Guild Wars 2

For me, the worst and most demoralizing part of playing 4+ alts is seeing the empty, undiscovered world map, even after putting so much time uncovering it all.

For most of us who got 100% map completion, we don’t start alts to complete once again those POIs, Vistas, WPs, SPs and Hearts. We play them for a new class change, WvW, sPVP, dungeon running and sometimes farming.

I’m simply suggesting we have EVERYTHING uncovered account-wide with all alts, for also ease of map completion if someone can’t stick to a single main.

Here’s how to make this work:

- Add an option to reset any Hearts daily so alts can gain experience via them if they want. You click the filled heart, select “reset” and complete it for exp and reward. There’d be no abusing this since high level hearts hearts only give at most 1s per, and takes a few min to complete (+ it would be daily only).

- Give the full amount of uncovered Skill points from map completion to a starting alt. This would improve the ease of starting out alts with full power, although you still need level 30 for elite and such. To prevent people from starting alts to buy SP items from Miyami, have those items locked until the alt is level 80.

- Waypoints. There’s no reason I can think of to hide uncovered WPs from alts. Low level alts can’t gather high level materials since tools are level restricted. They’d also be one shotted if they try to warp into Orr for example.

- Now for the Gift of Exploration problem. Very simple answer. Have Miyami sell them for SP, Karma or whatever ONLY after you’ve 100%. Honestly, not many people will even use both free gift anyway.

Hope this suggestion gets put in.
Love my alts, but hate this world completion thing the second time around.

I agree with this only if some conditions are set up.
- you can only unlock a zone for the whole account if that zone is completed with one character
- unlocking a new zone for an alt should be done only by entering that zone through the portal with that alt
- a pop up window asking what to unlock: Do you want this zone to be unlocked for this character? yes/no. If yes, a new question will pop up: choose what things you want to leave locked: vistas, PoIs, hearts. No selection means all will be unlocked

Once one zone is completely unlocked for an alt, there won’t be any resets to the unlocked version making it a player’s choice and not a default feature

These are good because at one point in your game play, you want to feel you are actually doing something with that character. Re-seting hearts daily will be a mess because people will not really do more but just a few

Ronah.2869:

I agree with this only if some conditions are set up.
- you can only unlock a zone for the whole account if that zone is completed with one character
- unlocking a new zone for an alt should be done only by entering that zone through the portal with that alt
- a pop up window asking what to unlock: Do you want this zone to be unlocked for this character? yes/no. If yes, a new question will pop up: choose what things you want to leave locked: vistas, PoIs, hearts. No selection means all will be unlocked

Once one zone is completely unlocked for an alt, there won’t be any resets to the unlocked version making it a player’s choice and not a default feature

These are good because at one point in your game play, you want to feel you are actually doing something with that character. Re-seting hearts daily will be a mess because people will not really do more but just a few

Why add these restrictions ?

Right now, I BARELY COMPLETE ANY HEARTS.
So your point makes no sense. I won’t do more because I’m forced.

The whole point is to have the map 100% for all alts if you’ve done it once.

One problem wit this.

You make Gift of Exploration that easy to obtain and you make legndary’s that easy to obtain.

Yes, Map completion should be account based. After 3 months of playing I still don’t have map completion. And, I have absolutely no desire to do a heart again…. and again… and again…. and again….. I mean seriously, it’s still ME behind the screen. Why do I have to do it again? It really wasn’t fun the first time!!!! It’s a freaking chore and a bore….. Am I right or what???

We can do PvE events, crafting, and WvW to level up. The map should be open to us, THE PLAYER/Payer, and not bound to a toon. It’s been a ridiculous notion to begin with.

Kaimick… I see your point. I’ve given up on ever going after Legendaries. Way to expensive. Again, after 3 moths of 5 hours a day, I don’t even have full exotics on a single toon. Worrying about Legendaries on 5+ is not even conceivable to me.

For me, I can already tell my interest is waning. Ridiculous RNG, precursor drops, and inflation of pricing on the TP have all made my interest go down hill. I’m sticking it out to finish one toon and do the winter event. Come Jan 1, I can’t imagine playing as much anymore. Anet would have to something radical to keep interest going. Getting rid of Map completion, so it’s not a grind x5 would be a good start.

As an explorer type player I have no problem with exploring and 100%ing areas. In actual fact I like the idea of being able to reset an area so that it’s completely undiscovered, discovering it again and getting the same reward. Not because it ‘s supier fun, but because the reward for completing a an area is nice, espcially the higher levels where you get a bunch of crafting materials, some money and a couple of exotic/rare weapons.
You put the same amount of time into doing this, as you do doing a dungeon for a similar reward so I don’t see why it shouldn’t be replayable for level 80s.

I do agree with you on the most part, however, the problem with this is that you get XP for uncovering areas within the zones and such. Chaning the timeframe of getting XP with respect to the players level will not help the gameplay.

KyleQuest.4639:

Kaimick… I see your point. I’ve given up on ever going after Legendaries. Way to expensive. Again, after 3 moths of 5 hours a day, I don’t even have full exotics on a single toon. Worrying about Legendaries on 5+ is not even conceivable to me.

For me, I can already tell my interest is waning. Ridiculous RNG, precursor drops, and inflation of pricing on the TP have all made my interest go down hill. I’m sticking it out to finish one toon and do the winter event. Come Jan 1, I can’t imagine playing as much anymore. Anet would have to something radical to keep interest going. Getting rid of Map completion, so it’s not a grind x5 would be a good start.

Being honest I didn’t read everything in your post some what skimmed through it.

After 3 to 5 months no heart completion is not the games fault I completed all PvE zones in about 3 weeks.

Not having a full set of exotics is not the games fault… you just play at a slower pace then others.

With that said your play style is not a bad thing, just understand most people can complete all the PvE places on a average of about 3 weeks to a month. The Average player can also gain a full set of exotics in roughly about a week in a half.

theMrCravens.7683:

Why add these restrictions ?
The whole point is to have the map 100% for all alts if you’ve done it once.

I DON"T want to have 100% map completion for alts. It will; take all the fun from playing this game. I think my idea isn’t hurting yours, just put you to actually do something like going from one zone to another to unlock it – but yours is hurting my play-style

I personally would love to see map completion something for each character personally. Meaning each alt still has to go to each of the POIs, Vistas, etc. to get experience. Revealing the map however should be account wide. Trying to uncover the map on alts just to see where you’re going or to make it less of a blotchy eyesore is busy work.

I think we’re not labeling “Map Completion” the same. I’m referring to having to reveal the map again and again. I hate this immensely. To get Map Completion even once, I still have hearts to finish in the Blazeridge Mountains. Which I avoid like the plague for it’s shear ugliness, by my taste I know. Doing that for 5 characters should be a choice. If I cleared the map once, WP’s and the map should stay revealed, no? Does this take away or inhibit anyone from doing hearts or whatever else in a zone they wish?

Sorry, I have to disagree, as I do not believe a brand new solo player can get to lv 80 and in full exotics in the first 1.5 weeks. Certainly not by only playing PvE and story, as I have. The only conceivable way I could imagine doing so would be to get to 40 and then grind AC or CM. For me, when I was a new player to even know that, I’d have to have been helped or have completed a character already. Maybe I’m just unlucky because I’ve never received, even with some magic find, a good drop. Never a precursor, white, black, or celestial dye, or any useful exotics or rares. The only thing I’ve received from loot is an exotic Harpoon Gun. But, it’s a magic find one and needs replacing too. Not even a ring yet after daily grinds in FotM. So, maybe I’m just not as lucky in this game as others.

For my experience, through story and PvE, I 80’d and crafted my first exotic gear in about 5 weeks. It was mid October as I recall. Still haven’t done every weapon and runes. And, I do spend many hours in WvW which eats resources like crazy. As I pitch in daily for upgrading caps and what not.

Anyway, revealing the map again for me is such an annoyance. To do it again and again, is even more dreadful….