Guild Wars 2

If everyone has their profanity filter set to maximum by default this would significantly reduce the amount of 72 hour suspensions caused by inappropriate language.

By lowering the effectiveness of or removing entirely your profanity filter; you essentially gauge your tolerance for profanity. This would lessen the number of reports sent in by those who are offended by profanity because they cannot report what they cannot see. I believe that regardless of someone’s ability to install Guild Wars 2, they may not be sufficiently capable of navigating the options and raising the strength of the profanity filter.

Those encountering the strong filter and wishing to lower or remove it could do so just as you can now. This game is rated T by the ESRB. I understand not everyone wants their children to encounter strong language, this could help in that regard. I was here in the beginning. I know there is very little tolerance for language abuse, but I believe a change like this makes absolutely too much sense from a mature standpoint. I give myself the option to view and say strong language because I intend to view and say it.

I’m not denying the guilt of my 72 hour suspension. I know I said bad words in the presence of absolutely too many people. Rather than changing the way I speak to my friends in a video game I’d rather be illegible to those who cannot handle the strong language. I hope you consider this. This could prevent a lot of what seems like grief happening to others in the future.

What would reduce the 72 hour suspension by 100% would be people following the rules. Foul language does not equal maturity, nor does it make anyone look more “adult” than anyone else.

The filter is there as a safeguard, it is not a free pass for people to speak foul language of any kind. Much like people who argue that we have free speech and threaten a president who end up in prison. There is some common sense to be had in these situations, I know that is probably a swear word in itself on the internet..

Decent idea overall but… The game is rated T by the ESRB, the ESRB specifically states that they don’t rate the online parts of games, only the base content. If only people read that….. And the profanity filter was set to medium anyways the first time I logged on, I had to change it to uncensor the chat.

Geotherma.2395:

What would reduce the 72 hour suspension by 100% would be people following the rules. Foul language does not equal maturity, nor does it make anyone look more “adult” than anyone else.

The filter is there as a safeguard, it is not a free pass for people to speak foul language of any kind. Much like people who argue that we have free speech and threaten a president who end up in prison. There is some common sense to be had in these situations, I know that is probably a swear word in itself on the internet..

What is the logic behind having a profanity filter if you can remove it and get a 72 hour suspension for being witnessed saying an inappropriate word in the presence of another person who is supposedly not comfortable with mature language? Is that not the definition of hypocrisy? This wasn’t the act of a child purposefully miss-spelling a curse word to get around a forced profanity filter.

Also, this is not about maturity or free speech or common sense. Some people are more comfortable when communicating without restrictions. This game doesn’t stop them from doing that, but other players who opted into that language can punish them severely for speaking that way in earshot.

I believe there is a huge difference between being vulgar and using strong language.

Haku.5068:

Geotherma.2395:

What would reduce the 72 hour suspension by 100% would be people following the rules. Foul language does not equal maturity, nor does it make anyone look more “adult” than anyone else.

The filter is there as a safeguard, it is not a free pass for people to speak foul language of any kind. Much like people who argue that we have free speech and threaten a president who end up in prison. There is some common sense to be had in these situations, I know that is probably a swear word in itself on the internet..

What is the logic behind having a profanity filter if you can remove it and get a 72 hour suspension for being witnessed saying an inappropriate word in the presence of another person who is supposedly not comfortable with mature language? Is that not the definition of hypocrisy? This wasn’t the act of a child purposefully miss-spelling a curse word to get around a forced profanity filter.

Also, this is not about maturity or free speech or common sense. Some people are more comfortable when communicating without restrictions. This game doesn’t stop them from doing that, but other players who opted into that language can punish them severely for speaking that way in earshot.

I believe there is a huge difference between being vulgar and using strong language.

" for being witnessed saying an inappropriate word " You can be reported just as easily if someone sees a sea of – - – - on their screen. Because the chat logs still show that you broke the rules. It doesn’t stop them because it is not Arenanets job, nor could they handle, babysitting the servers for people who did not read or fail to understand the rules of the game. But also, it kind of does stop them, because continued violations will eventually lead to account termination. Thus removing that person and their language and blatant disregard for the games rules from the game.

As for strong language, it is only strong because we have made it so. We have either as a society made words have a negative meaning, or used already known words in a bad way. Today you can easily say the word “carrot” at the top of your lungs. Chances are not many people will be offended. One day someone uses it racially, ethnically, or derogatorily towards someone and it catches on. Next thing you know we have a new swear word or non PC word.

People can speak without ever swearing and communicate things so powerfully that people can be inspired, destroyed emotionally, or torn psychologically. You can take just about any quote from a great president, a writer, a person of power, and see its affect on the world at that given moment. Words can start a war, end a war, bring peace, destroy lives. Words we are bound by to communicate to one another is by far one of our greatest assets as a species. But here in the world of gaming, we are but a guest, inside another world. And in this world we are bound by a different set of rules if we wish to remain there. These things are in place to make sure our gaming world does not directly reflect some of the terrible problems we have in real life. Thus giving people like me, and you, and everyone else the ability to step away from the sometimes troubled world we live in. I would say there’s a chance some people who play could have been harmed by family, strangers, etc. And this type of behavior was something that brought them to the gaming world. Because here there is less toleration for this type of behavior.

I could go on, but it really comes down to one thing. We play on their world, and there is rules in order to do so. We are at the whim of those who made this world, and unlike in real life they DO have full control of what happens in their digital planet. When you clicked accept, when you clicked log in, you agreed to those terms. As does every player since the beginning, and is bound by the same respect.

Geotherma.2395:

Haku.5068:

Geotherma.2395:

What would reduce the 72 hour suspension by 100% would be people following the rules. Foul language does not equal maturity, nor does it make anyone look more “adult” than anyone else.

The filter is there as a safeguard, it is not a free pass for people to speak foul language of any kind. Much like people who argue that we have free speech and threaten a president who end up in prison. There is some common sense to be had in these situations, I know that is probably a swear word in itself on the internet..

What is the logic behind having a profanity filter if you can remove it and get a 72 hour suspension for being witnessed saying an inappropriate word in the presence of another person who is supposedly not comfortable with mature language? Is that not the definition of hypocrisy? This wasn’t the act of a child purposefully miss-spelling a curse word to get around a forced profanity filter.

Also, this is not about maturity or free speech or common sense. Some people are more comfortable when communicating without restrictions. This game doesn’t stop them from doing that, but other players who opted into that language can punish them severely for speaking that way in earshot.

I believe there is a huge difference between being vulgar and using strong language.

" for being witnessed saying an inappropriate word " You can be reported just as easily if someone sees a sea of – - – - on their screen. Because the chat logs still show that you broke the rules. It doesn’t stop them because it is not Arenanets job, nor could they handle, babysitting the servers for people who did not read or fail to understand the rules of the game. But also, it kind of does stop them, because continued violations will eventually lead to account termination. Thus removing that person and their language and blatant disregard for the games rules from the game.

As for strong language, it is only strong because we have made it so. We have either as a society made words have a negative meaning, or used already known words in a bad way. Today you can easily say the word “carrot” at the top of your lungs. Chances are not many people will be offended. One day someone uses it racially, ethnically, or derogatorily towards someone and it catches on. Next thing you know we have a new swear word or non PC word.

People can speak without ever swearing and communicate things so powerfully that people can be inspired, destroyed emotionally, or torn psychologically. You can take just about any quote from a great president, a writer, a person of power, and see its affect on the world at that given moment. Words can start a war, end a war, bring peace, destroy lives. Words we are bound by to communicate to one another is by far one of our greatest assets as a species. But here in the world of gaming, we are but a guest, inside another world. And in this world we are bound by a different set of rules if we wish to remain there. These things are in place to make sure our gaming world does not directly reflect some of the terrible problems we have in real life. Thus giving people like me, and you, and everyone else the ability to step away from the sometimes troubled world we live in. I would say there’s a chance some people who play could have been harmed by family, strangers, etc. And this type of behavior was something that brought them to the gaming world. Because here there is less toleration for this type of behavior.

I could go on, but it really comes down to one thing. We play on their world, and there is rules in order to do so. We are at the whim of those who made this world, and unlike in real life they DO have full control of what happens in their digital planet. When you clicked accept, when you clicked log in, you agreed to those terms. As does every player since the beginning, and is bound by the same respect.

So you are one of the people who are uncomfortable with strong language? I assume you have your profanity filter at maximum. If not then you are a hypocrite who selectively reports mature language at your own discretion. This is the dilemma. That does not change regardless of what your personal guidelines of how a conversation between two adults should transpire.

Edit: I appreciate this discussion, but this suggestion was put forth to be considered by a higher power.

Haku.5068:

Geotherma.2395:

Haku.5068:

Geotherma.2395:

So you are one of the people who are uncomfortable with strong language? I assume you have your profanity filter at maximum. If not then you are a hypocrite who selectively reports mature language at your own discretion. This is the dilemma. That does not change regardless of what your personal guidelines of how a conversation between two adults should transpire.

Actually I care very little about others language in game as it doesn’t affect me. Now if my son is playing he has on the filter, but he only plays if I am watching. But I believe others who are following the rules and are trying to enjoy the game have the right to report those who are interfering with that experience as pertaining to the rules of the game.

I don’t report people unless they severely offend me, which would be for something far more than language.

But I think you are missing the biggest part. You say there is a dilemma, and how two people talk between one another is between them and they can /say what they like. The point you are missing is that it is against the rules to use vulgar language in game.

So the entire idea that one should be able to speak how they want in game is moot, because it is clearly stated what is expected of you in this game. If you do not abide you are punished, there is no further or deeper explanation needed. This is simply how it is if someone wishes to play the game. They can abide, be infected/banned, or leave. That is their choice, but they agreed to the terms when they started. So they are at fault in that respect. There is no discussion as to whether swearing or vulgarity should be acceptable, because there is no fine line, it clearly stated it is not acceptable. And those in charge of monitoring such things and responding will, in their sole discretion, take action against those who do not abide by what they agreed upon when entering the game.

Geotherma.2395:

Haku.5068:

Geotherma.2395:

Haku.5068:

Geotherma.2395:

So you are one of the people who are uncomfortable with strong language? I assume you have your profanity filter at maximum. If not then you are a hypocrite who selectively reports mature language at your own discretion. This is the dilemma. That does not change regardless of what your personal guidelines of how a conversation between two adults should transpire.

Actually I care very little about others language in game as it doesn’t affect me. Now if my son is playing he has on the filter, but he only plays if I am watching. But I believe others who are following the rules and are trying to enjoy the game have the right to report those who are interfering with that experience as pertaining to the rules of the game.

I don’t report people unless they severely offend me, which would be for something far more than language.

But I think you are missing the biggest part. You say there is a dilemma, and how two people talk between one another is between them and they can /say what they like. The point you are missing is that it is against the rules to use vulgar language in game.

So the entire idea that one should be able to speak how they want in game is moot, because it is clearly stated what is expected of you in this game. If you do not abide you are punished, there is no further or deeper explanation needed. This is simply how it is if someone wishes to play the game. They can abide, be infected/banned, or leave. That is their choice, but they agreed to the terms when they started. So they are at fault in that respect. There is no discussion as to whether swearing or vulgarity should be acceptable, because there is no fine line, it clearly stated it is not acceptable. And those in charge of monitoring such things and responding will, in their sole discretion, take action against those who do not abide by what they agreed upon when entering the game.

You’re right. It boils down to how they want to enforce this rule in their code of conduct:

3. You may not create character names or otherwise transmit, post, link to or facilitate the distribution of any sexually explicit, harmful, threatening, abusive, defamatory, infringing, obscene, hateful, vulgar, racially or ethnically offensive, invasive of personal privacy or publicity rights, or objectionable in a reasonable person’s view imagery or content.
/end

I respect the rules of conduct but I believe that what is considered vulgar/obscene etc. is relative to the person observing. I am not a lawyer and do not know if it’s common practice to have such wording so as to make anything short of a conversation you would have with a grandparent at a family reunion seem extreme. I am not ok with another person using their moral compass to decide if what I said was acceptable for table talk, but that is what I agreed to. I agreed and I ask them to consider a change. Not a change of the ToS or RoC.

When ingame I know I’m very capable of offending people. In fact, I make a habit of saying things that I know will spark conversations among friends. I don’t care if some random stranger saw that as offensive. In this world you can offend someone by being a different skin color from them. People will always get offended with something they don’t agree with. However, in this game they’re fully capable of not having to see it.

Edit: I violated that rule thoroughly that day. Laughs were had among friends, but I made the mistake of being heard by people who would be offended. Simple, but I still bite my lip over the fact that they even opt to hear the words that offend them.

Haku.5068:

I am not a lawyer

Haku.5068:

I am not ok with another person using their moral compass to decide if what I said was acceptable for table talk

Haku.5068:

I don’t care if some random stranger saw that as offensive.

You see the problem here?

Haku.5068:

I know I said bad words in the presence of absolutely too many people.

Guessing you are talking about /map instead of /say right? And in Lion’s Arch?

Geotherma.2395:

What would reduce the 72 hour suspension by 100% would be people following the rules.

And that is problem solved.

And FYI, the profanity filter can pick up A LOT of words that aren’t profanity, specially if they’re in a foreign language, for example, you know in Albania the word for car is the same word used for “gentleman sausage”?
This happens between pretty much every language on the planet, normal words in one is a curse in another, and its really annoying when the filter kicks in, so people that turn it off aren’t exactly doing it so to hunt you down, nor are they violating any rules.

Dean Calaway.9718:

Haku.5068:

I am not a lawyer

Haku.5068:

I am not ok with another person using their moral compass to decide if what I said was acceptable for table talk

Haku.5068:

I don’t care if some random stranger saw that as offensive.

You see the problem here?

Haku.5068:

I know I said bad words in the presence of absolutely too many people.

Guessing you are talking about /map instead of /say right? And in Lion’s Arch?

Geotherma.2395:

What would reduce the 72 hour suspension by 100% would be people following the rules.

And that is problem solved.

And FYI, the profanity filter can pick up A LOT of words that aren’t profanity, specially if they’re in a foreign language, for example, you know in Albania the word for car is the same word used for “gentleman sausage”?
This happens between pretty much every language on the planet, normal words in one is a curse in another, and its really annoying when the filter kicks in, so people that turn it off aren’t exactly doing it so to hunt you down, nor are they violating any rules.

It was in /say in Heart of the Mists. Also I fail to see what my own personal opinion on mature language has to do with this matter. Do you not already have a filter on your everyday talk that nerfs your ability to say a massive number of words? I would consider it useful to know every word that could possibly offend someone even if they were speaking another language. Not for use against them, but for the purpose of avoiding them in everyday conversation. No one wants to accidentally make a kitten of themselves in what is supposed to be a casual discussion between two strangers.

Haku.5068:

Dean Calaway.9718:

Haku.5068:

I am not a lawyer

Haku.5068:

I am not ok with another person using their moral compass to decide if what I said was acceptable for table talk

Haku.5068:

I don’t care if some random stranger saw that as offensive.

You see the problem here?

Haku.5068:

I know I said bad words in the presence of absolutely too many people.

Guessing you are talking about /map instead of /say right? And in Lion’s Arch?

Geotherma.2395:

What would reduce the 72 hour suspension by 100% would be people following the rules.

And that is problem solved.

And FYI, the profanity filter can pick up A LOT of words that aren’t profanity, specially if they’re in a foreign language, for example, you know in Albania the word for car is the same word used for “gentleman sausage”?
This happens between pretty much every language on the planet, normal words in one is a curse in another, and its really annoying when the filter kicks in, so people that turn it off aren’t exactly doing it so to hunt you down, nor are they violating any rules.

It was in /say in Heart of the Mists. Also I fail to see what my own personal opinion on mature language has to do with this matter. Do you not already have a filter on your everyday talk that nerfs your ability to say a massive number of words? I would consider it useful to know every word that could possibly offend someone even if they were speaking another language. Not for use against them, but for the purpose of avoiding them in everyday conversation. No one wants to accidentally make a kitten of themselves in what is supposed to be a casual discussion between two strangers.

“Also I fail to see what my own personal opinion on mature language has to do with this matter. "

Your opinion on what is acceptable does not coincide with Arenanets in game. Also some people remove filter because it unintentional could be blocking parts of chat, especially in different languages. And in order to know every offensive word you would have to be fluent in about 20+ languages, and/or read through around 800 pages of text. I’ve spoken German, Arabic, Spanish, French, and can say if you had to memorize every bad word from one to the other your head would probably explode. Best thing you can do is speak your native language and refrain from vulgarities and slang. If you haven’t noticed, gw2 forums (sometimes..) has more intellectual and well spoken players than in most other MMO’s I’ve ever played. Over in BLTC they are even discussing economics to a great detail. Granted I don’t like econ much, but it is interesting to see.

Geotherma.2395:

Haku.5068:

Dean Calaway.9718:

Haku.5068:

I am not a lawyer

Haku.5068:

I am not ok with another person using their moral compass to decide if what I said was acceptable for table talk

Haku.5068:

I don’t care if some random stranger saw that as offensive.

You see the problem here?

Haku.5068:

I know I said bad words in the presence of absolutely too many people.

Guessing you are talking about /map instead of /say right? And in Lion’s Arch?

Geotherma.2395:

What would reduce the 72 hour suspension by 100% would be people following the rules.

And that is problem solved.

And FYI, the profanity filter can pick up A LOT of words that aren’t profanity, specially if they’re in a foreign language, for example, you know in Albania the word for car is the same word used for “gentleman sausage”?
This happens between pretty much every language on the planet, normal words in one is a curse in another, and its really annoying when the filter kicks in, so people that turn it off aren’t exactly doing it so to hunt you down, nor are they violating any rules.

It was in /say in Heart of the Mists. Also I fail to see what my own personal opinion on mature language has to do with this matter. Do you not already have a filter on your everyday talk that nerfs your ability to say a massive number of words? I would consider it useful to know every word that could possibly offend someone even if they were speaking another language. Not for use against them, but for the purpose of avoiding them in everyday conversation. No one wants to accidentally make a kitten of themselves in what is supposed to be a casual discussion between two strangers.

“Also I fail to see what my own personal opinion on mature language has to do with this matter. "

Your opinion on what is acceptable does not coincide with Arenanets in game. Also some people remove filter because it unintentional could be blocking parts of chat, especially in different languages. And in order to know every offensive word you would have to be fluent in about 20+ languages, and/or read through around 800 pages of text. I’ve spoken German, Arabic, Spanish, French, and can say if you had to memorize every bad word from one to the other your head would probably explode. Best thing you can do is speak your native language and refrain from vulgarities and slang. If you haven’t noticed, gw2 forums (sometimes..) has more intellectual and well spoken players than in most other MMO’s I’ve ever played. Over in BLTC they are even discussing economics to a great detail. Granted I don’t like econ much, but it is interesting to see.

It’s not at all difficult to avoid those words. We’re doing it right now. What’s difficult is when you aren’t aware of what’s causing the blockage. Haku Sama for example caused me some frustration.

Haku.5068:

Geotherma.2395:

Haku.5068:

Dean Calaway.9718:

Haku.5068:

I am not a lawyer

Haku.5068:

I am not ok with another person using their moral compass to decide if what I said was acceptable for table talk

Haku.5068:

I don’t care if some random stranger saw that as offensive.

You see the problem here?

Haku.5068:

I know I said bad words in the presence of absolutely too many people.

Guessing you are talking about /map instead of /say right? And in Lion’s Arch?

Geotherma.2395:

What would reduce the 72 hour suspension by 100% would be people following the rules.

And that is problem solved.

And FYI, the profanity filter can pick up A LOT of words that aren’t profanity, specially if they’re in a foreign language, for example, you know in Albania the word for car is the same word used for “gentleman sausage”?
This happens between pretty much every language on the planet, normal words in one is a curse in another, and its really annoying when the filter kicks in, so people that turn it off aren’t exactly doing it so to hunt you down, nor are they violating any rules.

It was in /say in Heart of the Mists. Also I fail to see what my own personal opinion on mature language has to do with this matter. Do you not already have a filter on your everyday talk that nerfs your ability to say a massive number of words? I would consider it useful to know every word that could possibly offend someone even if they were speaking another language. Not for use against them, but for the purpose of avoiding them in everyday conversation. No one wants to accidentally make a kitten of themselves in what is supposed to be a casual discussion between two strangers.

“Also I fail to see what my own personal opinion on mature language has to do with this matter. "

Your opinion on what is acceptable does not coincide with Arenanets in game. Also some people remove filter because it unintentional could be blocking parts of chat, especially in different languages. And in order to know every offensive word you would have to be fluent in about 20+ languages, and/or read through around 800 pages of text. I’ve spoken German, Arabic, Spanish, French, and can say if you had to memorize every bad word from one to the other your head would probably explode. Best thing you can do is speak your native language and refrain from vulgarities and slang. If you haven’t noticed, gw2 forums (sometimes..) has more intellectual and well spoken players than in most other MMO’s I’ve ever played. Over in BLTC they are even discussing economics to a great detail. Granted I don’t like econ much, but it is interesting to see.

It’s not at all difficult to avoid those words. We’re doing it right now.

Exactly, and yet here we are in a thread where you got temp banned? Wasn’t that hard was it?

Pepole just need to stop being so bloody sensitive and pc,there are more impornant things to worry about!!!!!!!!!!!!!

tyrranis.8430:

Pepole just need to stop being so bloody sensitive and pc,there are more impornant things to worry about!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Have you ever heard of “the broken windows” theory of policing? Basically it states that when small matters, such as people breaking other people’s windows are not taken care of by society or by law enforcement, it’s a signal to people that they can behave as they wish with no repercussions. By addressing small matters, it keeps larger matters from developing. This is part of what ANet is doing by banning abusive language and profanity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broken_windows_theory

Do you ever read the official forum on WoW? People complaining how chat is filled with anal jokes, racist remarks, anti homosexual comments, profanity, etc…. People complain that they report people for making really nasty chat and nothing happens. Apparently Blizzard only hands out very mild sanctions which these people ignore. Maybe you don’t mind paying in a game where this is common in chat, but a lot of others do.

The problem with a “kitten” is that it grows up and becomes a “cat”. People using profanity in chat, it starts up as a small problem and and ends up a large one.

Astral Projections.7320:

tyrranis.8430:

Pepole just need to stop being so bloody sensitive and pc,there are more impornant things to worry about!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Have you ever heard of “the broken windows” theory of policing? Basically it states that when small matters, such as people breaking other people’s windows are not taken care of by society or by law enforcement, it’s a signal to people that they can behave as they wish with no repercussions. By addressing small matters, it keeps larger matters from developing. This is part of what ANet is doing by banning abusive language and profanity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broken_windows_theory

Do you ever read the official forum on WoW? People complaining how chat is filled with anal jokes, racist remarks, anti homosexual comments, profanity, etc…. People complain that they report people for making really nasty chat and nothing happens. Apparently Blizzard only hands out very mild sanctions which these people ignore. Maybe you don’t mind paying in a game where this is common in chat, but a lot of others do.

The problem with a “kitten” is that it grows up and becomes a “cat”. People using profanity in chat, it starts up as a small problem and and ends up a large one.

This part needs to be stickied somewhere for epic factor :P

Astral Projections.7320:

tyrranis.8430:

Pepole just need to stop being so bloody sensitive and pc,there are more impornant things to worry about!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Have you ever heard of “the broken windows” theory of policing? Basically it states that when small matters, such as people breaking other people’s windows are not taken care of by society or by law enforcement, it’s a signal to people that they can behave as they wish with no repercussions. By addressing small matters, it keeps larger matters from developing. This is part of what ANet is doing by banning abusive language and profanity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broken_windows_theory

Do you ever read the official forum on WoW? People complaining how chat is filled with anal jokes, racist remarks, anti homosexual comments, profanity, etc…. People complain that they report people for making really nasty chat and nothing happens. Apparently Blizzard only hands out very mild sanctions which these people ignore. Maybe you don’t mind paying in a game where this is common in chat, but a lot of others do.

The problem with a “kitten” is that it grows up and becomes a “cat”. People using profanity in chat, it starts up as a small problem and and ends up a large one.

WoW’s trade chat is renown for being a toilet. No amount of chat bans is going to stop a 13 year old with a taste for bad language from getting himself an infraction. The only real difference is that in WoW the bans are less harsh and you’re very aware of how many chances you have left. It starts with chat bans and escalates from there. If enough people report someone for inappropriate language they WILL be automatically chat banned same as in Guild Wars 2. Furthermore, WoW’s trade chat is SERVER WIDE and on by DEFAULT. Meaning it has thousands more people viewing it at any one time than ANY channel in Guild Wars 2. It’s on a level that I’m very grateful Guild Wars 2 doesn’t try to achieve. As useful as a server wide channel would be, no matter what game it’s done in, people will abuse it to the point where you’re desensitized to all the spam.

Right now I could go into LA region chat and strike up a conversation with a few pals. With no curse words said it would eventually degrade into angry traders telling you to chat in party or guild chat. Not even a minute after pretending they don’t exist I don’t doubt that one of them would say something inappropriate. GG, 72 hour suspension for them. That entire scenario is possible even if it is a kitten move. By the way, the day I was suspended I got a tell from a stranger asking me to report someone who was in Heart of the Mists for inappropriate language. I don’t expect you to believe me or care, but GMs have access to chat. Some people are terrible, and the system goes both ways.

We are so off topic. By the way, this wasn’t even a discussion, merely a suggestion. I appreciate the opinions however.