HoM Mystic Forge and new HoM gear!
Hi!
So I was running around Lions Arch with my dual wield Fiery Dragon Sword and Jormag’s Breath, and thought how EPIC it would be if there was a way for me to combine them into an awesome frostfire greatsword of some sort, and then I started thinking about how much the HoM gear could be used for unique upgrades. These could be with simple item combinations or a very complex and expensive such as using the Gift items and alot of ectos to make.
I believe that the HoM rewards are really nice, and I really loved that and it made me look forward to it. But after a time it became a little too familiar and I felt like trying new things and using new weapon/armor skins, but I also feel like it’s a waste to have so many cool stuff available for me through the HoM system and yet not use them because I’ve been seeing them for pretty much all of my leveling period.
If there was a way to upgrade gear from the HoM by combining it with other GW2 gear to make some very unique stuff, maybe some more GW1 armor sets, or maybe even some new sets! Things that people thought would really be nice in GW1 like what happened with the Fellblade, making it a Greatswords was a very nice move!
I would love to see such a thing implemented to the game, it would make the loyal GW1 players feel alot more rewarded. I know I would.
I’m not against this as I’d also like to see some upgrades to HoM gear but I’d prefer if they just added rewards for 30-50 points and gwamm too because the titles are worthless in GW2. The only HoM titles I use are Guild Warrior and Legend of the mists because people think they’re pvp titles. Very cool idea though.
Not a fan of the fellblade becoming a greatsword. It just doesn’t make sense to me as the appeal for the fellblade in GW1 came (for me at least) from the fact that it was a giant 1 handed sword. To make it worse the fellblade uses a 1h sword icon.
The rainbow jelly also is the exact same as the blue jelly.
I’m against upgrading the rewards from the HoM in any way. Those who played GW1 have been well-rewarded for their loyalty and I think it’s unfair to reward them further by allowing them access to additional items in the game, unless it’s equally easy for non-GW1 players to acquire the same items.
I agree that HoM items should have their own special icon (some do not yet). I also agree that some HoM items are fantastic (the FDS might be the best non-legendary sword in the game), while others are lackluster (I don’t find any of the other weapons worth the effort to transmute on a regular basis). Nevertheless, I’m extremely satisfied with the reward system — it did exactly what ANet said: provided cosmetic benefits without providing a gameplay advantage.
I think the armor should get a revamp in looks cause at the moment it doesnt look anything much better than early in-game armor….. It should look like some of the armor from Guild Wars 1…. FoW armor or 15k Elite armor from the end of games…… It was suposed to prove that you put some effort into the first game….. You can buy Primeval armor through the Gem store but only for heavy classes, I would like that look for my ranger not the poor design choice light or medium classes get…… Some of the weapons should have been moved across from GW’s 1 to GW’s 2…. IE: Icy Dragon Swords…. Eternal Weapons…. Celestial Weapons…. To be honest those who got the 30 points really got ripped off for about 80% of the items that should have looked UBER…. Those who got 50 points got really ripped off cause we were told that the GWAMM title would have a UNIQUE reward for completing it….. And all we got was the title here in GW’s 2…. Most places don’t say you get a reward or have been changed to say you don’t, but I remember tem saying we would…… I’m trying to find it and if I can I will add it in later…..
GWAMM has nothing to do with HoM; it’s a separate title that you can carry over without getting the tangible HoM rewards. And you can look at the GW1 wiki to see the history of articles — I don’t think you’ll find ANet ever promising that we would get something tangible for GWAMM.
While I agree that it would be nice to have gotten more attractive gear for HoM rewards, all of the armor and weapons look far better than starting gear or even a lot of other gear out there. My L80 characters are constantly using HoM skins instead of the defaults that come with a lot of exotic or rare gear. It might not look like top-notch items from GW1, but it’s free — and we can transmute as many times as we like. I think those are fantastic bonuses.
While some of the stuff you get in the HoM is really only better than starter gear in appearance, others are quite nice. The Flaming Dragon Sword, of course but also the Wayward Wand and the Gnarled Walking Stick which are both nice for a necro for example. The Fell blade has dark smoke coming off it and the Living Shortbow is especially suited for Sylvari. Not to mention the titles you can wear.
I don’t think tho that the HoM rewards should be increased in some manner. You got them for playing the old game. This is a new game with new rewards. What we got was enough and a lot more than the others players get.
I understand what you guys are saying, and I agree with you on most of the things you said.
Yes we got alot of nice things, and yes I understand how new players might see that this is enough and that there shouldn’t be any more items added.
But that’s my point, I’m not asking for new items to be added, I’m asking that for those who really put alot of time into GW1 (getting 30 points in HoM is easy, I’m talking about 30+) would like to see more than just titles, and I’m not asking Anet to just throw in some new set of gear. All I’m saying is that just as every other weapons that you get through the Mystic Forge, the ones that cost alot of time and gold to make, to have the option to get a few items that require HoM stuff to get.
They gave us the Fiery Dragon Sword for free, and made the Icy Dragon Sword cost about 100g to get (it’s called Jormag’s Breath in GW2). I’m just asking for a few combinations on the Mystic Forge that require mats from the HoM for more high-end and harder to get rewards.
I’m not asking for new items to be added, …. I would like to see more than just titles, …to have the option to get a few items that require HoM stuff to get.
I get that you aren’t asking for new items to be designed. And I get that you aren’t asking that they be entirely free of effort or materials. But it’s still a substantial increase in the benefits of the HoM and it’s so close to asking for new items, that it is hard to explain how it is different.
They gave us the Fiery Dragon Sword for free, and made the Icy Dragon Sword cost about 100g to get (it’s called Jormag’s Breath in GW2). I’m just asking for a few combinations on the Mystic Forge that require mats from the HoM for more high-end and harder to get rewards.
ANet stated long ago that after HoM/30, you wouldn’t get tangible items, only titles. Isn’t it being unfair to those that never played GW1 (for whatever reason)? Isn’t unfair to those who only went to HoM/30 because there weren’t any announced tangible bonuses?
I don’t see any reason why ANet should spend money (in the form of developer time) to provide us with added HoM benefits that will never be equally accessible to people who start playing GW2 today.
I get that you aren’t asking for new items to be designed. And I get that you aren’t asking that they be entirely free of effort or materials. But it’s still a substantial increase in the benefits of the HoM and it’s so close to asking for new items, that it is hard to explain how it is different.
ANet stated long ago that after HoM/30, you wouldn’t get tangible items, only titles. Isn’t it being unfair to those that never played GW1 (for whatever reason)? Isn’t unfair to those who only went to HoM/30 because there weren’t any announced tangible bonuses?
I don’t see any reason why ANet should spend money (in the form of developer time) to provide us with added HoM benefits that will never be equally accessible to people who start playing GW2 today.
What you’re saying is very subjective and most of the new players will agree with you. You believe that it’s unfair for Anet to spend their time on content for the GW1 players rather than using that time to add things that benefit the new players as well as the old ones, and don’t get me wrong, I fully agree with you. But the GW1 servers are still running, and Anet still has a full team working on GW1.
I’m not telling Anet how to use their resources, but there are many people that feel the same way I do about the HoM, so many people say that we already have more than enough items there and that we shouldn’t ask for more.
The whole point of that system was to have items from GW1 brought to GW2 as a reward for the players achievements, so why not add more of those to the game? Just bring me gear from GW1 just like every other piece in the HoM, that way there’s a reason why only people from GW1 have access to the items.
I think that this is a great idea, but it’s for Anet to decide if they want to give their time to this. And the new players shouldn’t disagree with this idea just because they have nothing to gain from it, they should think about how it would be when they get access to similar rewards in the future.
It doesn’t sound fair to the people who never played Guild Wars 1 or didn’t get past 30 points. ANet told us we would get certain skins and certain titles. To change the rules now would cause a kittenstorm of complaining from all the many people who would have no access to the new way of getting things. How would ANet possibly benefit from doing this?
1) a lot of people would be angry and complaining. People aren’t going to say, oh it’s ok. In 7 years or so I will get rewards like that when Guild Wars 3 comes out.
2) it wouldn’t cause people to buy Guild Wars 1, as it would take a long time to get the points starting from zero. Plus, they want people playing this game so their concordence (the number of people who log in daily) is high, not going off to play other games.
3) there would be people quitting because of favoritism and giving ANet bad press.
4) this wouldn’t effect sales from people who already have Guild Wars 1. Most of those people have either already bought the game or are not planning to.
So where is the advantage to ANet to do as you suggest? They want you to look forward into playing their new game. Not be constantly looking back at their old one.
For the record, I have 50/50 in the HoM and a GWAMM title and I feel this suggestion is unfair to the majority of players.
(edited by Astral Projections.7320)