Guild Wars 2

Since this game isn’t getting any more alt-friendly, why not let us “sell” our level 80 characters for some amount of gold?

I don’t mean sell to another player, but have a way to delete the character and get back some of our investment so that we can focus on a single main.

Or, just make it alt friendly again. No more 1 million pieces of linen to make the next level of armor that isn’t actually needed for any reason other than you guys making it harder to satisfy those who say it’s too easy. It’s a cyclical issue. I stand by the assessment that more people quit a game because it’s too hard/complicated than because it’s too easy.

Of course, it is satisfying to complete a hard/complicated game. I remember the first time I beat a game (Jedi Outcast) without cheating/modding (I was 10ish), next was Need for Speed Underground, then Morrowind. I’ve never felt that same sense of accomplishment in an MMO when I’ve crafted a hard to obtain item though. In the end it was just another piece of armor that was only going to be replaced by the next, even harder to obtain, set to come out and I stopped caring. The arms race of armor/weapons should only exist for PvPers (not to be mean or anything, but they know that if they could get better PvP armor they’d all hop on board and then eagerly wait for the next stuff), it doesn’t do much other than annoy PvEers to no end when they have to spend half their time grinding for mats to make a piece of armor that doesn’t apply any noticeable benefit to killing NPCs.

Incorrect they actually debuff our total damage before the release of the ascended armor

breaking the promise for a small damage gain-

just to make the game more difficult-

you should try to feel the weight of your character while you play

I have noticed this over the past year but they were all minor before the asc armor, however the damage reduced from the trinkets alone all together is massive.

Now that the armor is out they reduced us greatly again and we have to waste time killing each monster as well as months of grinding just to get back to the same power as before.

Johnathan Ralston.5871:

Incorrect they actually debuff our total damage before the release of the ascended armor

breaking the promise for a small damage gain-

just to make the game more difficult-

you should try to feel the weight of your character while you play

I have noticed this over the past year but they were all minor before the asc armor, however the damage reduced from the trinkets alone all together is massive.

Now that the armor is out they reduced us greatly again and we have to waste time killing each monster as well as months of grinding just to get back to the same power as before.

Proof/source?
That’s one serious accusation, and as such I’d rather side with ANET, who’s already a more familiar face than with someone of whom I’ve never heard about until now.

Sorry, but seems rather silly to me… and how is it not altfriendly? I have 1 main and 4 alts, I have no problems with it.

i have 1 main and 8 alts, only my main is lvl 80.
yeah sure, alt friendly…..-_-

sorudo.9054:

i have 1 main and 8 alts, only my main is lvl 80.
yeah sure, alt friendly…..-_-

Alt friendly doesn’t equal “Lazy-kitten friendly”.

I have one main and five alts. Four out of five are level 80 and three of them are decently geared.

They are making the game more alt-friendly with the new features coming this year. They are going to blend PvE and PvP. Everything you have in your PvP locker will be available to be used in PvE and vice versa.

This is probably one of the best updates coming. Housing will most likely come this year as well, if it’s housing or guild halls i’m not sure, maybe it makes more sense for guild halls to release first.

FenrirSlakt.3692:

sorudo.9054:

i have 1 main and 8 alts, only my main is lvl 80.
yeah sure, alt friendly…..-_-

Alt friendly doesn’t equal “Lazy-kitten friendly”.

I have one main and five alts. Four out of five are level 80 and three of them are decently geared.

oh yeah sure, it’s so alt friendly….you need to be on every single day and have no life but it’s alt friendly….

i have a job and not a light one ether, i also have other things to do then playing games.
maybe you have time to waste but i play games for the enjoyment, if the game is made to farm and grind rather then having fun and to relax then i don’t see why the game exists at all.

sorudo.9054:

FenrirSlakt.3692:

sorudo.9054:

i have 1 main and 8 alts, only my main is lvl 80.
yeah sure, alt friendly…..-_-

Alt friendly doesn’t equal “Lazy-kitten friendly”.

I have one main and five alts. Four out of five are level 80 and three of them are decently geared.

oh yeah sure, it’s so alt friendly….you need to be on every single day and have no life but it’s alt friendly….

i have a job and not a light one ether, i also have other things to do then playing games.
maybe you have time to waste but i play games for the enjoyment, if the game is made to farm and grind rather then having fun and to relax then i don’t see why the game exists at all.

You’re not the only one with a job/career, mate, but it’s always hilarious to see people use that argument as a last resort.

FenrirSlakt.3692:

sorudo.9054:

FenrirSlakt.3692:

sorudo.9054:

i have 1 main and 8 alts, only my main is lvl 80.
yeah sure, alt friendly…..-_-

Alt friendly doesn’t equal “Lazy-kitten friendly”.

I have one main and five alts. Four out of five are level 80 and three of them are decently geared.

oh yeah sure, it’s so alt friendly….you need to be on every single day and have no life but it’s alt friendly….

i have a job and not a light one ether, i also have other things to do then playing games.
maybe you have time to waste but i play games for the enjoyment, if the game is made to farm and grind rather then having fun and to relax then i don’t see why the game exists at all.

You’re not the only one with a job/career, mate, but it’s always hilarious to see people use that argument as a last resort.

and it’s insulting for ppl to call having only one lvl 80 being lazy, you obviously have more time on your hands then i do.

It’s not getting a lvl 80 that should be profitable, then everyone will want to swap at the end of a dungeon just to lvl their alt and it’ll just ruin the fun for everyone and lead to lots of discussions. It’s the reward for world completion that should be more than just 2 pieces of a map which are useless if you’re not going for a legendary. Adding 25g to that chest wouldn’t be a bad idea considering the effort it takes to get world completion.

It is easy enough to get a toon to lvl 80 and perhaps not top geared but decently so.
Almost all achievements are account based and not character based. Some even require you to have more than one toon.

I don’t play the game all the time, actually my time in game is rather low atm, and I still find it fairly alt friendly.

“Alt-friendly” is not the same as logging in and having all your characters miraculously level themselves to 80 and make their own top-tier gear.

If you’re leveling alts, you are making the decision to split your time, rather than focusing on one character. It is only logical that it is going to take longer overall to get all of those extra characters leveled and geared.

If you’re leveling alts and not enjoying it, why are you leveling alts? If you are enjoying it, who cares if it takes longer? That’s an extension of your enjoyment of the game.

Coming from someone with eight lvl 80s: YES, it takes longer than focusing on one main. BUT, having all those alts definitely has its benefits.

maybe a prestige system….. where you leveled to 80…. and you can reset your toon back to lvl 1, and do it all over again…. and get another shiny gold star next to your world completion star next to your character’s name.

evlover.6270:

It’s not getting a lvl 80 that should be profitable, then everyone will want to swap at the end of a dungeon just to lvl their alt and it’ll just ruin the fun for everyone and lead to lots of discussions. It’s the reward for world completion that should be more than just 2 pieces of a map which are useless if you’re not going for a legendary. Adding 25g to that chest wouldn’t be a bad idea considering the effort it takes to get world completion.

THIS! OMG…THIS. As for “Not alt friendly” I’m flat-out ignoring ascended armor and only making ascended weapons for skins to throw over exotics cause they asc skins I happen to like have stats that I despise putting onto weapons (healing on the white/gold, seriously?). The time gates business is annoying for sure, but I’m ok with it because that can be gotten around with the AH, for me it’s all that fluff you have to go do annoyingly specific things to go get (dragonite from world bosses for me, i hate that mess every bit as much as champ farming trains)… It’s something I can swallow a certain amount of, but come on… 500 dragonite/empyreal/bloodstone for every weapon, 200 for every armor piece (1200 per suit across 6 pieces)…

AND where it gets alt-unfriendly…all that horrid grind across my 12 80s? 15 if you count the second mule account i keep for hiding legendary progression items…
Even just the 5 or who I frequent…

Basically pointing out here that: No, this is not alt-friendly… and something extra for the things you can only do once per character (personal story, map completions, etc) would make for a decent reward for doing it so often.

And before anyone calls me crazy, consider: I have multiples of different classes set on different races to grab a different look/feel and occasionally a different racial elite because having those option makes things LESS BORING for me personally. Not being so epic bored of locking it in on a single “main” comes at the price of needing to do semi-epic grinds multiple times (account bound mess for ascended, AR on items because account bound fractal level only helps that mess so much), and a little extra reward for preferring to do it this rather unique way would be very welcome.

And if you still think I’m crazy, I’m not…you’re just too boring an individual with your 1 or 2 characters to understand