Guild Wars 2

I play on a crap server where people are more concerned about farming gold than doing WvW.

To craft Sunrise, I need all of the required gameplay items such as the Gift of Battle, Gifts of Exploration and various karma rewards, but I also need around 900 gold.

900 Gold is something that is unattainable for me, because I spend the majority of my time doing WvW to make my server better. A lot of money is spent on repairs or siege equipment so that my garbage server has somewhat of a chance in battles.

I have over 1500 Badges of Honor in total, over 1,000,000 karma and about 25 unused karma jugs, the gift of exploration, over 400 skill points etc. These are heavy achievements that very few people, even those with legendaries, have.

What I don’t have is the precursor, the icy runestones and the huge amounts of ectos and lodestones I need to finish Sunrise. Those items are unattainable for me because I do not buy gold, nor do I spend days on end farming Cursed Shore as does the majority of my server. Unfortunately, farming ruins the game for most people because grinding is boring and it hurts the server in WvW, which in my opinion is the most important part of the game and the sole reason GW2 is such a good game compared to other MMORPGs.

My suggestion is as follows: The precursor should be purchasable for 2,500,000 karma. This would increase the Karma requirement of the legendary to ~3,700,000 karma. The precursor can still be purchased for gold, but now there is also a karma option.

There should be a new component called “Gift of Obsidian”, which requires 400 obsidian shards. This will replace the 250 obsidian shards included in the Gift of Mastery.

There should be another new component called “Gift of the Mists” which requires 2000 fractal relics. This will replace the lodestone component of the legendary.

Magic clovers should retain their luck component but in addition, each magic clover should be purchasable for 25 badges of honor, for a total of 1925 badges of honor for 77 mystic clovers. A magic clover could also be purchased for 10,000 glory each.

The Gift of Might and the Gift of Magic will turn into the Gift of Might and Magic which will require a quest chain to complete. One unique quest chain for physical damage legendaries, and another unique quest chain for magical damage legendaries.

The Gift of Metal is relatively cheap and will stay. The Gift of Light will require the same materials but instead of the lodestone requirement, the Gift of the Mists will be used.

The Icy Lodestones will be replaced with the Gift of Slaying, which is crafted using 50 crystals, a Fang of Jormag, a Scale of the Shatterer and an Eye of the Sunless, items obtained at a 30% chance from killing the dragon world bosses.

Anything not mentioned remains the same. This suggestion would apply to all legendaries in a similar manner even though this specific guide only concerns Sunrise. Legendaries should be based around hard work and dedication, not mindless farming in Cursed Shore or gold buying.

no…..no….no….no

No. Karma is so easy to get. All if what you mentioned (1 mil karma, etc) many people have. You do not need to buy anything with gold except for the 100 icy runestones and two recipes.

Making legendaries account bound on aquire will take them off the TP and make browsing it more pleasant. Everytime I open up the TP they taunt me with their insane crafting requirements and costs.

The karma requirements could be raised to make it difficult enough. The ectos generally have to be obtained with gold and the charged lodestones are almost always obtained with gold.

Theoretically, you can just farm them for weeks on end, but that’s equivalent to paying gold, and gives people the ability to buy gold and obtain those items with ease. A lot of legendaries are obtained through people buying gold.

In addition, those requirements keep people out of WvW.

It’s just a massive (Never ending) GRIND.

I agree but then I disagree.. there needs to be another way but those values are too low.

1M karma is what, 50 hours? Considering how easy karma is to get, that’d have to be around 5M karma to make it moderately difficult.

Clovers – 100 badges each, not 10. 777 badges is 5 hours of zerg-balling, compared to the 367 Ectos I used to get my clovers, equivalent of 70G for 777 badges.. again, too low and not difficult.

Fractels Relics? lol no.. not all of us are carebear PvE’ers.

Gifts are fine the way they are.

Lodestones need to be offered in a Soul/Account bound fashion as well.

100 badges per clover is ridiculous. No one gets 770 badges from 5 hours of zerg balling. 25 badges per clover might be reasonable as the total would be 1925 badges, which is quite a lot. Any reasonable player would have never gotten that many badges on all of their characters combined.

To get that many Fractal relics in a reasonable amount of time, someone would have to become fairly high level in their fractal runs, which demonstrates that they’re a well rounded player who can follow directions as well.

The going price for a legendary is between 1500-1900 gold on my server. That is about $400 on a gold site. I’m a full time college student, so I make only $12/hour clean at my job. That’s 34 hours of work for a legendary at the current rate. For some people, its 20 hours or less of work.

You cant buy karma. You cant buy badges. You cant buy fractal relics.

LightBringer.8764:

That is about $400 on a gold site.

I really hope you mean gem to gold conversion or you may be finding yourself at the bad end of a banhammer soon for admitting that you use gold sites. :/

GunshyGamer.2076:

LightBringer.8764:

That is about $400 on a gold site.

I really hope you mean gem to gold conversion or you may be finding yourself at the bad end of a banhammer soon for admitting that you use gold sites. :/

No, he didn’t. Also he didn’t admitt to anything, checking gold prices isn’t illegal and he didn’t say anything about buying.

Phoenix.7845:

GunshyGamer.2076:

LightBringer.8764:

That is about $400 on a gold site.

I really hope you mean gem to gold conversion or you may be finding yourself at the bad end of a banhammer soon for admitting that you use gold sites. :/

No, he didn’t. Also he didn’t admitt to anything, checking gold prices isn’t illegal and he didn’t say anything about buying.

He’s advertising gold seller prices. He might not be buying, but he’s specifically saying to the forums “this is how much a legendary will cost if you go to a gold seller”. I’m pretty sure that’s a bannable offense, and if not, it should be.

“I play on a crap server where people are more concerned about farming gold than doing WvW.”
So lets make legendaries easy for you to get because you WvW.
Legendaries are cosmetic if you care that much about the cosmetics of the legendary you will farm it up.

LightBringer.8764:

100 badges per clover is ridiculous. No one gets 770 badges from 5 hours of zerg balling. 25 badges per clover might be reasonable as the total would be 1925 badges, which is quite a lot. Any reasonable player would have never gotten that many badges on all of their characters combined.

Reset night in T8 zergballing resulted in 225 badges in 3 hours.. putting 770 at 10 hours. 10 hours for arguably the hardest part of a legendary.. Sorry my Badges per hour was slightly off in my original post.

The suggestion was taking out a very MONEY heavy, RNG-based composite of the legendary process to a very small amount of badges. 800 badges is easy, even if you don’t play WvW a lot; to make up for that you have to make it a VERY high amount of badges.

Even 2k badges is pretty easy. 5k badges for 77 clovers would be nice, considering 1k badges get you full exotic armor, you’d get 77 clovers for the cost of 2 full exotic (armor) sets, which in globs is 30 + mats which is far cheaper than making clovers with them in OP and your suggestion.

EDIT: I do like the idea of using other things than Gold/Farming to get components of the Legendary. If having a Legendary means you are a “well-rounded” player, shouldn’t you be able to actually BE well-rounded to get one? Just sitting in Orr farming isn’t being well-rounded.

Jrunyon.3012:

Phoenix.7845:

GunshyGamer.2076:

LightBringer.8764:

That is about $400 on a gold site.

I really hope you mean gem to gold conversion or you may be finding yourself at the bad end of a banhammer soon for admitting that you use gold sites. :/

No, he didn’t. Also he didn’t admitt to anything, checking gold prices isn’t illegal and he didn’t say anything about buying.

He’s advertising gold seller prices. He might not be buying, but he’s specifically saying to the forums “this is how much a legendary will cost if you go to a gold seller”. I’m pretty sure that’s a bannable offense, and if not, it should be.

Please refrain from posting in my thread if you are a legitimate and certifiable kitten No one is advertising gold buying. I am stating how much a gold buying website would charge for the gold required to get a legendary item. Stating that a Big Mac costs $2.50 in McDonalds does not mean I am advertising McDonalds.

In fact, I am suggesting that changing the legendary components to not be gold would put an end to the majority of gold buying, but you are too much if an impulsive, idiotic child to understand that.

As for the badges, well I’ve never met a person who earns 225 badges in 3 hours of zerg balling, and even if that was possible, it would imply that all of your WvW experience includes massive zergballing against unskilled opponents where you essentially just farm badges. Now, I conceded that 770 badges may be too low of a number, but 25 badges per clover or 1925 badges in total seems completely fair. I have participated in WvW more than 95% of this game and maybe in total, I have a little over 2000 badges, which would be less than the badges required for the legendary considering the Gift of Battle is another 500.

The farmers are killing servers. They only farm Cursed Shore and do not participate in WvW. They don’t want to pay repairs and they never buy siege all for the sake of saving money. And they aren’t even wrong, siege prices and repairs build up, I myself have probably spent about 70g in total for those and I am not even a commander or in charge of a large guild. I’m just a dedicated WvW player.

Well yeah… my guild runs the zergball strat and yeah, we farm people. We like to PvP not PvDoor. You are correct, my estimate is on the high end, but it does show that it is possible.

My only point about the badges → clovers is equally the cost of doing it the original way to the “new” way, being that farming Gold + Shards + Ectos + Coins in terms of time and Gold.

I really wish ANet creates other ways to get the “important” parts of a Legendary. I just don’t think clovers need to be changed and if they do, needs to be equally hard.

PS: now I really friggin want McDonalds..

LightBringer.8764:

I play on a crap server where people are more concerned about farming gold than doing WvW.

To craft Sunrise, I need all of the required gameplay items such as the Gift of Battle, Gifts of Exploration and various karma rewards, but I also need around 900 gold.

900 Gold is something that is unattainable for me, because I spend the majority of my time doing WvW to make my server better. A lot of money is spent on repairs or siege equipment so that my garbage server has somewhat of a chance in battles.

I have over 1500 Badges of Honor in total, over 1,000,000 karma and about 25 unused karma jugs, the gift of exploration, over 400 skill points etc. These are heavy achievements that very few people, even those with legendaries, have.

What I don’t have is the precursor, the icy runestones and the huge amounts of ectos and lodestones I need to finish Sunrise. Those items are unattainable for me because I do not buy gold, nor do I spend days on end farming Cursed Shore as does the majority of my server. Unfortunately, farming ruins the game for most people because grinding is boring and it hurts the server in WvW, which in my opinion is the most important part of the game and the sole reason GW2 is such a good game compared to other MMORPGs.

My suggestion is as follows: The precursor should be purchasable for 2,500,000 karma. This would increase the Karma requirement of the legendary to ~3,700,000 karma. The precursor can still be purchased for gold, but now there is also a karma option.

There should be a new component called “Gift of Obsidian”, which requires 400 obsidian shards. This will replace the 250 obsidian shards included in the Gift of Mastery.

There should be another new component called “Gift of the Mists” which requires 2000 fractal relics. This will replace the lodestone component of the legendary.

Magic clovers should retain their luck component but in addition, each magic clover should be purchasable for 25 badges of honor, for a total of 1925 badges of honor for 77 mystic clovers. A magic clover could also be purchased for 10,000 glory each.

The Gift of Might and the Gift of Magic will turn into the Gift of Might and Magic which will require a quest chain to complete. One unique quest chain for physical damage legendaries, and another unique quest chain for magical damage legendaries.

The Gift of Metal is relatively cheap and will stay. The Gift of Light will require the same materials but instead of the lodestone requirement, the Gift of the Mists will be used.

The Icy Lodestones will be replaced with the Gift of Slaying, which is crafted using 50 crystals, a Fang of Jormag, a Scale of the Shatterer and an Eye of the Sunless, items obtained at a 30% chance from killing the dragon world bosses.

Anything not mentioned remains the same. This suggestion would apply to all legendaries in a similar manner even though this specific guide only concerns Sunrise. Legendaries should be based around hard work and dedication, not mindless farming in Cursed Shore or gold buying.

You understand that most people with one legendary, have multiple ones right? just having 2 legendaries means that they have had:

400 skill points.
1,000,000 karma
1,000 Badges of Honor
plus various hundreds of gold to make said legendaries.

What I’m seeing here is a complaint about the RNG Gifts and not having enough gold. To that I say, farm dungeons. Farming dungeons not only gets you materials for your gifts, but gets you gold fast. CoF is a great example at this, hell even Sorrow’s Embrace is decent at this too(made 3 gold from running two paths once).

They are not going to change the recipes for Legendaries because Legendaries should be hard to make. It should take time. At most, they will make it easier to get mats, but not too easy, and hopefully one day they will get off their kitten #8217;s and figure out a better way to get a pre-rec then this RNG bullkitten.