Mounts needed in the game now.
I do not think the waypoints are remotely responsible for this nor would mounts help. Waypoints are instant they do not keep you out of the zone for more than a few seconds so their effect is minimal on activity levels. There does need to be more done to encourage people that low level zones are an option for their max level characters. However, mounts just aren’t going to do that no one will return to a zone just because they can now run through it on a mount.
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I do not think the waypoints are remotely responsible for this nor would mounts help. Waypoints are instant they do not keep you out of the zone for more than a few seconds so their effect is minimal on activity levels. There does need to be more done to encourage people that low level zones are an option for their max level characters. However, mounts just aren’t going to do that no one will return to a zone just because they can now run through it on a mount.
I would return to lower level zones just because it would be nice to ride around through it but to be honest I wouldnt be running on foot around areas that Ive already uncovered I would just teleport there which doesn’t seem like exploring anymore, its just getting from point A to point B in a matter of seconds then finish what you have to do and teleport somewhere else and this is my theory of whats causing alot of zones to look empty. I really think that mounts would help alot, I know that alot of people are against it as I once was but I think people are against it because they want to be too different from the other game. The fact is though it doesn’t break the game in anyway and I think that mounts appeal to alot more people then the ones that don’t want it.
The thing I HATE about mounts and especially if the system is such that, there’s different (and thus better and better) mounts, is that many high level people will be seen riding them around. In low level places too and it happened in SWTOR. I always thought it sucked so bad.
" I think it greatly increases the chances that they will stop and help with an event which would fix the problem for people saying that the de’s have died down in certain areas."
I don’t see that as the case. As a matter of fact it would be quite the opposite.
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" I think it greatly increases the chances that they will stop and help with an event which would fix the problem for people saying that the de’s have died down in certain areas."
I don’t see that as the case. As a matter of fact it would be quite the opposite.
This is were I would disagree because I would stop and help if I happen to be roaming around on my mount and the De is right next to me.
I dont get your theory on how it would have the opposite effect? If the zones are empty there would be nobody there to help with a DE. My theory is if there are people riding around in the area there would be higher chance that they will stop..
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I just do not believe after the first hour of having a mount you are actually going to go to low level zones just to ‘go for a ride’ as it were. Even if you do I think ver very few people will join you in that pursuit. There needs to be something more rewarding to take people back to lower level zones.
Rocking on Piken Square – the un-official EU roleplay server.
If waypoints were free, It wouldn’t matter much to me. Since your only option is spending money(gold sink for the impatient) or walking (yes I know there are free gates) forever, I wouldn’t mind a mount to wisk me around maps and avoid the mobs (flash mobs because they respawn like they were the ‘Flash’) when all I want to do is get from one place to the other.
And yes I would get off the horse and and help/join in as I rode around.
This is were I would disagree because I would stop and help if I happen to be roaming around on my mount and the De is right next to me.
I dont get your theory on how it would have the opposite effect? If the zones are empty there would be nobody there to help with a DE. My theory is if there are people riding around in the area there would be higher chance that they will stop..
I applaud you for being a contributing player and helping out others. but I don’t think that people are going to be enticed to do lower level DE’s if they have a mount at lvl 80. I know I wouldn’t. :X Hey, at least I’m being honest.
Only use I could see is to make 100% World Exploration easier. I know that’s what I would use it for.
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I just do not believe after the first hour of having a mount you are actually going to go to low level zones just to ‘go for a ride’ as it were. Even if you do I think ver very few people will join you in that pursuit. There needs to be something more rewarding to take people back to lower level zones.
Ok I agree that there needs to be a reason but lets just say mounts are available at level 80.. Now all the higher end players can come out and help or do some kind of achievments in the lower level zones if new things are added. I just think that mounts would encourage players more to be in these zones not to mention that having a mount is a sense of achievement which seperates the look of a level 80 compared to the other levels. It is also a business strategy imo because like I said I do believe that mounts appeal to more people than the ones that are against it. Of course I could never prove that on these forums but I just cant see how it would due more harm than good. The thing is having a mount is a choice, it doesnt affect anything in my opinon because if you don’t want it then play the way your playing right now and just teleport wherever you want. The people that want to ride will ride and the people that dont want to wont.
I do think there are arguements for mounts, I just do not think that encouraging people into lower levels is one of them. I am not against mounts nor am I pro them I am very much a fence sitter! I just think the arguements for and against need to be clear and real.
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not this malarkey again…
No, for all the reasons mentioned in the numerous other threads… People really need to use the search function before posting the same topic over and over.
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I do think there are arguements for mounts, I just do not think that encouraging people into lower levels is one of them. I am not against mounts nor am I pro them I am very much a fence sitter! I just think the arguements for and against need to be clear and real.
I tried to make it as clear and real as possible. Some of the zones are ghost towns and I brought up that the reason why is because people probably dont want to be running around on foot again and have nothing to really do there. Now what Im saying is that if mounts were available then maybe people would just ride around just because it would be a different experience which would create more people in empty zones and im not saying that this would encourage people do go there for DE’s but I think there is a pretty good chance they will stop and do a DE if they are riding around in the area and happen to see one.
My key points
1. This would help fill empty zones because nobody is going to do a mount achievment and just stay in one spot. They will ride around and you should see zones that are ghost towns with people riding increasing the chances of helping with DE’s in these zones.
2. The sense of achievment for players that want this.
3. Business move, this will probably bring back players that have left because they want to see what its all about. This will also encourage sales because I’m sure many people know its a good game but the fact that there was no mounts put them off. Now if you can bring back the people that left and bring in a ton of new players than this would also increase the zone population and would also put more money in the devs pocket and in return we get more and more content and all it would take is to add one thing to the game.
I really dont see why you’re comlaining. Every class has a passive move speed or a way to nearly perma swift.
How much faster would you want a mount to go? 50% 100%?
I really dont see why you’re comlaining. Every class has a passive move speed or a way to nearly perma swift.
How much faster would you want a mount to go? 50% 100%?
Im not complaining, its a suggestion. If you see my key points this could have a positive chain effect not to mention more people means more people buying from the gemstore too. Its a suggestion that brings more income to anet and adds more for the players.
Even at a 33% speed boost, i just don’t see people riding mounts to get across more than one map. I can’t see them going much higher with speed and in many other games that do have mounts people typically use them to get passed a bunch of stuff that’s going on quickly, really no reason to stop and do a DE if they are trying to meet a buddy at a dungeon entrance or get to their current farming route.
If zones are too vacant, it’s more about the game design than it is about traveling in and of itself. It simply just doesn’t fix the things you’ve mentioned, given my experience using mounts in games that have them. Most MMO’s are plagued with vacant lower level areas. There needs to be a better reason for higher level folks to go there than adding mounts. The only thing that draws people into lower level areas now is farming crafting mats or doing jumping puzzles they missed.
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Even at a 33% speed boost, i just don’t see people riding mounts to get across more than one map. I can’t see them going much higher with speed and in many other games that do have mounts people typically use them to get passed a bunch of stuff that’s going on quickly, really no reason to stop and do a DE if they are trying to meet a buddy at a dungeon entrance or get to their current farming route.
If zones are too vacant, it’s more about the game design than it is about traveling in and of itself. It simply just doesn’t fix the things you’ve mentioned, given my experience using mounts in games that have them. Most MMO’s are plagued with vacant lower level areas. There needs to be a better reason for higher level folks to go there than adding mounts. The only thing that draws people into lower level areas now is farming crafting mats or doing jumping puzzles they missed.
There needs to be things added of course at the same time that mounts would come out. Now if you look at my key points I don’t see how it would ruin the game at its current state. All I can do is make a suggestion as I am a business minded person:). Its basically something that I can see which I would pull the trigger on. It does good for sales and good for the players that want it without taking anything away from the players who are fine with the way things are.
1. This would help fill empty zones because nobody is going to do a mount achievment and just stay in one spot. They will ride around and you should see zones that are ghost towns with people riding increasing the chances of helping with DE’s in these zones.
2. The sense of achievment for players that want this.
3. Business move, this will probably bring back players that have left because they want to see what its all about. This will also encourage sales because I’m sure many people know its a good game but the fact that there was no mounts put them off. Now if you can bring back the people that left and bring in a ton of new players than this would also increase the zone population and would also put more money in the devs pocket and in return we get more and more content and all it would take is to add one thing to the game. More people means more people buying at the gem store and this also gives more to the players.
If you want to get even more deep if mounts came out I would add mount skins that people can buy with gems which lets you customize the appearance of your mount. Maybe adding accessories and armor to it. I don’t think there is a game that lets you customize your mount " I could be wrong". But I’m willing to bet people would be buying gems for that. Ok I’m pretty much done with my suggestion. Its up to the devs and how they see things.
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First off, let me say i’m not against the idea, but in turn see no real business reason to put the time, money, and effort into adding mounts to a game that in no way supports that system at the design level. I can’t possibly imagine people left the game or refuse to buy the game based solely on the fact that mounts aren’t present.
There are actually a very large amounts of achievements already in the game, sure adding mounts would add an extra option, but again, at what cost.
Finally, an example for the mounts not helping fill a zone. I’d pull out a mount to cross a zone, but since i’m already in that zone doing stuff anyway, it’s not going to pull me in to doing a DE i happen to stumble across while i’m traveling to my destination. Granted your mileage may very, but given that i’ve seen how people use mounts in other games, i’d say it’s more likely the norm than the exception. One big reason i hated WoW was travel time, i certainly don’t want to spend 20 minutes getting somewhere. Of course that would never be an issue with GW2, do to fast travel, but i would take the long distance fast travel over riding a mount at even 100% faster.
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First off, let me say i’m not against the idea, but in turn see no real business reason to put the time, money, and effort into adding mounts to a game that in no way supports that system at the design level. I can’t possibly imagine people left the game or refuse to buy the game based solely on the fact that mounts aren’t present.
There are actually a very large amounts of achievements already in the game, sure adding mounts would add an extra option, but again, at what cost.
Finally, an example for the mounts not helping fill a zone. I’d pull out a mount to cross a zone, but since i’m already in that zone doing stuff anyway, it’s not going to pull me in to doing a DE i happen to stumble across while i’m traveling to my destination. Granted your mileage may very, but given that i’ve seen how people use mounts in other games, i’d say it’s more likely the norm than the exception. One big reason i hated WoW was travel time, i certainly don’t want to spend 20 minutes getting somewhere. Of course that would never be an issue with GW2, do to fast travel, but i would take the long distance fast travel over riding a mount at even 100% faster.
Again.. This doesn’t take away from the players that are fine with the way things are " That includes you" your one of them which is why I believe this idea is good because it will have no affect on players like yourself. Now if you don’t think this would work then lets leave it a ghost town then for now. Im sure Anet will come up with something, I was just giving my suggestion, doesnt mean it will work but the fact is… Some zones are really empty and what better way to try and fill it up were you can do something and possibly make more money at the same time without ruining anything for players like yourself that dont want to ride around.
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