Guild Wars 2

Point #1: If you sPvP’ed you’d know this. If you don’t, well, you’ve gotta learn sometime.

Point #2: Not sure what your point is here. Good job on having an opinion, though!

Point #3: Does it really matter? You loot a soulbound item off a locker, and can return it to the locker for your entire account.

Point #4: You realize how much effort it would be to differentiate PvP and PvE rewards? Additionally, if they were to do that (and they’d also differentiate WvW rewards, which they technically already do via WvW chests), both WvW and PvP would get achievement chests at a far faster rate than PvE due to the amount of accessible points.

To put it bluntly: You got free kitten, stop kittening.

Oh for goodness sakes. You got free stuff.

Ok. If we are going to complain when people give us free stuff then this is my version:

OMG ANET YOU SHOULD HAVE KNOWN I NEVER PVP!!!!!!!!
How dare you give me PvP stuff. I don’t care that’ its free or that maybe one day I might do PvP. I don’t PvP now and you should know this! This makes me very angry! And how dare you make a special PvP locker for me and not email me about the details. What am I supposed to do? Play the game and find out for myself? NO! That’s unreasonable!

Yah. They should look at all our accounts and know exactly what characters we have AND whether we PvP or not. Anything else is completely unacceptable.

/sarcasm

Dear Player,

Thank you for enjoying our game. We’ve enclosed a giant box of free stuff for you to enjoy.

Love
Anet. <3

Dear Anet,

kitten you.

Hate,
Player

It’s dumb that your spvp skins aren’t tradeable to other people and have a locker system to keep them from eating up your inventory? Could somebody please tape this man’s mouth shut, he’s clearly the reason why we don’t have MORE locker based skins…

Mistress Red Death.3078:

My point is: I got soulbound stuff that i can’t use. I don’t play PVP so i didn’t know the ‘trick.’ Some people won’t be told the trick. The stuff should not be soulbound it should be account bound. Having to perform a trick to get to that end result is dumb and a waist of my time.

I would like to be rewarded with something I’ll use, who wouldn’t, I don’t get a lot of exotics, so when i got 5 soulbound I couldn’t use. I was really mad. I know the trick now. But I SUGGEST, not having to know it.

And if it was accountbound, you’d complain that it was eating your inventory because you still wouldn’t know the “trick”.

Mistress Red Death.3078:

Soulbound to ONE character that can’t use them, I don’t want to trade them, I want to use them stupid.

Again, if it was accountbound, you’d still complain because you want to use them. Trust me, that’s how forums for video games works. If it’s better, someone complains. If it’s worse, someone complains. If it’s good, someone complains. If it’s bad, someone complains.

It’s fine the way it is. Making it account-bound or even telling people about the PvP locker wouldn’t help anything. Why would it not help? First off, if you were going to destroy the item, you’d see Deposit Collectible. Second off, look at the Achievement Point weapon rewards. They clearly state that you can redeem multiples of them but people complain that they’re soulbound and they got them on the wrong toon.

Mistress Red Death.3078:

Esplen.3940:

Mistress Red Death.3078:

Soulbound to ONE character that can’t use them, I don’t want to trade them, I want to use them stupid.

Again, if it was accountbound, you’d still complain because you want to use them. Trust me, that’s how forums for video games works. If it’s better, someone complains. If it’s worse, someone complains. If it’s good, someone complains. If it’s bad, someone complains.

It’s fine the way it is. Making it account-bound or even telling people about the PvP locker wouldn’t help anything. Why would it not help? First off, if you were going to destroy the item, you’d see Deposit Collectible. Second off, look at the Achievement Point weapon rewards. They clearly state that you can redeem multiples of them but people complain that they’re soulbound and they got them on the wrong toon.

Why do they have to be souldbound. What are they preventing by doing this?

This is the only thing i’ve ever complained about other than getting hacked. I LOVE THIS GAME. It’s the best game i’ve ever played. Forums are for exactly what i’m using them for.

Astral Projections.7320:

Oh for goodness sakes. You got free stuff.

Ok. If we are going to complain when people give us free stuff then this is my version:

OMG ANET YOU SHOULD HAVE KNOWN I NEVER PVP!!!!!!!!
How dare you give me PvP stuff. I don’t care that’ its free or that maybe one day I might do PvP. I don’t PvP now and you should know this! This makes me very angry! And how dare you make a special PvP locker for me and not email me about the details. What am I supposed to do? Play the game and find out for myself? NO! That’s unreasonable!

Yah. They should look at all our accounts and know exactly what characters we have AND whether we PvP or not. Anything else is completely unacceptable.

/sarcasm

It’s not about getting PVP stuff, its about getting it souldbound to a character that can’t use it. “Game Play” would never have explained the bank trick. I don’t play PVP, so I don’t know these rules. There are a lot of players that don’t play PVP and don’t know it. Getting rewards we don’t understand sucks. I still believe I have valid points. You are twisting them into something they are not. How many posts do you derail like this?

It’s not a trick… its your kittening spvp locker that you put your spvp gear, consumables, and crafting mats into… kitten

Also, please don’t quadruple post. There’s an edit button to allow you to add more to a response.

Player Character.9467:

It’s dumb that your spvp skins aren’t tradeable to other people and have a locker system to keep them from eating up your inventory? Could somebody please tape this man’s mouth shut, he’s clearly the reason why we don’t have MORE locker based skins…

I DON’T WANT TO TRADE WITH OTHER PEOPLE, just MY other characters. The locker system is fine. Just when you open it let the items be account bound instead of soulbound. Why is that so hard to understand?

Mistress Red Death.3078:

Esplen.3940:

Also, please don’t quadruple post. There’s an edit button to allow you to add more to a response.

figured that out, and cleaned it up

You didn’t clean up anything, you just deleted some of your replies instead of merging your quadruple post.

And to say that nobody read your post, you have no suggestion in your OP other than “add some directions” to which I responded with “people can’t read instructions”.

If you want more examples, look at Living Story guidelines, mail messages with Show Me, and all sorts of assorted information that gets overlooked by the majority of players.

In fact, just scrolling through the forums will show you multiples of the same “problem”, namely with the Achievement Chests and people not reading/understanding them on the first and second day.

Esplen.3940:

both WvW and PvP would get achievement chests at a far faster rate than PvE due to the amount of accessible points.

This, Sir, is a BIG FAT lie.

About 85-90% of my time with GW2 was spent in PvP. As of now I have ~820 achievement points from PvP, out of ~6400 total.

Which means PvE (in which I spent 10-15% of my play time so far) gave me about 5600.

Harrier.9380:

Esplen.3940:

both WvW and PvP would get achievement chests at a far faster rate than PvE due to the amount of accessible points.

This, Sir, is a BIG FAT lie.

About 85-90% of my time with GW2 was spent in PvP. As of now I have ~820 achievement points from PvP, out of ~6400 total.

Which means PvE (in which I spent 10-15% of my play time so far) gave me about 5600.

Thanks for taking my words out of context. I was saying that BECAUSE YOU DON’T GET AS MANY POINTS IN WVW AND PVP you would GET CHESTS FASTER FROM THEM BECAUSE OF THAT. It was putting his idea into fruition by verbally creating a scenario with his system in place (PvP, WvW and PvE each have their own rewards based on how much AP you have from each.)

Like you said, it’s ridiculously easy to get points from PvE, which means that PvE gets a chest every 500. Now if we go to PvP and WvW, you’re going to end up getting points every 100/250 AP instead, because of the amount of available points.

In this thread “Lynspottery but way angrier”

I suggest you read this https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/suggestions/Can-t-Use-Soulbound-chest-rewards/first#post2405096

Mistress Red Death.3078:

Player Character.9467:

It’s dumb that your spvp skins aren’t tradeable to other people and have a locker system to keep them from eating up your inventory? Could somebody please tape this man’s mouth shut, he’s clearly the reason why we don’t have MORE locker based skins…

I DON’T WANT TO TRADE WITH OTHER PEOPLE, just MY other characters. The locker system is fine. Just when you open it let the items be account bound instead of soulbound. Why is that so hard to understand?

What would you do with these account bound items that would make it any different? Mail them to yourself? Nope. Bank them? Why?

Put them in the PvP tab, so you can use them on any other you take them off with.

Mistress Red Death.3078:

But they are all SOULBOUND? WTF?

They are not soulbound.

You can put them in your I AM A GOLD SPAMMER. PLEASE REPORT ME BY PRESSING THE REPORT FLAG ICON IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT OF THIS POST! in the Mists (where any of your characters can take them) or salvage them with a PvP Salvage kit.

Use “Deposit All” in your inventory to put them there.

edit: I am not a freaking gold spammer, wtf!

So let me get this straight:

You get rewards for a game mode that you don’t play and get upset because you don’t understand those rewards. You admitted that you don’t PvP. That’s probably why you don’t get the mechanic.

Out of your post I drive two things:

You want to blame others for your PvP ignorance
You should make an effort to understand what is going on before you go flaming the devs

AntiGw.9367:

Mistress Red Death.3078:

But they are all SOULBOUND? WTF?

They are not soulbound.

You can put them in your I AM A GOLD SPAMMER. PLEASE REPORT ME BY PRESSING THE REPORT FLAG ICON IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT OF THIS POST! in the Mists (where any of your characters can take them) or salvage them with a PvP Salvage kit.

Wat?…

/15char

Player Character.9467:

AntiGw.9367:

Mistress Red Death.3078:

But they are all SOULBOUND? WTF?

They are not soulbound.

You can put them in your I AM A GOLD SPAMMER. PLEASE REPORT ME BY PRESSING THE REPORT FLAG ICON IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT OF THIS POST! in the Mists (where any of your characters can take them) or salvage them with a PvP Salvage kit.

Wat?…

/15char

It only says that they are soulbound while in your inventory. Deposit them, and any of your characters can use them.

Player Character.9467:

AntiGw.9367:

Mistress Red Death.3078:

But they are all SOULBOUND? WTF?

They are not soulbound.

You can put them in your I AM A GOLD SPAMMER. PLEASE REPORT ME BY PRESSING THE REPORT FLAG ICON IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT OF THIS POST! in the Mists (where any of your characters can take them) or salvage them with a PvP Salvage kit.

Wat?…

/15char

He wrote Pvp B@nk. That is a goldseller site and this is the forum protection against them. Had to learn it the hard way…

AntiGw.9367:

Player Character.9467:

AntiGw.9367:

Mistress Red Death.3078:

But they are all SOULBOUND? WTF?

They are not soulbound.

You can put them in your I AM A GOLD SPAMMER. PLEASE REPORT ME BY PRESSING THE REPORT FLAG ICON IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT OF THIS POST! in the Mists (where any of your characters can take them) or salvage them with a PvP Salvage kit.

Wat?…

/15char

It only says that they are soulbound while in your inventory. Deposit them, and any of your characters can use them.

nono, read his post again

love this thread…but to add legitimacy for no real reason: I do wish you could stack the excess junk from this in the locker rather than having to find somewhere to shove it while looking for a pvp salvage kit :P

With other words all that PvP stuff is completely useless and I can destroy it without afterthoughts. Thanks for clearing that up. Although I would prefer rewards that are actually beneficial, at least they don’t junk up my inventory. So destruction it is.

Esplen.3940:

Additionally, if they were to do that (and they’d also differentiate WvW rewards, which they technically already do via WvW chests), both WvW and PvP would get achievement chests at a far faster rate than PvE due to the amount of accessible points.

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I agree with pretty much everything else you said, but you do realize that the achievements that are WvW specific account for a grand total of 891 achievement points, half of which come from maxing the tracks. To max any of the tracks except player kills would take several years to get if you dedicated every second of your life (no sleeping or eating, you unfaithful killer) to a specific track. Only one track.

Compare that to PvE, where all 45 Jumping Puzzles can be marathon’d in less than a day for 450 points, Explorer nets 400 for walking, between dungeons and fractals, you can get another 495. Heck, the largely PvE oriented events have netted over 1400 possible achievement points.

PvP is barely off any better, with 520 from winning 150 tournament games/ 200 games with each profession, and then the points from rank points, which goes up exponentially.

Da Sonic.6521:

Esplen.3940:

Additionally, if they were to do that (and they’d also differentiate WvW rewards, which they technically already do via WvW chests), both WvW and PvP would get achievement chests at a far faster rate than PvE due to the amount of accessible points.

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I agree with pretty much everything else you said, but you do realize that the achievements that are WvW specific account for a grand total of 891 achievement points, half of which come from maxing the tracks. To max any of the tracks except player kills would take several years to get if you dedicated every second of your life (no sleeping or eating, you unfaithful killer) to a specific track. Only one track.

Compare that to PvE, where all 45 Jumping Puzzles can be marathon’d in less than a day for 450 points, Explorer nets 400 for walking, between dungeons and fractals, you can get another 495. Heck, the largely PvE oriented events have netted over 1400 possible achievement points.

PvP is barely off any better, with 520 from winning 150 tournament games/ 200 games with each profession, and then the points from rank points, which goes up exponentially.

DO YOU PEOPLE NOT READ?!

Holy crap.

Let me explain this again.

Esplen.3940:

Additionally, if they were to do that (and they’d also differentiate WvW rewards, which they technically already do via WvW chests), both WvW and PvP would get achievement chests at a far faster rate than PvE due to the amount of accessible points.

The context:
Splitting WvW, PvP, and PvE AP to grant different AP chests at different intervals (based on which type of AP is at the correct amount).

So what does that mean?

Because PvP and WvW get AP a lot slower (and it’s a lot harder) then you would end up getting the chests a lot faster/for less.

Because PvE gets AP relatively fast (and has the most access) then you would end up getting the chests a lot slower/for more.

Aka:
1 PvP chest would be every 90 points.
1 WvW chest would be every 60 points.
1 PvE chest would be every 500 points.

Which means that, relative to one another, you get the PvP and WvW ones faster.

Why did I setup WvW and PvP to 90/60 when there are only 891 WvW achievements? There are 3 daily WvW achievements and 4 daily PvP achievements, not to mention 5 monthly PvP achievements, and typically 1 WvW monthly achievement.

So if we do the math… (for repeatable achievements):

PvE gets 9 dailies and 6 monthlies, but 3 dailies are WvW and 1 monthly is WvW.
PvP gets 4 dailies and 4 monthlies.

PvE = 6 * 30 + 5 * 10 = 230 AP/mo
PvP = 4 * 30 + 4 * 10 = 160 AP/mo
WvW = 3 * 30 + 1 * 10 = 100 AP/mo

Now we add in PvE content, such as Bazaar. Technically one of the events is WvW, but let’s ignore that.

On average, each living story gives you 200. However, Bazaar is 250, so we’ll say 250 for this example (there are 2 living story parts each month).

So 250 * 2 = 500 more PvE AP/mo

Now we have:
730 AP/mo PvE
160 AP/mo PvP
100 AP/mo WvW

730 (AP) / 500 (AP/chest) = 1.46 chests per month.
160 (AP) / 90 (AP/chest) = 1.77 chests per month.
100 (AP) / 60 (AP/chest) = 1.66 chests per month.

THIS DOES NOT TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION ALL THE ACTUAL ACHIEVEMENTS FROM ANY GIVEN CATEGORY SINCE THEY ARE NOT REPEATABLE

Also keep in mind that the current system stops giving rewards at 10,000 AP.

Note: I currently believe that the current system is fine as is.

Agree with the original poster. I think it is close to ridiculous to be bombed with PvP Exo stuff when you are not into PvP at all (like myself). At least, I would have loved to give all that stuff away to someone who can make more use of it than myself. Not possible. Now I am amassing PvP armor and weapons in my bank account where they will dust until the end of days. I really wonder why we only get PvP chests for our achievement points … and don’t come up with the advice to start PvPing. There are people like we PvE’lers that play PvP only. For me its just fine. Everyone can play the game as they like. But then this award system is kind of biased.

This guy has a point. We are getting all that stuff for free, but what’s the point of that if we can’t use that?
ANet promised great stuff for the whole account, but soulbound stuff doesn’t work like that. It just doesn’t make sense at all, just put those items as account bound

Choosing not to use an aspect of the game is not the same as not being able to use it. It’s like deciding to only stay in Norn starting areas and asking a-net why you don’t have as much content as everyone else who utilizes more of the game. Obvious answer should be obvious.

HELLruler.4820:

This guy has a point. We are getting all that stuff for free, but what’s the point of that if we can’t use that?
ANet promised great stuff for the whole account, but soulbound stuff doesn’t work like that. It just doesn’t make sense at all, just put those items as account bound

There’s no soulbound stuff, as we have already explained.

I think that the PvP gear should have said that gear put into the locker can be turned account bound. I had no idea it would do that. I haven’t sPvP yet but I had been thinking I’d give it a try.

HELLruler.4820:

This guy has a point. We are getting all that stuff for free, but what’s the point of that if we can’t use that?
ANet promised great stuff for the whole account, but soulbound stuff doesn’t work like that. It just doesn’t make sense at all, just put those items as account bound

Put the PvP items in your characters personal inventory. Hit deposit collectibles. It will all go to your PvP’ bank where it will be account bound.

AntiGw.9367:

Mistress Red Death.3078:

But they are all SOULBOUND? WTF?

They are not soulbound.

You can put them in your I AM A GOLD SPAMMER. PLEASE REPORT ME BY PRESSING THE REPORT FLAG ICON IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT OF THIS POST! in the Mists (where any of your characters can take them) or salvage them with a PvP Salvage kit.

Use “Deposit All” in your inventory to put them there.

edit: I am not a freaking gold spammer, wtf!

Ugh I forgot about the PvP salvage kit. I have destroyed about 3-4 armor pieces because of it.