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Posted by: Sunju.8310

Sunju.8310

Disclaimer: Purple is my favourite colour, I’ve experimented plenty and actually like Lepidoptera in reality. Any posts regarding sexuality, insecurity or anything other than genuine consideration for the subject is a sign of your own failed life and is not a reflection of me or this thread.

The Mesmer is a unique, amazingly fun and very inventive class. It’s easily one of the most interesting in MMORPG history. The F# abilities are a bit gimmicky, but are acceptable. When it’s all said and done, this class gets an A+. However, this being an RPG, the cloud of hyper-ephemeral pink and purple butterflies that my clones dissolve into breaks immersion for me. I imagine it does for plenty of other people who have just decided not to play the Mesmer. That’s very unfortunate. RPGs thrive on immersion, it’s a role playing game, the whole point is to immerse oneself into a role!

While many people are obviously amenable to the little buggers, and others outright adore them, I have yet to see any lore or symbolic purpose for them that justifies their existence. Especially for something that’s at the core of the class, I can’t just write it off as a silly ability. It’s what my clones are made of! This kind of thing irks me as it doesn’t fit. Every time I see them I just think “Why?”. What reason do they exist for? Are they part of the profession’s psychological warfare? Is this trolling made into a profession mechanic? If not than what do they symbolize? It’s like a flag has been attached to the end of my clone’s lives that says “Silly game! Silly game!” instead of “Awesome illusion magic!”

My suggestion is this: Considering some people already have FPS issues, regardless of their high end system (always happens in MMOs), why not add an option which turns off superfluous spell effects? Or give Mesmers an option in character creation or in game that turns them off? Everyone who wants the butterflies can have them. Those that don’t can do without

Obviously an enormous, burgeoning game has way more important stuff to do, probably for the next year, but that doesn’t meant this suggestion shouldn’t be made now. This also isn’t a demand to see it implemented, especially not anytime soon. Like just about everyone else,I’d rather more endgame content was added, game breaking bugs / exploits removed and FUN class tweaks made (for gods sake don’t remove the fun in order to create balance -_- That’s just a terrible path).

Maybe make the option one of a spate of graphical implements one can buy on the gem market. Give us a “spell colour palette” too while you’re at it ;3 Making the ethereal purple into orange, especially if I can make it orange and blue, would be fun It’d probably have to be reset to default colours whenever entering PvP, but that’s fine imo.

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P.S. For those with a kitten for leaping without properly looking: My suggestions are purely personal, aesthetic and would have no effect on anyone else. There’s nothing for you to defend. Everything would stay exactly the same for you.

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Posted by: GADefence.5634

GADefence.5634

Purple has always kind of been the class colour.

Mesmers were originally heavy based on Lyssa (GW1), and her colour was also purple/pink. Most mesmer hexes (ex: soothing images) dropped purple/pink auras (soothing images in specific was purple/pink butterflies)

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Posted by: Invictus.1503

Invictus.1503

I like purple and the butterfly. Purple is historically the color of royalty and the mesmer has been a class that has always been more aristocratic/nobility oriented and theatrical. Butterflies also embody a very colorful nature.

It also works into the chaos theme as butterflies represent the “Chaos Theory.” They have also evolved a misdirection and confusion style of defense in nature with their patterns serving multiple purposes (depending on species).

In addition, as GADefence pointed out, the colors are associated with Lyssa who is the patron of the human mesmer in GW1 and therefore carried into GW2.

It’s better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.

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Posted by: Hydrophidian.4319

Hydrophidian.4319

Mesmers deal in magic, magic deals in symbols. The symbol of the thing is the thing, manipulate the symbol, manipulate the thing. Sympathetic magic, true names… it’s all about symbolism.

For humans, the magic of the Mesmer is Lyssan. Lyssa no doubt likes butterflies, as they represent beauty, metamorphosis, misdirection and presentation… everything she’s about. Thus, they manifest in the use of her magic.

In Norn terms the Spirit of Butterfly (“spirit” as personification of concept) would still represent all things Mesmer. This could effectively apply to Sylvari was well, with Butterfly as Dream Totem.

For Asura, the resonance between the alchemical essence of butterflies and Mesmer magic should be obvious to anyone paying attention to the Eternal Alchemy.

Charr… I got nuthin’. For charr Mesmers, they should probably manifest as moths or somethin’, I dunno. Though it could be said that the connection and symbolism is so strong amongst the other races of Tyria, it just can’t be avoided, even by those who don’t necessarily make that connection. It’s lodged into the mass subconscious.

Anyways, point is, there’s actually a great deal of basis for the butterfly manifestation. At the very least, it’s something for a mage to ICly wonder about and explore… and maybe even complain about.

“Such power and yet… those infuriating butterflies! I will find a way to rid myself of those emasculating notions, I swear! Lyssa, I beg of you, spare me your superfluous embellishments! Or make them… harlequin masks! Anything but those horrid butterflies!”

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Posted by: Blacklight.2871

Blacklight.2871

Is any other Mesmer finding their sense of immersion threatened by Lyssa’s pink butterflies? This is the first I’ve heard of it.

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Posted by: Hydrophidian.4319

Hydrophidian.4319

Is any other Mesmer finding their sense of immersion threatened by Lyssa’s pink butterflies? This is the first I’ve heard of it.

I can see it being an issue for certain character concepts, but only because of this point made by the OP:

“I have yet to see any lore or symbolic purpose for them that justifies their existence.”

…but, as I and others have pointed out, there’s actually plenty of viable justification. It’s just not explicitly stated anywhere (to my knowledge).