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Posted by: Slive.9053

Slive.9053

“Eventually, you’ll be able to kit yourself out with a full set of Ascended gear and high end Infusions to help give you the edge in end game content.”

This quote from the ascended gear announcement has disappointed me.

I haven’t played Guild Wars 1, but I understand grinding is minimal because all gear has the same stats at max level. I heard ArenaNet planned to continue this model in GW2, which is what originally attracted me to the game. In fact it made me pretty excited. I was really looking forward to relaxing and having fun, rather than having to grind just so I could enjoy all of the content.

Having to grind for gear that gives an “edge” of any kind is really the opposite of what I hoped GW2 would be. This is the least creative way to challenge players and create a sense of advancement. I really hope ArenaNet decides not to continue down this path.

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Posted by: Cloud.7613

Cloud.7613

I believe Ascending gear is a one time thing, It follows up from their system. Besides, this is an MMO, grinding is expected. But you’re not forced to do it, the upgrades are almost insignificant. I believe the Infusions are referring to high end game PvE content. This does not effect WvW, sPvP and the casual player.

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Posted by: Nels the Cornwhisperer.8025

Nels the Cornwhisperer.8025

Ascending gear is not a one time thing, Cloud. Please read the actual blog post from Linsey before you speak any more on the subject.

This does affect the casual player.

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So shines a good deed in a naughty world.
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Posted by: Cloud.7613

Cloud.7613

Ascending gear is not a one time thing, Cloud. Please read the actual blog post from Linsey before you speak any more on the subject.

This does affect the casual player.

Ok where does it exactly say there will be a set after Ascending gear? I’ll like a screenshot of the next gear, thanks <3

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Posted by: Slive.9053

Slive.9053

“The new additions in November are just the start of our item progression initiative.”

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/linsey-murdock-unveils-new-high-end-ascended-gear/?utm_source=client

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Posted by: Nels the Cornwhisperer.8025

Nels the Cornwhisperer.8025

Edit: Slive already said exactly what I was posting....

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Posted by: Cloud.7613

Cloud.7613

“The new additions in November are just the start of our item progression initiative.”

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/linsey-murdock-unveils-new-high-end-ascended-gear/?utm_source=client

Till I see a set after Ascending gear this is only speculation on the Ascending set itself, sorry.

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Posted by: Nels the Cornwhisperer.8025

Nels the Cornwhisperer.8025

No, Cloud, that isn’t speculation. That is a quote, from a game designer.

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Posted by: Dridikos.4019

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I find no problem with the grinding the have for end gear bc seriously other than that what else are you going to do in pve?? Plus your whole argument is pretty much saying give me free cookies…. Work for the gear, and when you look kitten feel acomplished

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Posted by: Nels the Cornwhisperer.8025

Nels the Cornwhisperer.8025

No, it doesn’t mean multiple things. Read the rest of the post: "As we introduce the new high-level content, we’ll also roll out new Ascended items"

I know, it’s hard to read because the page is screwed up on a few people’s browsers, there’s posts like that in the support forums, but please at least try.

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Posted by: Cloud.7613

Cloud.7613

No, it doesn’t mean multiple things. Read the rest of the post: “As we introduce the new high-level content, we’ll also roll out new Ascended items”

I know, it’s hard to read because the page is screwed up on a few people’s browsers, there’s posts like that in the support forums, but please at least try.

we’ll also roll out new Ascended items <- Ascended items. ASCENDED ITEMS.

You’re saying there will be another set afterwards, get personal more pls. <3

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Posted by: BabelFish.7234

BabelFish.7234

I actually don’t mind the gear progression. All I want is for the treadmill to be easy and follow their general theme of X type of set has X amount of stats so everyone with that gear is on the same footing (and for said gear not to be a absurd WoW gear grind for months for that X piece…the WvWvW armor is bad enough as is)

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Posted by: Cloud.7613

Cloud.7613

I actually don’t mind the gear progression. All I want is for the treadmill to be easy and follow their general theme of X type of set has X amount of stats so everyone with that gear is on the same footing (and for said gear not to be a absurd WoW gear grind for months for that X piece…the WvWvW armor is bad enough as is)

WvW armor is pretty bad to get, I have to admit. But most people pass on getting the set anyway. We’ll have to wait and see really. ^^

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Posted by: Slive.9053

Slive.9053

“The new additions in November are just the start of our item progression initiative.”

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/linsey-murdock-unveils-new-high-end-ascended-gear/?utm_source=client

Till I see a set after Ascending gear this is only speculation on the Ascending set itself, sorry.

I guess all we can do is speculate, but I think the quote certainly insinuates a WoW-like gear progression. I could also say that you are speculating that it doesn’t mean that :P

Plus your whole argument is pretty much saying give me free cookies…. Work for the gear, and when you look kitten feel acomplished

I have no problem with it being difficult to get gear that looks really cool. As long as I don’t need that difficult-to-get gear in order to explore game content.

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Posted by: forrae.6708

forrae.6708

I have no problem with it being difficult to get gear that looks really cool. As long as I don’t need that difficult-to-get gear in order to explore game content.

this x10000000

i was hoping for things in gw2 to be more based on skill than being reliant on gear to be able to see content.. and we all know how well thats going for diablo 3 and WoW

thugged out since cubscouts

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Posted by: neon.4863

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I am going to dump this link here too:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/info/news/A-message-from-our-Studio-Design-Director-Chris-Whiteside/first#post721451

“Our goal is not to create a gear treadmill. Our goal is to ensure we have a proper progression for players from exotic up to legendary without a massive jump in reward between the two. We will slowly add the remaining ascended gear items and legendary items in future updates to allow people time to acquire them as we add exciting new content that deserves exciting rewards. We will not be adding a new tier of gear every 3 months that we expect everyone to chase after and then get the next set and so on.”

While this does not specify there will never, ever be another set after Ascended, it does specifically say Ascended is meant as a stepping stone between Exotic and Legendary since the requirements for Legendary are far above those of Exotic. It also only specifies they’ll be adding new Ascended and Legendary items and says nothing of future new tiers.

If you ask me, I’d wager Ascended items came into existence because of frequent (rightfully) complaints that the materials needed for legendaries are excessive, and because of the extremely high prices of legendary precursors on the TP. Maybe it is a bad decision on their part, we don’t know yet. It’s speculation all around.

Edit: The need for Ascended gear to get PvE content sort of irks me a little, too, but I’ll reserve judgment until I actually have need for said gear, personally.

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Posted by: Slive.9053

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Thanks neon, that post makes me feel a bit better.