Guild Wars 2

Not sure if this has been suggested but i’ll post anyway. Tire of seeing people getting the grief in dungeon and time wasted. Having been a victim myself (not recently) but never the griefer. Here are a few suggestions to anet:

1. Kicking option become unavailable after a certain progression in the dungeon has happen. Example the team is half way through the dungeon or on 3rd fractal round.

2. Remove kicking entirely in dungeon run.

3. If a individual is kicked. The team is not allowed to invite anyone else making the team live with the decision and try to beat the dungeon with 1 person short.

4. Kicking require vote of all 4 members instead of 2.

If anyone got any other viable suggestion lets hear it.

1. no, will stop nothing, they’d just kick at end of 2nd instead of start of 3rd or whatever magically cutoff you made.

2. no, some people are dead weight and need to be kicked.

3. no, so someone goes afk and doesn’t come back so you should all suffer?

4. yes, this seems fair and the kick box should be a big in your face vote like whether to continue in fractals so no stealthy lets kick this guy before they even notice whats going on.

1. True the kick still happen but its half of the time wasted as opposed to entire time when reached last boss.

2. Gw1 used this system and it worked very well

3. Not entirely true. Had a run where one individual said they need to afk for 5 min due to emergency and 1 other individual decided to vote kick over 5 min. And no the rest of us refused to 2nd the vote.

And yes i do agree on a more prominent prompt to notify other player of such action.

The threshold of 2 is way too little if we ever do get a real LFG system, as red posts have recently indicated is coming

I can agree with 4

Tifa Lockheart Ex.9614:

Not sure if this has been suggested but i’ll post anyway. Tire of seeing people getting the grief in dungeon and time wasted. Having been a victim myself (not recently) but never the griefer. Here are a few suggestions to anet:

1. Kicking option become unavailable after a certain progression in the dungeon has happen. Example the team is half way through the dungeon or on 3rd fractal round.

2. Remove kicking entirely in dungeon run.

3. If a individual is kicked. The team is not allowed to invite anyone else making the team live with the decision and try to beat the dungeon with 1 person short.

4. Kicking require vote of all 4 members instead of 2.

If anyone got any other viable suggestion lets hear it.

The only valid point in your post is number 4 to which i agree.

Kicking is there for a reason. If a player goes afk or gets disconnected and doesnt come back, why should the whole party be punished? Wait for a certain amount of time, if he doesnt come back, kick him and invite someone else. Or if the player is trolling the whole group, pulling random groups or dying in purpose, why should we have to put up with his kitten? Kick and invite someone else.

The current system offers the perfect balance in my opinion. The few griefers that do exist do not justify making kicking harder for everybody else. The proposed changes would cause more issues than they would solve.

You can simply try to avoid bad parties, and there are quite a few ways to do that.

It’s better now, he is right, some people are dead weight.

I agree the 2 vote kick is harsh but at the same time, making it require 4 to kick would invite more grifers that do it for amusement. What happens if 2 people join a dungeon and just drag you down ( not preformance wise as in they are not using x gear ) but rather pulling extra mobs, intentionally making it harder for the group just to do it. Now you can’t kick them.

As it stands now, harsh as it is, it really makes people on a general basis not intentionally grief a group. Does it still happen yes, but I could only imagine if it was changed to 4 to kick. Now I am not saying you were justly kicked and it does suck, especially if your trying to learn a dungeon. Best thing you can do whne using the LFG site is look for the groups that don’t say “Speed runs” “Experinced players only” “Need X gear”, tell the group your new to the dunegon, or watch videos of the dungeon on youtube, or use the wiki. Any knowledge of the dungeon even if it is only minimal, should be enough to Make it look like you know what your doing with out hindering the group.