Guild Wars 2

Under Ranks it has Invite new players, Kick,Promote,Demote members of a lower ranking as Admin Lower rankings.
All 4 should be separate or at least Kick and Invite needs to have their individual check mark and Promote/Demote can be the same.
As a leader of a large guild I want all my members to recruit but not to kick. And not to promote or demote either. Just because a rank is above another in the list doesnt mean they have authority over that lower listed one.
For example, I have Officers and Class Leaders for 2 different ranks and Officers are “listed” above Class Leaders but they have the rank level in my guild ranking structure with different and similar duties/responsibilities.

I have had experience in GW1 with the officer position being allowed to kick. Back in the day when ABing was huge, my alliance I led was 4th and within reach of moving to 3rd when one of the top 3 alliance paid someone to “earn” an officer position to kick all 85-90+ members. Crippling my guild and alliance.

With GW2, guilds can be much bigger and someone can be hacked all to easily as we have found out and could simply kick all the members lets say 500 size since that’s currently the max. Would pretty much destroy that guild.
I know for a fact I’m not the only one out there that wants this.

P.S. Would like to add having the option to limit how much a rank is allowed to take out of the guild vaults. Again large guilds, more potential for someone to rage and take everything, even if it was a member whose been in it for a long time.

Finally the guild roster needs to be change. Looks more like a spreadsheet. There needs to be a way to see when someone joined the guild, and when is the last time they logged on. Every MMO has this. Even GW1 had this. Why GW2 doesnt is beyond me.

As much as I hate to say this, WoW still has a better guild system then GW2. As bad as GW1 system was, this one still doesnt come close to WoW’s which is quite sad considering how old WoW is.

Only positive thing I will say about GW1 guild system is the fact it was 1 guild per account. Guilds with inactive players or those who players never represent a guild(not just the few in mine but others out there as well) lose the activity and influence of having players allowed to be in other guilds. It sounded great when the game came out but it has crippled alot of guilds out there and needs a change as well.

I agree with everything you mentioned.

Especially the 4 in 1 permission. If nothing els, please make a invite members and admin members separate permissions.

I am happy that they changed it so that guild leaders can demote each other. In my guild we are 3 leaders and one got pc jacked by a flat mate who promoted everyone to leader. The entire guild demoted themselves again at least but 4 people never logged on again, so for about 2 months we had 4 extra guild leaders who were never online.

However, the fix for this problem could result in other problems occurring such as hostile take overs.

The thing that I would like to see mostly though is a thing saying when each member joined and when last they were online or representing. It’s hard to decide between people when kicking inactives when they might be actively playing at the exact times that i don’t.

Yeah its a good thing they fixed the guild leader thing, I changed my own ranking cause its listed for reason right by the Member normal ranking I had set up. The list for promotion should be how you have it ordered, not alphabetical . Or again like WoW in fixing how this guild roster is, where you can promote with up/down arrows instead or right clicking the icon.

Main thing to change is the admin lower ranks option. It is so crucial this get implemented. Even if you were friends with someone for years, things can still go south and they get pissed and end up kicking everyone before they leave. kitten happens.

Yes, this needs to happen.

I agree on about evrything you mention there KrisV, especially the part with the info about joining date and last loggin. And I would like to ad another point. We (that is our whole guild and a lot of other players we talked too) miss something like the guild hall from GW1. A place that, as a guild, you could call “your home”. I have seen guild gatherings now all over the place and I don’t think that that’s the way its supposed to be.

Wikuso Vechter, one of the TOLD leaders

Guild hall they said wouldnt be out til awhile after the game launch so most likely next major expansion next year.
Already had a thread like this months ago but needed to be brought up with new things that needed to be added.