Guild Wars 2

We need the ability to veto a guild claim. A guild with more active bonuses than the current guild claim should automatically be able to claim a tower or supply camp. If you have no bonuses you shouldn’t be able to stop other guilds from claiming it and giving their hard earned bonuses to the server. Guild claiming is deeply flawed atm because most of the important structures are quickly claimed by guilds that have no buffs and will stay that way for however long the structure is under your server’s control. There needs to be a safety net to stop this from happening.

I don’t know how to make the system better except for NOT having Guild claiming at all as it is. Each structure or camp should have it’s own hero panel. Where a Guild can place it’s shield on a bonus they have available. Why only a single guild can “claim” something is flawed for an area of play called WvW. We’re supposed to be working together, right?

I know I had it happen to me a couple weeks ago on reset. Ran around the bl’s with the +5 buff upgrading and claiming the camps. Our N. camp flip’s and before we even take it back I said, “Don’t take supply, upgrading and putting +5 on it.” Of course, we take it back and someone claims it without any buffs. I was ticked off to say the least.

1) Allow a guild to UN-claim a place. Right now you can only do that by claiming something else.
2) Actually show which guild has claimed a place, not just “pink turtle on green background with yellow stripey thingies”.

From a small guild perspective this sounds like hubris. Maybe your guild needs to be capping something worth more points and possibly defending it a bit?

But I agree with the unclaiming choice needing to be implemented. If it is tactically necessary we should have that option.

Shiren.9532:

We need the ability to veto a guild claim.

There is a troll out there rubbing his hands together saying, “excellllleeeeeennnnnt!”

OR!!

While guild claiming is all fun and stuff – no one really cares, amirtie? When you attack garrison and see the banner of the Golden Rain Over The Porcelain Bowl, does that really make you want to attack it twice as badly?

Therefore, let’s divorce the guild boons from the claiming. Make a new menu option in the guild claimer menu for “adding boons”, which would be whatever your guild has activated right now. Existing boons are refreshed to their max time, others just keep ticking away. That way, a guild with more active boons can still add their stuff to a structure, there is no locking out. And if your guild has only 1 or 2 boons researched, but the 20 current boons are about to expire, you can add yours and refresh at least what you have.

Keep the claiming menu option around for flying a banner if you think anyone actually cares. Right now, since basically no one knows which guild has which emblem and you can’t see the guild name if something has been claimed it’s a total no-op IMO.

Got to agree with the ‘add your buff’ idea to the current claimant, which would be an excellent change and would make the usefulness of guild buffs so much better.

It would mean small guilds can contribute, even if it’s just one buff ’what’s missing from the buffs’ ‘ok, we’ll click that one then’.

So multiple guilds could ‘claim’ a structure, with just the first one having their symbol up (because no one knows who they are anyway!).

Mattargul.9235:

1) Allow a guild to UN-claim a place. Right now you can only do that by claiming something else.
2) Actually show which guild has claimed a place, not just “pink turtle on green background with yellow stripey thingies”.

I definitely agree with those! Maybe not on the banner, but if you go and talk to the Claim NPC, he should tell you WHO has it.

As for the veto, I don’t so much agree, because I could see that getting easily abused. Larger guilds “vetoing” a smaller guild claim because they have 1 or 2 buffs less active, for instance, would, while you’re getting the extra buffs, make it so that smaller guild would have effectively wasted theirs.

I do like the idea of allowing others to buffs on it, though that might be odd to implement, and I have a feeling anet would break WvW in the process! I just think a better way would be that if a keep has no buffs for X amount of time, the keep automatically “unclaims”, or make it so you have to have at least one buff available in order to claim stuff. All in all, I feel like it is rarely a big issue. The few times I’ve experienced “issues” with it, we’ve figured out what guild has the objective, and gotten them to unclaim it so buffs could be put on it.

Handin.4032:

I just think a better way would be that if a keep has no buffs for X amount of time, the keep automatically “unclaims”

That would be great, too, even if independent from the “any buffs” idea. Just take the longest buff time (aren’t they all 1hr?) and have structure unclaim after that time automatically. Ideally, show a timer, maybe when you ask the claimer NPC.

Shezu Tsukai.8291:

From a small guild perspective this sounds like hubris. Maybe your guild needs to be capping something worth more points and possibly defending it a bit?

But I agree with the unclaiming choice needing to be implemented. If it is tactically necessary we should have that option.

You share the map with your entire server. Being the first person to claim shouldn’t give you the ability to kitten your server’s performance defending that tower if you have no buffs. I’m not in a big guild and I don’t care about my guild emblem flying or ownership of a point – no-one cares. It’s not hubris, it’s frustration at the benefits never being seen because the majority of the time the guild that claimed never had any buffs, or they claimed two days ago and the buffs expired.

If your guild was part of the zerg that claimed your keep on EB and you have some fool who is the first to talk to the claimer before anyone else without any buffs, how is that fair to your server three days later when the keep is fully upgraded and the enemy is pushing heavily inside when you have a guild wanting to buff everyone but they can’t because of the one guild?

Herr der Friedhoefe.2490:

Shiren.9532:

We need the ability to veto a guild claim.

There is a troll out there rubbing his hands together saying, “excellllleeeeeennnnnt!”

If the troll has to have more buffs than the current claimer, it wouldn’t be much of a problem. They would be one of the most helpful trolls in the game.

I like the idea of adding a buff to a control point even if you don’t own it, it has the collaborative focus that WvW is built on, but it doesn’t emphasise the guild claiming feature which seems a deliberate focus from ArenaNet (guild claiming is supposed to make guild contributions visual in the game, in it’s current form it doesn’t do that, if you just add a buff without even displaying your emblem it is even worse at doing that). Personally I think the current system doesn’t work well and several of the above suggestions are superior to the current system. It’s flawed and needs a fix.