Guild Wars 2

Hi, is possible to add an elixir/potion in the item shop for change class or race?

I’ve 2 character at 80 (a thief + guardian), i’m happy with thief but not impressed by guardian (i dislike it), instead of delete it and regrind another char from 1 to 80 (a true pain since there is no people in pve anymore and do events is hard and boring alone) i think is much better a race/class change.
I’m ok if it cost 1000+ gems but please consider to do it, the idea of regrind another char make me feel bad and discouraged.

Thanks.

Miporin.3529:

(a true pain since there is no people in pve anymore and do events is hard and boring alone)

That’s completely false. Please don’t over-exaggerate.

I disagree with the race and class change. If you didn’t figure out by level 20 that you didn’t like your choice, then the fault is your own. The equipment issues are also a major problem and I feel that there are much more things that need to be fixed and added instead of this. Also, the whole point of playing the game and leveling is learning your class as you level up. How can you possibly do that if you’re automatically leveled to 80?

Jrunyon.3012:

Miporin.3529:

(a true pain since there is no people in pve anymore and do events is hard and boring alone)

That’s completely false. Please don’t over-exaggerate.

Also I disagree with the race and class change. If you didn’t figure out by level 20 that you didn’t like your choice, then the fault is your own. The equipment issues are also a major problem and I feel that there are much more things that need to be fixed and added instead of this.

I’m not exagerating, is true, tryed myself (Eu blacktide server).

Also i don’t get why you care since is a cash shop item and only a easy change, this mean more money for Anet.
There are people who have used all slots and have no more space for more race/class combinations. This will help a lot of people, not only people who love grind.
Since Gw2 is a b2p game model there is no need to timesink but moneysink.

Second, i don’t need 80 levels to learn play a class, there is the mist for this, 30 minutes there are enought. Your argouments are all invalid.

Please Anet consider it.

I care because there’s already an overwhelming amount of people in WvW who don’t know how to play their class, adding this in would make it 10x worse.

You didn’t address the equipment issues either. It’s a lot more then just a simple cash shop item.

Jrunyon.3012:

I care because there’s already an overwhelming amount of people in WvW who don’t know how to play their class, adding this in would make it 10x worse.

You didn’t address the equipment issues either. It’s a lot more then just a simple cash shop item.

You care and QQ for an non issue, your argoument has nothing to do with class/race change and make zero sense. If people play bad their class is their fault and their choice, 80 levels of redundant pve change nothing, tell them to train in the mist or sPvP if you want better players for WvW.

Also as i explained above, this help people with all char slots busy or people already maxed that leave the game bored.

More money for Anet mean more resources for new content instead of stupid gear progression, so is a welcome matter.

What do people do about the gear/cultural armor they already have that a different class cant use?

Its plain to see you don’t want to hear anything that goes against your idea so I’m just going to stop posting now. If you want to level really quick, use crafting. I see no reason for this to be implemented and this would cheapen the whole leveling and alt experience.

I have never heard of an MMORPG that allows this and I have no inclination to see it happen here, regardless of Anet’s new and revolutionary take on things.

Leveling is already astoundingly easy. Suck it up and reroll.

Miporin.3529:

There are people who have used all slots and have no more space for more race/class combinations.

Buy more character slots. DUH.

Don’t have the money? Buy gems with gold. DUH.

Using all your slots is not a reason to make a class/race change. It’s a reason to buy more slots.

Second, i don’t need 80 levels to learn play a class, there is the mist for this, 30 minutes there are enought.

30 minutes to learn a class? You’re seriously mocking of how complex the professions are?

It takes hours of practice to properly use a single profession correctly.

And if you can really do that, why did you not realize you dislike your class?

It’s your own fault that you wasted your time.
In your case, GW2 isn’t the time sink here, your poor judgment is.

This will help a lot of people, not only people who love grind.
Since Gw2 is a b2p game model there is no need to timesink but moneysink.

These two sentences don’t even make any sense.

Your arguments are the ones that are invalid. And if you don’t smarten up and see this from other players’ views, ANet will just laugh at your post.

I’m just curious, but why are people against these optional things? I’m not bothered about them myself, but I have no objection to there being the option for those that are.

I do not believe this would impact on the number of bad players, if anything it could potentially improve it slightly, as it would give players who hate making alts a chance to try a different profession, that they might get on with better. But generally speaking, players are bad because they have not found a build/play style that suits them or they just aren’t that good at PvP. Another thing to note, is that those players you think are not very good, could very well be low level players. Due to the scaling system in WvW, any level of player can join in, which is probably why you get a lot of characters that do not perform so well.

I may not want this option myself, but I do not see it being a problem adding it, so you have my vote, Miporin. Not everyone likes making alts.

As to the difficulty of it being added, I do not think it would be an easy task. There is the armour to consider for the profession and personal story for the race, as DreamOfACure mentions. But that doesn’t mean it would be impossible. And while I agree with Jrunyon, that there are things that really need to be fixed first, there is no harm in suggesting things that can be added later on down the road.

With regards to learning a profession, some people pick up professions really quickly, especially if that profession fits their play style. It took me 5 minutes in beta to know the thief would be my main, though I also liked the guardian so there was some conflict. I ended up making both in the end and then some. But my point is, people learn things at different paces, so to assume everyone needs to level up 80 levels to be good is not very accurate. A few minutes in the mists with a new character would be enough for some, and if they only want one character, then having this option would be good.

If you don’t like it, then don’t buy it. Simple. I cannot see it hurting the game at all.

Edit – It may take hours to be good with a profession, but I do not believe it would take everyone 80 levels.

DreamOfACure.4382:

Buy more character slots. DUH.

Slots are limited even if you buy them.

Don’t have the money? Buy gems with gold. DUH.

Money is not an issue, the issue is, instead of delete a class i don’t like i prefer switch to another one without re-grind a month from 1 to 80. i’m a casual player and i don’t take mmorpg like a second job. At beginning was fast because there were lots of people around, now pve is stagnating and people is bored to do pve.
Nothing wrong with it since you pay for this service and help Anet in developing the game.
Not all people like to spent months over months to do the same thing over and over again, is boring.

30 minutes to learn a class? You’re seriously mocking of how complex the professions are?

If you haven’t down syndrome then yes, training a bit on the mist and sPvP is enought to understand this class. If you lack skills and you need more time fine but in my case 80 levels of grind is kitten and boring. I prefectly understand already all the mechanics of this game.

It takes hours of practice to properly use a single profession correctly.

Mist and sPvP, enought to practice.

And if you can really do that, why did you not realize you dislike your class?

I’m playing since start, dislike Guardian but i like Thief, i want Warrior now instead of Guardian because is more fun to play.

It’s your own fault that you wasted your time.
In your case, GW2 isn’t the time sink here, your poor judgment is.

Indeed, but i will pay for this switch, i don’t see the issue. You lose and you gain nothing, is just a service, the more the better.

Your arguments are the ones that are invalid. And if you don’t smarten up and see this from other players’ views, ANet will just laugh at your post.

Don’t care, is a suggestion, you are only trolling over an non issue just because you have nothing better to do. My suggestion is valid and also provide more momeny to Anet. Already population is declined since launch and starter zones are empty. Allow class change will only bring more people who previous leaved back.
Is something that will add more content, and is not a gamebreaking feature.

ps: Just a tip, what people do with their momey and time is not your business, since this service don’t limit your freedom at all is fine.

I’d say yes to race change, but no to class change. That would get people to choose fastest leveling class and then turn it into what they want, although Race is preference with a story attached, though if its possible to do a switch, It wouldn’t be pay to win type scenario.

If you do not enjoy the class though, you have your thief and it gives you something to do while playing the game to make the next one. Though honestly nothings wrong with a guardian or any class for that matter to be so game breaking to not be enjoyable, I’d think somewhere along the line to 80 you would think your bored of this and finish a different one.

@Jrunyon, seriously? You think because there are people that don’t know how to play their class then by letting them change their class to one they might be much better at is going to mean more people not knowing how to play their class? I seriously fail to see ANY logic behind that post. If a person doesn’t know how to play their class and they get a class change only 2 possible things can happen. A, that player is still bad at his class which results in the same number of bad players. Or B, that player changes to a class his good at and therefore reduces the number of bad players. As for not knowing other games that do it, simple the MMO that EVERYONE has heard about. World Of Warcraft. Race Change, Class Change, Gender Change, Name Change, Faction Change, Server change. They do it all, so yes other MMO’s do allow race,gender,class changes.

As for DreamOfACure, your posts just make me laugh. I have a warrior using T3 with 400 crafting, titles and everything. If i wanted to then change my warrior to a guardian I’d be much more likely to do it through a class change through the cashshop then to as you say “Remake a character or buy an extra character slot as i already have 6 characters”.
Btw yes, within 30 mins of Pvp,hotm you can get the basicas from a profession and from that you can tell if you like that play style or not. I created a mesmer alt, went to hotm, messed about and bit and though you know what, this class really isn’t for me. Or is that a bad choice because i didn’t spend hours playing it to know the basicas to the class?

But onto the topic at hand. I think profession changes would be okay and i don’t think it’d be too hard for anet to do. Trade whatever armor the character has for the same armor just the medium or light armor. So if you have T3 heavy, they can exchange that for T3 light armor if you go a light armor class.

As for race changes not so much of a good idea. The whole story is set around your race and the choices you picked at the start of the game, so unless Anet let you rechoose those choices it wouldn’t be done. Furthermore you’d have to have completed the story missions for it to not have an affect on your gameplay. I don’t think race changes will ever happen becasue there is so much tied to your characters race, but by all means a class change would be great.

Helamintur.8641:

Though honestly nothings wrong with a guardian or any class for that matter to be so game breaking to not be enjoyable, I’d think somewhere along the line to 80 you would think your bored of this and finish a different one.

Yes, i’m bored of my guardian and i wont waste another month to leveling up from 1 to 80 another character. I want a Warrior instead of Guardian.

A class change is an extra service, something you can buy on item shop for people who have already a capped character and dislike to waste time to leveling another character. Is a personal choice.

I don’t see the issue here and nothing wrong about it, will be a good goldsink (i proposed a 1000 gem cost service to start off).

For race i agree with personal story issue and cultural armour issue so this idea can be discared, but class change is fine and should be considered a good addition.

Miporin.3529:

a true pain since there is no people in pve anymore and do events is hard and boring alone

This isn’t exactly true, but what do you think will happen if people can just change profession from a cash shop item.

Also, you keep using the word ‘grind’. Levelling a character isn’t ‘grinding’. It’s called ‘playing the game’. Casually playing, I reached 80 in 2 weeks. That’s hardly a long time, unless you’re a ‘I want it now’ type of person.

I disagree with the profession change, but race change? Fair enough.

Kyzen.7452:

Profession change is out of the question but race change is still an option

I don’t understand, why is the profession change out of the question but race change is OK? Out of the two I would have thought the race would be the hardest to implement.

At the end of the day, so long as someone buying a profession changer is not effecting anyone else’s game, which I cannot see it doing, what difference does it make to you? People are saying they should not add it, but not really giving a decent argument against it.

If armour is a problem, then leave it as it is. If you change your profession, all armour (if not wearable by your new profession) is unequipped and you need to buy new gear. I’m sure many who would like this option would rather that then have to go through the WHOLE process again. Having to buy new armour is much better than having to level up as well.

As to race change, either make it so that you can only change it after you finish your personal story, or better still reset your personal story back to the beginning. With the later option, all they would need to do is stop story quests from giving rewards, until you reach an equivelant level of progression that you had reached with your previous race.

There are always ways to implement these things, so long as it doesn’t impact negatively on any other aspect of the game, which I cannot see it would, I don’t see any problem with providing players with extra options.

Kyzen.7452:

lol I edited my post 32 mins you made yours 24mins ago I came to terms with my self and saw nothing wrong with profession change because I am up for both

Fair enough. That’s the risk that comes with posting long replies I guess.

TheDaiBish.9735:

This isn’t exactly true, but what do you think will happen if people can just change profession from a cash shop item.

Is only a class change, simply instead of a guardian you have a warrior now, where is the issue here? Is just a service for people that don’t like a certain class and avoid to GRIND MONTHS again from scratch. Yes i’m casual and from 1 to 80 is hard, not so easy, expecially now with low people online (is a fact stop deny it).

Also, you keep using the word ‘grind’. Levelling a character isn’t ‘grinding’. It’s called ‘playing the game’. Casually playing, I reached 80 in 2 weeks. That’s hardly a long time, unless you’re a ‘I want it now’ type of person.

Is still grind, i’ve already do the same route 2 times with 2 characters, i wont do it anymore, i’m tyred and bored of pve content, is boring, it lacks fun, is redundant and lot of events are still bugged.
I prefer to pay with gems and swap class, is not a gamebreaking and not an advantage over other players.

I disagree with the profession change, but race change? Fair enough.

I prefer mainly class change overall, for the motivations listed above, race is just a plus.

Well I think there should be a class-change option. I support this. (and besides arenanet would make more money.)

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If you haven’t down syndrome then yes, training a bit on the mist and sPvP is enought to understand this class. If you lack skills and you need more time fine but in my case 80 levels of grind is kitten and boring. I prefectly understand already all the mechanics of this game.

What an insult. Next time try using something isn’t offensive. Down Syndrome ain’t funny.

In regards to the post, no, no, annnddd no. You pick a race and a class, and that’s it. Don’t like the character? Delete it and make another. If you bother to make something you don’t like later on, that’s your fault and you’ll just have to deal with it.

xCrusadentx.2784:

If you bother to make something you don’t like later on, that’s your fault and you’ll just have to deal with it.

Or you can give us a favor, and stop care about what other people do because is not your kitten business, if they want to pay to change a class they should have the right to do so since no one interfere with your game experience. Ok? Thanks.

Miporin.3529:

TheDaiBish.9735:

This isn’t exactly true, but what do you think will happen if people can just change profession from a cash shop item.

Is only a class change, simply instead of a guardian you have a warrior now, where is the issue here? Is just a service for people that don’t like a certain class and avoid to GRIND MONTHS again from scratch. Yes i’m casual and from 1 to 80 is hard, not so easy, especially now with low people online (is a fact stop deny it).

If you allow people to just swap and change classes at 80, what happens to earlier PvE content? They become dead (more dead than they are now). Instead, suggestions to revitalise earlier PvE content are more constructive.

As for being a casual, when I got my first 80, I played about 5 hours a week. I am also a casual player. I have even less time now, and I’ve just finished my 5th level 80. Just saying.

Miporin.3529:

Also, you keep using the word ‘grind’. Levelling a character isn’t ‘grinding’. It’s called ‘playing the game’. Casually playing, I reached 80 in 2 weeks. That’s hardly a long time, unless you’re a ‘I want it now’ type of person.

Is still grind, i’ve already do the same route 2 times with 2 characters, i wont do it anymore, i’m tired and bored of pve content, is boring, it lacks fun, is redundant and lot of events are still bugged.

I prefer to pay with gems and swap class, is not a game-breaking and not an advantage over other players.

Here’s the thing: You don’t need to rush. I’ve never understood the ‘I got to get to 80 as fast as possible’ mentality. Do a little bit at a time.

You’ve already done the same route? Why not do different routes? There’s more than one level appropriate are in the game (with the exception of one or two brackets).

You find the PvE content boring? Why not go level to 80 in WvW? Why not use any spare mats to craft and help you along the way?

Miporin.3529:

xCrusadentx.2784:

If you bother to make something you don’t like later on, that’s your fault and you’ll just have to deal with it.

Or you can give us a favor, and stop care about what other people do because is not your kitten business, if they want to pay to change a class they should have the right to do so since no one interfere with your game experience. Ok? Thanks.

Actually, being able to insta-swap classes to 80 does affect others gameplay experience, because it further reduces population in lower level zones. Just saying.

The only game I can think of that implement this sort of thing are Final Fantasy, with their Job system. Even in GW1, if you wanted a Primary Attribute, you had to re-roll.

TheDaiBish.9735:

Miporin.3529:

TheDaiBish.9735:

This isn’t exactly true, but what do you think will happen if people can just change profession from a cash shop item.

Is only a class change, simply instead of a guardian you have a warrior now, where is the issue here? Is just a service for people that don’t like a certain class and avoid to GRIND MONTHS again from scratch. Yes i’m casual and from 1 to 80 is hard, not so easy, especially now with low people online (is a fact stop deny it).

If you allow people to just swap and change classes at 80, what happens to earlier PvE content? They become dead (more dead than they are now). Instead, suggestions to revitalise earlier PvE content are more constructive.

As for being a casual, when I got my first 80, I played about 5 hours a week. I am also a casual player. I have even less time now, and I’ve just finished my 5th level 80. Just saying.

Miporin.3529:

Also, you keep using the word ‘grind’. Levelling a character isn’t ‘grinding’. It’s called ‘playing the game’. Casually playing, I reached 80 in 2 weeks. That’s hardly a long time, unless you’re a ‘I want it now’ type of person.

Is still grind, i’ve already do the same route 2 times with 2 characters, i wont do it anymore, i’m tired and bored of pve content, is boring, it lacks fun, is redundant and lot of events are still bugged.

I prefer to pay with gems and swap class, is not a game-breaking and not an advantage over other players.

Here’s the thing: You don’t need to rush. I’ve never understood the ‘I got to get to 80 as fast as possible’ mentality. Do a little bit at a time.

You’ve already done the same route? Why not do different routes? There’s more than one level appropriate are in the game (with the exception of one or two brackets).

You find the PvE content boring? Why not go level to 80 in WvW? Why not use any spare mats to craft and help you along the way?

Miporin.3529:

xCrusadentx.2784:

If you bother to make something you don’t like later on, that’s your fault and you’ll just have to deal with it.

Or you can give us a favor, and stop care about what other people do because is not your kitten business, if they want to pay to change a class they should have the right to do so since no one interfere with your game experience. Ok? Thanks.

Actually, being able to insta-swap classes to 80 does affect others gameplay experience, because it further reduces population in lower level zones. Just saying.

The only game I can think of that implement this sort of thing are Final Fantasy, with their Job system. Even in GW1, if you wanted a Primary Attribute, you had to re-roll.

Star wars galaxies (after NGE even) had a “profession councilor” that you could actually go and pay to change professions.. with ingame currency, you didn’t have to pay IRL cash.