Guild Wars 2

Please can we stop the having to go into WvW to get 100% PVE map completion.

It forces too many of us on PvE servers to go into something we don’t like to do, just to gain something we DO want.

For people on UW server, before all the WvW guilds left, we stood a chance at getting the bits we need from WvW, but now they have gone… We trail behind so much and cant even explore all of our own Border to gain what we need for world completion.

This will also stop the PvE players having to interrupt the WvW players, and will cause less stress and hassle to both parties.

The only reason one would need World Completion is for Legendaries though, and for legendaries you need to WvW (or well, at least you did until they added BoH to the achievement rewards).

There is however another good reason as to why to keep it.
Get people to do WvW.
There are quite a bit of people that never tried WvW, due to assuming they won’t like it. But then end up liking it after being “forced” to do it in order to do world completion.
Getting more people into WvW is a good thing.

We still have a chance on UW, it might simply take some time now and then, but usually we hold every single PoI/Vista/SP at least once per month ^^

ONCE A MONTH!!!!

You think that’s a good thing?

The fact is, the people who don’t want to do the WvW are forced into having to do it if they want to get 100%
This is wrong, and that’s why it should be removed.

People like myself want the world completion as a personal goal, not for the legendary items you get, because I don’t have, or want a legendary weapon. I don’t like them at all, and it’s a personal choice.

I can guarantee that many players on UW are simply not into WvW, otherwise a highly populated server would NOT be struggling so much in WvW – We do Dungeons, Lifestory, Farming (champs or otherwise) and Guild events…

We are NOT a WvW server.

Also, to get people to try WvW, should be an option they chose to do, and if they never do it, then so be it. I have people in my guild who have never done a single PvP battle, and they aren’t forced into it… It’s their game, they can decide how they play it.

If a-net really must get people involved, they already have done so by adding the achievements you can gain by taking part…. Examples.. Tower, Camps, Guard Kills, Repairing Towers.
To go beyond this and force PvE’ers into WvW so they can get their map complete, will not make them enjoy it as it instantly becomes a more PvP environment for them and puts them off going there.

You either love WvW or hate it, and trial by fire is NOT a good way to make that call.

Why?
I prefer to do WvW, but I am still forced to PvE if I want a legendary (which is also a personal goal).

WvW is part of the PvE-world, thus the World Exploration requires it. WvW is PvEvP after all.

Of course, many people on UW is not interested in WvW, but that doesn’t mean we can’t get more people interested.

Still tons of players who just want to play PvE with their friends and not be lag killed by someone in a PvP forced environment.

lordkrall.7241:

There are quite a bit of people that never tried WvW, due to assuming they won’t like it. But then end up liking it after being “forced” to do it in order to do world completion.

This is the category I fell in to. I hated being “forced” in to WvW, but once there and figured out what was going on I quite enjoyed it and have since gotten map completion and through kills and various achievements have amassed over 1200 badges of honor. A lot for a staff using necro who doesn’t typically get a lot of finishers, but I can scatter a zerg real quick. It really helps to have competent commander(s) on the map. I don’t even play WvW if there are no commanders around and leave if they’re incompetent, which there seem to be more and more of. Unless you’re doing a suicide run to get a POI or vista, don’t try to roam solo in WvW, that’s just asking to die. If there are commanders on the map go to them, that is where the zerg will be and there is much more safety in numbers. If there are more than one commander, use world chat and ask where you should be. You also have to watch world chat much more closely in WvW.

My suggestion is to give it a try a “few” times since if you only try it once and decide you hate it, which I did because I had no idea what I was doing, was swarmed by a zerg and died almost immediately. Months later I tried it again and figured things out. Like I said, a good commander makes all the difference, but you have to accept the fact that you WILL die A LOT more often in WvW than in PvE.

@Lemas – Yes, I see your point, but you are missing mine.

Although you have been put into the “try it and you may like it” category, I am speaking for those of us who do NOT like it after trying it…. and remember for the ones who DO like it, they don’t need POI’s ,Vista’s, SP’s.. Etc… to stay in WvW a long time, because that’s what they enjoy doing.

Sickle.6502:

@Lemas – Yes, I see your point, but you are missing mine.

Although you have been put into the “try it and you may like it” category, I am speaking for those of us who do NOT like it after trying it…. and remember for the ones who DO like it, they don’t need POI’s ,Vista’s, SP’s.. Etc… to stay in WvW a long time, because that’s what they enjoy doing.

You don’t need to stay in if you don’t want to play, you can pop in and check to see if what you need is under our control and pop out, this is what a friend of mine did. This will take longer, but unless map completion is the last ling you need for the legendary weapon, what’s the hurry? The enemy borderlands can be more challenging and you may find yourself doing some suicide runs. In any case, if you want to make a legendary weapon, you have to play WvW to get the 500 badges of honor to buy the Gift of Battle.

For those of us who don’t want a legendary weapon and just wish to play the PvE content?
What about these players?

Do they not deserve the right to refuse to do something, without infringing on what they want to achieve in other areas?
Did they not pay the same money to play the game as they want to?

In some ways, yes, forcing players into WvW is a good thing and it gets them to try new things which they wouldn’t otherwise think of doing, but my point is…. that WvW should be an optional thing to those who want it to be.

If they are at all interested in WvW action, there is plenty to research about on Youtube, they can go there, see for themselves, then if they like it, hop into it on their characters… but the people who outright do not enjoy it, and only enjoy the PvE aspects, are hindered by having to go into an area which forces them out of their comfort zone.