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Posted by: FuriousPop.2789

FuriousPop.2789

not sure if there is already a topic like this – couldn’t find one.

OK so we all know how much is needed and how to farm it and the never ending countless hours we have to put in.

however i would like to ask just a simple thing,

Can you make karma deposited/withdraw from personal bank? so that way i can share it between my own characters on my one account!?

I don’t want it tradeable on the TP – thats just going to cause Chaos. I just want to be able to share it between my own characters.

Reason i ask is because most items bought by karma are soulbound on acquire forcing me to farm karma yet again for my next character….

However i feel i can farm alot better on a specific class/geared correctly that is not my main. – and no i dont want to play that specific class all the time but would like to spread out the wealth and time/effort put into 1 character across all of them which can already be done via gold/gems but sadly not karma.

Anyone, For or Against?

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Posted by: Astral Projections.7320

Astral Projections.7320

This is a good idea. The system they have now penalizes people who play alts. I am leveling one of each profession and the karma is being spread amongst each one as I am leveling it to 80. The jugs of liquid karma help, but I am reluctant to use them on any one toon unless I am definitely going to buy something with karma on that one. So right now they are accumulating in my bank. It would make more sense to pool the incoming karma, as it is a type of currency.

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Posted by: Shadowbane.7109

Shadowbane.7109

trading karma doesnt make sense. The npcs reward individual characters for their services. You cant make them be thanksful to someone who they never saw.

Evil is evil. Lesser, greater, middling…makes no difference.
The degree is arbitrary. The definition’s blurred.
If I’m to choose between one evil and another, I’d rather not choose at all.

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Posted by: Dondarrion.2748

Dondarrion.2748

A jug of liquid karma gives 6750 under the 2 boosts people generally use, so you can still play your alts towards dailies/monthlies and give those to your main – all the while earning karma as you level your alt.
Since it’s soulbound – and should remain that way since it’s character-based “karma” – it doesn’t make sense to deposit in bank as only one char will ever withdraw it again. And as you can derive from this, I’m not supporting karma becoming account-bound.

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Posted by: tigirius.9014

tigirius.9014

I actually love this idea as an altaholic I tend to have more then most, why can’t i combine my karma resource like I do my gold? It would be nice to be able to easily gear up my alts without the need to spend large sums of gold in the already overpriced TP.

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Posted by: Blackwolfe.5649

Blackwolfe.5649

Simply having karma and gold accountwide would do wonders.

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Posted by: CapN Biku.6024

CapN Biku.6024

This is stupid. It’s so easy to get karma anyway. Do the daily and you get 4500 karma, do the monthly and you get 45000 karma. If you do 10 events every day, plus your daily, you should get 6000-8000 karma per day. if you do 20, then that will be 8000-10 000. You will have enough karma for whatever you want to do in no time

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Posted by: Jovel.5706

Jovel.5706

Karma is already account-wide, it’s the jugs you get from doing daily achievements.

Making ALL karma account-wide wouldn’t make sense because your level 4 necromancer didn’t earn karma from doing events at Frostgorge Sound. The NPC’s at Frostgorge don’t know who your level 4 necromancer is so the karma should only be spendable on the character who is known by them and helped around the area.

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Posted by: maddoctor.2738

maddoctor.2738

Your level 80 character earns much more karma than your level 1 character, so using your level 80 to have your level 1 always dressed with max karma gear, without playing with that character, doesn’t sound very appropriate.

As for level 80 items, like the karma vendors in Orr, do the daily and monthly achievements and share the potions with your other characters. The majority of your karma can come from those, they reward a lot of karma. A few achievements later you can have your armor.

Anything even more expensive, like the Obsidian Shards for a Legendary is account bound anyway so you can get those with multiple characters.

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Posted by: Astral Projections.7320

Astral Projections.7320

@maddoctor
You can dress your level 1 toon up with the look of max karma gear right now. Buy it with a level 80 toon, break the soulbinding so it’s account bound and let your level one pick it up and equip it. So that objection doesn’t stand.

@Shadowbane
I am not impressed by the argument that the karma is a reward by NPCs to my character. It’s me that is getting the reward. My character doesn’t play him/her self. This argument may be meaningful to people who roleplay. Not so much if you don’t. If its a big deal to role players, maybe it can be optional but I don’t see how the arguments against it are otherwise meaningful.

Tl:dr
The problem with non pooled karma is for people who run multiple toons. I would like the karma to be account bound as I don’t truly have a main. Right now I am leveling one of each profession. After I get them all to 80 I may have a main or, more likely, I will use whichever is best for what I want to do that day. People like me who are leveling multiple toons are penalized by having the karma we earn spread across each one. Pooling karma encourages people to try different professions.

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Posted by: Hamfast.8719

Hamfast.8719

I also have multiple toons; one for each profession. Karma is absolutely NOT a problem for me. I do my daily achievements in about an hour’s time, and have more jugs of liquid Karma than I know what to do with at the moment. (I don’t even do the monthlies because of the PvP / WvW requirements). That Karma is usable by any of my toons. Not to mention the tons they each have personally from their individual accomplishments.

Karma is awarded to your individual characters for helping out other people. NOT to you. It makes perfect sense for an “Online Role Playing Game” whether you are impressed or not. Do more Heart Quests and do your Daily Achievements.

Build a man a fire, and he’ll be warm all day.
Set a man on fire, and he’ll be warm the rest of his life.
– Unknown Fire Elementalist

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Posted by: maddoctor.2738

maddoctor.2738

@maddoctor
You can dress your level 1 toon up with the look of max karma gear right now. Buy it with a level 80 toon, break the soulbinding so it’s account bound and let your level one pick it up and equip it. So that objection doesn’t stand.

It’s not only the looks, it’s the stats too, if they made karma account bound you could equip your lower levels always with the best karma gear.

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Posted by: Blueshield.6291

Blueshield.6291

It’s not only the looks, it’s the stats too, if they made karma account bound you could equip your lower levels always with the best karma gear.

Except for the level restriction. The best karma weapons/armor are level 80 weapons/armor, so could only be used by a level 80. In the (previously proposed) example of transmutation to break the soulbinding, you’d be transmuting worse stats onto the gear. Even if a low-level character had access to account-bound karma, he wouldn’t be able to use anything inappropriate. Low-level (below 40) karma gear is only obtainable from heart vendors anyway, so that player would have already earned some karma in the completion of hearts/events in the area.

That said, I don’t think the suggestion at large is necessary. As other players have pointed out, jugs of karma are already account-bound rather than soulbound. I’m an altoholic myself, and I keep a stockpile of karma jugs in my bank. I only use them when I need them for a specific purpose. Non-jug karma earnings are lesser and, as others have indicated, character-bound for a reason.

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Posted by: CapN Biku.6024

CapN Biku.6024

Except for the level restriction. The best karma weapons/armor are level 80

They obviously meant the best karma gear for the characters level, not the best karma gear in the game.
If you have your level 80 make all the karma, since they can make much more than a level 1 character, you can then give all the karma to your level one and buy all the karma gear you come across without actually having to work as hard for it.

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Posted by: spiritfightz.6951

spiritfightz.6951

or they can make all karma item to be account bound instead of soul bound, which means able to share with alt character.

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Posted by: maddoctor.2738

maddoctor.2738

or they can make all karma item to be account bound instead of soul bound, which means able to share with alt character.

That’s exactly why they aren’t doing it… your alt needs to earn that gear instead of getting it from another character.

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Posted by: CapN Biku.6024

CapN Biku.6024

or they can make all karma item to be account bound instead of soul bound, which means able to share with alt character.

That is also a solution since karma items seem pretty useless once you level past them. But that would bring the same problem as making karma accountwide, getting karma gear wouldn’t be a challenge, getting karma gear wouldn’t be a reward for helping out a lot of people since you could get them before you even found the merchant.

Just leave it like it is now and if you feel karma gear is useless after leveling past it then do what the rest of us do, save them until you have enough and then forge them and hope for something nice.

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Posted by: Hamfast.8719

Hamfast.8719

If it’s the STATS from Karma gear that you want, you have to be high enough level to use it anyway. Your favorite high-level farmer can’t help your low level characters. If it’s the LOOK that you like, you can always transmute. I see no issue here.

You have a “main” that you like to farm Karma with, which is fine. But keep in mind that the Daily Achievements can be done by ANY level character in about an hour in ANY area (high or low level) to get you 4500 easy account-bound points. Your lower level guys can do that and become higher level guys pretty painlessly.

“Karma” means (more or less) being rewarded for doing good deeds. (You get what you give. Treat others as you would have them treat you, etc.) That is why “Karma Points” only go to the good-deed-doer and not your whole account. If they changed the name to “Reward Points” or something else, THEN maybe they could make ’em account-bound. But I think it is fine as-is.

Build a man a fire, and he’ll be warm all day.
Set a man on fire, and he’ll be warm the rest of his life.
– Unknown Fire Elementalist

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Posted by: Caedmon.6798

Caedmon.6798

not sure if there is already a topic like this – couldn’t find one.

OK so we all know how much is needed and how to farm it and the never ending countless hours we have to put in.

however i would like to ask just a simple thing,

Can you make karma deposited/withdraw from personal bank? so that way i can share it between my own characters on my one account!?

I don’t want it tradeable on the TP – thats just going to cause Chaos. I just want to be able to share it between my own characters.

Reason i ask is because most items bought by karma are soulbound on acquire forcing me to farm karma yet again for my next character….

However i feel i can farm alot better on a specific class/geared correctly that is not my main. – and no i dont want to play that specific class all the time but would like to spread out the wealth and time/effort put into 1 character across all of them which can already be done via gold/gems but sadly not karma.

Anyone, For or Against?

Well,i dont know,you also have to farm XP for your char yet again, and gear,yet again,do all quest yet again,so i dont know why you should have free karma though.Doesnt make sense when you have to gain everything again,but karma will be free for the taking.

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Posted by: Cushnahan.7058

Cushnahan.7058

/nosupport

What Shadowbane said.