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Posted by: Oliver.7201

Oliver.7201

Mesmers have some really cool utility skill types ranging from: glamour to manipulation, from clones to mantras but our elites seem to have skipped this trend and gone for some less popular options, in fact none at all. I know many other classes also have the same deal, elites not having a utility type, but I also know most other classes have elite signets or such; that tie in with themes and builds.

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    The Mesmer elites do not tie in with any build or theme, and I wouldn’t mind so much that they don’t; but not having at least one, not even for mantras a Mesmer unique skill is a bit saddening. An overview of what a Mesmer has:
    - Moa morph: Fun rating 10/10, Useful? In pvp yes, in wvw 50/50, in PvE no
    - Time Warp: Fun rating 10/10, Useful? When is it not.
    - Mass invisibility: Don’t get me started
    So Mass invisibility, 5 people, 5 seconds Elite material? Well I prefer Veil. Whats Veil? As many who can get through in 6 seconds, last 4 and is a combo field, PLUS its a glamour which can be traited to do even more. I tried using mass invisibility in pvp, but veil or torch 4 could do better. I tried using it in wvw, but it doesn’t last long enough to be viable for anything. I tried using it in PvE, again I don’t need to make 5 people invisible might as well use the torch or veil.
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My suggestion would be to remove mass-invisibility and replace it with something that ties in better with other utilities, Maybe a mantra or a signet. Or and this is a big OR, make it a more viable option over veil. Buff the time, the people, the anything; make it glamour, make it cripple, make it reveal other invisible people, make it something unique, interesting and exciting. For anyone else reading this please post your suggests for a replacement or buff to the skill, please help fix a redundant elite.

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Posted by: Runiir.6425

Runiir.6425

Honestly, mass invisibility should be removed for a mantra that is a 900 radius burst centered on the mesmer, all invisible people (ally and enemy) are instantly revealed and incapable of restealthing for 6 seconds. Using this prevents the mesmer from stealthing for 6 seconds.

No one could ever say that this would be pointless, and the detrimental effect of hitting your allies prevents it from being overpowered and fill a niche ability desperately needed…a counter to stealth.

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Posted by: TCChris.9584

TCChris.9584

I’d love a Mantra of Nullification that leads to Power Vortex. I would work like Null Field except it is player centred, actually (instantly) rips boons and conditions including stealth in the area instead of just saying it does in the tool tip.
The animation could be similar to the vortex Aquatic Spear skill, if the devs didn’t want to put too much effort in ;-)

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Posted by: Navi.7142

Navi.7142

For pve Signet of Illusionary Haste
passive: gives you (and your illusions) 25 % speed boost
active: you root in place, become invulnerable for 3 seconds and cripples up to five foes around you. (or something comparable, I just remembered the sylvari race elite)

Something like this and I would love to replace my balthazar’s hounds immediately. ^^

EDIT: Oh and they can throw out all mesmer’s elites. I don’t use them.

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Posted by: Runiir.6425

Runiir.6425

For pve Signet of Illusionary Haste
passive: gives you (and your illusions) 25 % speed boost
active: you root in place, become invulnerable for 3 seconds and cripples up to five foes around you. (or something comparable, I just remembered the sylvari race elite)

Something like this and I would love to replace my balthazar’s hounds immediately. ^^

Mesmers aren’t likely to ever recieve a perminant speed boost signet as your defense and ability to run is already on par with thieves, just keep spitting out clones as you go to slow people down. Or go bunker and just wear down 3 people at a time.

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Posted by: Navi.7142

Navi.7142

PVE………… -.-
(and it’s not only for fights, for example good for exploration and all the other stuff.. if you play a mesmer and your friend plays an ele, thief or ranger and you want to explore a map, you either will slow down your group or just see your friend from a far distance)

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Posted by: GummiBear.2756

GummiBear.2756

For pve Signet of Illusionary Haste
passive: gives you (and your illusions) 25 % speed boost
active: you root in place, become invulnerable for 3 seconds and cripples up to five foes around you. (or something comparable, I just remembered the sylvari race elite)

Something like this and I would love to replace my balthazar’s hounds immediately. ^^

Mesmers aren’t likely to ever recieve a perminant speed boost signet as your defense and ability to run is already on par with thieves, just keep spitting out clones as you go to slow people down. Or go bunker and just wear down 3 people at a time.

Ehh yeah we may have good incombat mobility, but the OUT-OF-COMBAT mobility of a mesmer STINKS, or rather is not even there at all

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Posted by: Anatolian Turk.4057

Anatolian Turk.4057

Ehh yeah we may have good incombat mobility, but the OUT-OF-COMBAT mobility of a mesmer STINKS, or rather is not even there at all

i agree.

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Posted by: Kenage Achalarus.4276

Kenage Achalarus.4276

Mesmers have one of the best elite skills.
Time warp: emediatlly bubble that grants quickness.

but with that being said i would love to see for an elite skill
Signet of illusions: Signate passive grants one extra illusan slot. active shatter all your illusan doing damage and confusion bases on amount of illusan you shatter. cool down 210seconds.
i cant beleave they didnt add this to the game. or rather the elite skill from gw1. i was a mesmer in GW1 and i ran this elite skill along with simple thievery.

Simple thievery. interupt foe this skill becomes the skill used by foe. duratation 10 seconds cool down 150 seconds.

it be fun to steal a warriors 100 blades if your using a great sword.

a Mesmer with a Greatsword [Confusion], your mind has been [Mind Wrack]

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Posted by: GummiBear.2756

GummiBear.2756

Mesmers have one of the best elite skills.
Time warp: emediatlly bubble that grants quickness.

but with that being said i would love to see for an elite skill
Signet of illusions: Signate passive grants one extra illusan slot. active shatter all your illusan doing damage and confusion bases on amount of illusan you shatter. cool down 210seconds.
i cant beleave they didnt add this to the game. or rather the elite skill from gw1. i was a mesmer in GW1 and i ran this elite skill along with simple thievery.

Simple thievery. interupt foe this skill becomes the skill used by foe. duratation 10 seconds cool down 150 seconds.

it be fun to steal a warriors 100 blades if your using a great sword.

Who in their right mind would use that active part, 15points in illusion line and a mind wrack would do just that while also allowing you to keep your 4th slot. and well tbh a 4th slot as good as permanent would be a bit OP really, with illusionary persona that means potentially 5 shatters (4 illusions+yourself) and with that you already are bound to have the illusionary retribution which would be no less than 10 confusion stack from a single cry of frustration. that is just WAY op. However having it as a temporary effect (say for 15-20 seconds maybe or something like that, with a hefty cd, think 200sec+) could be an interesting idea

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Posted by: g e o.2589

g e o.2589

Nah i’m happy with it. Moamorph is extremely useful for 1v1, especially with thieves, and TIme warp is best for group, but that mass invisibility? Veil is 1k times better, they can just delete it