staff aoe is too close range for me.

The choices i would like to see in order would be…

1. Longbow – Could have heals and blue aoe fire like warrior’s
2. Rifle – Could be a sort of magic en fussed gun
3. Short bow – Similar to longbow but 1200 range

Mainhand/ Offhand (only)/ Special; Total

Warrior: 7/ 2/ 1; 10
Guardian: 6/ 3/ 2; 10
Ranger: 5/ 3/ 0; 8
Thief: 4/ 0/ 0; 4
Mesmer: 4/ 3/ 0; 7
Necromancer: 4/ 2/ 3; 9
Elementalist: 3/ 1/ 6; 10
Engineer: 2/ 1/ 7; 10

And you seriously ask for the guardian to get another 1200 range weapon set? Thief doesn’t even have one.

Before that, give Mesmers mainhand pistol, bow or mainhand focus.

Nretep.2564:

Mainhand/ Offhand (only)/ Special; Total

Warrior: 7/ 2/ 1; 10
Guardian: 6/ 3/ 2; 10
Ranger: 5/ 3/ 0; 8
Thief: 4/ 0/ 0; 4
Mesmer: 4/ 3/ 0; 7
Necromancer: 4/ 2/ 3; 9
Elementalist: 3/ 1/ 6; 10
Engineer: 2/ 1/ 7; 10

And you seriously ask for the guardian to get another 1200 range weapon set? Thief doesn’t even have one.

Before that, give Mesmers mainhand pistol, bow or mainhand focus.

Don’t guardians only have 1 land 1200 range weapon? why shoulder we get another the scepter sucks for pvp speed and aoe.

we have freaking eles dual wielding daggers, mesmers with 2h swords, traditional RP is out of the window here lol, why would a guardian in reality not get a bow? tbh with magic they are more likely to use one than a plate armored warrior

I’m not saying a Guardian with a bow is “unrealistic”, just that you’re pretty spoiled. Having a Guardian and a Warrior, you’re flooded with weapons. Play another class and feel that those two have enough weapons.

Adam Chattaway.6418:

why would a guardian in reality not get a bow? tbh with magic they are more likely to use one than a plate armored warrior

Guardian is also plate armored..

Because guardians are GUARDians, more for protection..
Warriors are WARriors so they do the attacking..

So no i dont see any logic why a guardian should have a Lbow..
and + healing on longbow skills? lol in close combakittens hard to beat guardians because they have marks that damage foe’s and heal the guardian..
Best way is too go range damage them and you ask a 1200 range weapon that also heals.. + ofc burning..

So you ask for warrior longbow skills.. but also + healing.. on a guardian that have plenty healing…

Lol.. no i hope not.

If so give warriors a staff that also have the insane healing of a guardian.

nicknamenick.2437:

Adam Chattaway.6418:

why would a guardian in reality not get a bow? tbh with magic they are more likely to use one than a plate armored warrior

Guardian is also plate armored..

Because guardians are GUARDians, more for protection..
Warriors are WARriors so they do the attacking..

So no i dont see any logic why a guardian should have a Lbow..
and + healing on longbow skills? lol in close combakittens hard to beat guardians because they have marks that damage foe’s and heal the guardian..
Best way is too go range damage them and you ask a 1200 range weapon that also heals.. + ofc burning..

So you ask for warrior longbow skills.. but also + healing.. on a guardian that have plenty healing…

Lol.. no i hope not.

If so give warriors a staff that also have the insane healing of a guardian.

I dont feel my healing is OP, especially when in WVW last night a warrior killed me in under 2 seconds, the frost bow a ele makes does healing and aoe. The point is the AOE on a guardian is so small.

A warrior is build on brutality and fighting up close, a guardian would be a guard, so they would be most logical to have a bow to stand back and defend areas while supporting a with a bow ect, this is why i think it makes more sense for a guardian to have one, after all warriors have guns.

And like in the war of the roses guns are powerful and very short range making them good for warriors to have.

Actually, it’s the opposite. You need accuracy and swiftness to use a bow. Wearing super heavy armor is not meant to be used here. Guardians are supposed to be the front liners. Heavy armor with heavy weapons (speaking realistically). Warriors are the same, but they sacrifice a bit armor for mobility/ attacking power.
You don’t need heavy armor when you stand in the back, do you? Archers were leather wearer (or even fabric for asian ones … well any asian one wore fabric). Scholars are even further in the back, developing weapons without touching the battlefield. That’s why they wore light “armors”.

Want to be a devasting damage, healing artillery? Standing in the back, healing the front and not being attacked once? The bow should have an anti-aggro skill, right?

Nretep.2564:

Actually, it’s the opposite. You need accuracy and swiftness to use a bow. Wearing super heavy armor is not meant to be used here. Guardians are supposed to be the front liners. Heavy armor with heavy weapons (speaking realistically). Warriors are the same, but they sacrifice a bit armor for mobility/ attacking power.
You don’t need heavy armor when you stand in the back, do you? Archers were leather wearer (or even fabric for asian ones … well any asian one wore fabric). Scholars are even further in the back, developing weapons without touching the battlefield. That’s why they wore light “armors”.

Want to be a devasting damage, healing artillery? Standing in the back, healing the front and not being attacked once? The bow should have an anti-aggro skill, right?

You can shoot a bow in real life in plate Armour, it was expensive that’s why archers did not wear it, archers would get torn apart from cavalry in real life if charged, if they all had plate Armour and a sword instead of a dagger and buckler it would be different.

In games with agile dps warriors a lot of the time they do not wear full plate Armour, to gain that agility, a guardian should get a longbow if a Mesmer can have a two handed sword, did you see scholars wielding 6 foot swords?

Adam Chattaway.6418:

You can shoot a bow in real life in plate Armour, it was expensive that’s why archers did not wear it, archers would get torn apart from cavalry in real life if charged, if they all had plate Armour and a sword instead of a dagger and buckler it would be different.

In games with agile dps warriors a lot of the time they do not wear full plate Armour, to gain that agility, a guardian should get a longbow if a Mesmer can have a two handed sword, did you see scholars wielding 6 foot swords?

The mesmer is a hypnotist … his greatsword is floating and shooting beams. Yeah, I haven’t seen one IRL yet … And well, even 132cm (4.5 foot) katanas (samurai sword) weighted only ~1.5kg (~3 lbs). A good longbow weights 20kg (45lbs). If you make the arrow repel, it’s quite a force on your arms. You would’nt want to wear any non-press-fit armor while shooting.

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you even need to carefully watch your breathing while shooting an arrow (more than for guns). I wouldn’t want to carry a 40kg (80+lbs) armor while having to watch my breathing.
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Bows for Guardians? Neither “realistically” speaking, nor “balacing wise” speaking. “fantasy wise” speaking any class should be able to wear all weapons.

Nretep.2564:

Adam Chattaway.6418:

You can shoot a bow in real life in plate Armour, it was expensive that’s why archers did not wear it, archers would get torn apart from cavalry in real life if charged, if they all had plate Armour and a sword instead of a dagger and buckler it would be different.

In games with agile dps warriors a lot of the time they do not wear full plate Armour, to gain that agility, a guardian should get a longbow if a Mesmer can have a two handed sword, did you see scholars wielding 6 foot swords?

The mesmer is a hypnotist … his greatsword is floating and shooting beams. Yeah, I haven’t seen one IRL yet … And well, even 132cm (4.5 foot) katanas (samurai sword) weighted only ~1.5kg (~3 lbs). A good longbow weights 20kg (45lbs). If you make the arrow repel, it’s quite a force on your arms. You would’nt want to wear any non-press-fit armor while shooting.

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you even need to carefully watch your breathing while shooting an arrow (more than for guns). I wouldn’t want to carry a 40kg (80+lbs) armor while having to watch my breathing.
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Bows for Guardians? Neither “realistically” speaking, nor “balacing wise” speaking. “fantasy wise” speaking any class should be able to wear all weapons.

A katana and a longsword and a greatsword are very different in size and weight, you can’t compare a katana to a greatsword.

Well made Armour was not that bulky at all, and nowhere near as debilitating as one might think, the only reason knights did not use bows often was because they were there to lead the men into close combat and they would be more useful in expensive Armour and it was expected of them to lead.

A knight in full plate Armour may have had some issues trying to shoot an English longbow but a short bow would have been easy for them.

Only if thief gets off-hand sword. Realllly overdue at this point…

And yeah, guardian range does seem silly. Played with it for a bit and was not liking it.

I think a guardian with a longbow could make sense if it was condition/support based. It could make a condition guardian more viable, seeing as guardians only have 1 condition based weapon (torch) at the moment.