Guild Wars 2

Getting REALLLYkitten off with not being able to catch certain professions because they have insane passive run speed increases that other professions dont have.

They can just literally run away.

On my guardian, I can stun them, chain them and use GS5, but still, they can make it away, not through beign more skilled, just because they can run faster…..

I am sick of seeing people at 10-15% health disappearing into the distance because I lack a passive run speed increase and lack a decent ranged weapon.

Giving one prof a 33% passive movement speed incease and another prof no increase is shockingly bad game design.

And you have no gap closers? Or means to grant swiftness to yourself?

Crise.9401:

And you have no gap closers? Or means to grant swiftness to yourself?

yes I do, but not 100% uptime on them, and people can avoid them by dodging, using CDs and skills and so on.

If its a case of they outplayed me, fine. But its not, its a case of they get owned, then they get to run away at a stupidly fast speed.

Wrong!!!!!!!!

Thats part of what prof you choose in the first place. As i play thief thats my main objective to run in run out hit hard and dont get caught. LOL so now in your world im unable to break distance from chasers. Rubbish bring on better threads this ones had a grilling and is done! “Medium Rare”

learn to snare more :|

I dont mean to be rude, but thats why as a guardian have a “rush to target” skill and snares and such also range skill.

This game much like its predecessor isn’t a, COME HERE AND LET ME SMITE YOU WITH MY BIG SCARY WEAPON…
Its a… catch me if you wanna hit me with that big scary weapon mister tee hee run away kind of thing.

How is it bad game design?
Sure this professions have a speed advantage, but ur guardian have another advantage (for instance Heavy armor and high passive armor)

loads of competitive games have different advantages and disadvantages for different classes/characters, this include higher speed.

But sure I understand how u feel, just like I get annoyed playing DotA and a antimage can outrun me and also teleport away from me (with a 6sec CD)

However this forces me to use different strategies to kill an antimage.

Just like you might have to change ur build and strategy to kill some1 with, for instance swiftness.

Shadowborn.3529:

Wrong!!!!!!!!

Thats part of what prof you choose in the first place. As i play thief thats my main objective to run in run out hit hard and dont get caught. LOL so now in your world im unable to break distance from chasers. Rubbish bring on better threads this ones had a grilling and is done! “Medium Rare”

its not skillful to run in nuke one buttonthen bugger off if you fail to get a kill.

And I dont care if you use abilities and so on to outpace me, but a passive 33% move increase is just too powerful

Komuflage.2307:

How is it bad game design?
Sure this professions have a speed advantage, but ur guardian have another advantage (for instance Heavy armor and high passive armor)

Um what? you know armour makes very little differnce in this game right?

And boons are short not 100% uptime like a passive…..

Rizzy.8293:

learn to snare more :|

I dont mean to be rude, but thats why as a guardian have a “rush to target” skill and snares and such also range skill.

This game much like its predecessor isn’t a, COME HERE AND LET ME SMITE YOU WITH MY BIG SCARY WEAPON…
Its a… catch me if you wanna hit me with that big scary weapon mister tee hee run away kind of thing.

Try it sometime, even using GS5, S3, stun and with GS4, and saveyourself for speed, its impossible to catch classes with 33% speed increases.

May not be so bad if scepter was not lame as kitten as a ranged weapon, wheere a 33% increase in speed means you are faster than my projectiles…….

They should just call the thief class into Cowards,run in get a few hits,nearly get themselves killed,quickly dissapear,try again dissapear again,and only dare coming back with their full team,i think its hilarious tbh.

@Cameirus.8407
Okay maybe its a valid issue if I can outrun your project lol, but I tell you what I want to be done with the Guardian, that thing you have when you are downed, skill 2, needs to not a bomb. Even engies get that at sill 3 XP

Rizzy.8293:

@Cameirus.8407
Okay maybe its a valid issue if I can outrun your project lol, but I tell you what I want to be done with the Guardian, that thing you have when you are downed, skill 2, needs to not a bomb. Even engies get that at sill 3 XP

ok, so its balanced that I cant catch anyone but skill2 when downed is annoying to you…btw its only a knockback, its not like other profs dont have a defensice skill2 when downed…oh wait they all do.

I dont mind losing fights, I dont mind you playing better and being able to outdistance me…I mind that a passive ability is so powerful and only available to some professions.

Its like some profs get a passive “mount” whilst others have to foot slog!

You know, in a game with only team based PvP, if a thief or whatever other profession is wasting his efforts on you and needs to run from you in the end. That is you having done your job. You wasted his time and did not get killed, sure you did not get a kill either, but in a team scenario driving/keeping a player off a point or wasting their time is a win in its own right.

You can’t catch anyone, passive speed boost proc from utility skills, meaning they are using up an utility slot for mobility instead of something offensive and for the record, afaik only elementalists and thiefs have passive speed bonus in signets. Neither are exactly in the same level of durability as your guardian I am afraid.

Crise.9401:

You know, in a game with only team based PvP, if a thief or whatever other profession is wasting his efforts on you and needs to run from you in the end. That is you having done your job. You wasted his time and did not get killed, sure you did not get a kill either, but in a team scenario driving/keeping a player off a point or wasting their time is a win in its own right.

You can’t catch anyone, passive speed boost proc from utility skills, meaning they are using up an utility slot for mobility instead of something offensive and for the record, afaik only elementalists and thiefs have passive speed bonus in signets. Neither are exactly in the same level of durability as your guardian I am afraid.

and engineers, ok its kit switching, but its 100% uptime.

Engineers can’t stand a nuke like guardians can

I’d just like to mention that the passive speed increase is 25%, not 33%.
Apart from that, the guardian has a lot of movement impeding abilities like walls, snares and the like, try experimenting with them.
Speed and mobility are pretty much the defining characteristics of the thief in this game, I don’t see any problem with them having a passive speed boost in exchange for a utility slot.

Characters in heavy armor should be slower than those on light…

Azaziel.3608:

Characters in heavy armor should be slower than those on light…

If you start like that ..then..Norn should have 1000+ power compared to asurans and humans because they are so huge.Norn’s hit with a Great sword should cut an asuran in half with one hit..etc etc.

What about Retreat the skill? It makes you run faster for a short time, it’s always on my bar. It’s not just for running away, it’s also to rush to mobs and people. It’s always on my bar.

Caedmon.6798:

Azaziel.3608:

Characters in heavy armor should be slower than those on light…

If you start like that ..then..Norn should have 1000+ power compared to asurans and humans because they are so huge.Norn’s hit with a Great sword should cut an asuran in half with one hit..etc etc.

and wouldn’t that be fun? lol