Guild Wars 2

Another post with most likely only me wanting this, Multi guilds is really dumb i mean my guild is primary WvW so if we arent WvW we let other plays scatter to other guilds but it is a Bloody pain to whisper every single person when we start going in to WvW. i want the Old Guild war ones system Where Guilds can do GvG and make alliances, i mean have alliances guilds can actully join have influence Split among your Guild and your ally guilds like 100% goes to your guild and 50% or 25% go to alliance guilds.

Again this is most likely stuff that only i want

I wouldn’t mind this.

I haven’t joined a guild yet because I’m still pretty new and looking for one that fits me, but I must admit that having come from other MMOs and never having played the first Guild Wars, having players allowed to join several guilds at the same time sounds like a really strange idea that I can’t say I’m a fan of.

In other MMOs, guilds are character based, not account based. As a roleplayer, I’ve had different characters in many different guilds. in EQ, I had my Dark Elf alts in a DE-only guild, etc etc.

The way GW2 does it is really no different. They still let you have different alts in different guilds – Like the example above, Racial RP guilds. Just that now, since it’s account based, you have a central screen from where you can manage which guilds each of your characters belongs to.

I want this……we have over 200 in our guild and around 1/2 are always representing various other guilds. Its really annoying and I think it is just dumb.

The old style of GW1 with the GvG should definitely still be a thing. It was more interesting and would cause a lot more involvement with your guild. You could still represent multiple guilds and just work things out with when you are going to be representing each guild.

On the other note of having alliances instead of multiple guilds, that should also be considered because it’s kind of meh to be in multiple guilds, there is no real point to it, compared to just quiting one guild and joining another to represent them, it’s almost the same thing. Sure each of your guilds get a little bit of influence for you logging in, but come one like 4 inf? not really anything. Alliances would make PvP a lot more interesting because you would have even larger organizations and get people even more involved.

Starkness.5274:

I want this……we have over 200 in our guild and around 1/2 are always representing various other guilds. Its really annoying and I think it is just dumb.

Make your guild more interesting and promote play and cooperation within your guild and you’ll be surprised how many people choose to represent/play your guild. It’s like cheating in a marriage. You go somewhere else to get something you can’t get at home.

I think it’s a GREAT idea, that skips on drama, and actually allows us more free choice in what and whom we play with.

Rather have the Fun i had in Gw1 with Guild battles and alliances

Like seriously, I hate having to tell people to represent again. Being able to switching Represent doesnt promote loyalty either.

My guild have like 250 people and probably 200 always Represent it. It’s a matter of being interesting.

MilkInBags.5136:

My guild have like 250 people and probably 200 always Represent it. It’s a matter of being interesting.

This all the way. I think this new system will give a very new outlook on how your guild is doing. I’ve joined several guilds thus far where they’ve tried to sound like they’re something good and fun, and then its just quiet all day. No sort of cooperation or planning by the guild leader, just make a guild for the sake of having it and claim to “eventually” do things.

If you’re going to lead a guild and invite others on the basis of certain promises and plans you will fulfill, then deliver. I can understand people sort of wanting to do their own thing, but a graveyard chat is never exciting in a guild, and players shouldn’t be representing you if another guild is better. But if the guild they are in tries to be as dynamic and fun as the world they are playing in, then you’re far more likely to keep their representation.

And if you’re really gonna be anal about it, then just make it a requirement that they represent your guild or they will be removed. You’ll still get the same results, dissatisfied players will simply leave the guild, as opposed to simply not representing it.

I agree with the OP completely.

I have two guilds, a WvW guild and a RL family/friends guild. Both of them are interesting but I can’t speak to both.

I don’t care if I have to represent one so one guild can get points, but I want to speak to both guilds at once.

runeblade.7514:

I agree with the OP completely.

I have two guilds, a WvW guild and a RL family/friends guild. Both of them are interesting but I can’t speak to both.

I don’t care if I have to represent one so one guild can get points, but I want to speak to both guilds at once.

yea its called guild war one alliance system talk to everyone at once dont gotta even rep if there was soemthin like this

The representation system makes no sense if you are a Guild Leader.

First off, if a person is not representing your guild, they DO NOT earn your guild any influence.

Secondly, if the person is not representing your guild, they DO NOT see guild chat.

I can see why people actively involved in WvW who need pretty much ‘All hands on deck’ having to whisper to all who are not representing to either a) log in your main toon and WvW, or b) represent and join your guild in WvW.

Honestly, its more of a hassle than its worth. Do away with it. Make it either so that guilds are character based, or account based. NOt this wishy washy <explicative> that it is now.

ALSO!

Besides the whole influence part of it, one easy fix for the WvWvW chat system and organization is to have the whole freaking commander book cost like 1/100th of what it costs… I mean come on seriously? 100g for a skill that just allows you to make a squad?! WTF? that’s more expensive than a legendary weapon! Seriously make it way cheaper that way organizing PvP is 50x easier.

Teviko i love you

Lelantos.2758:

ALSO!

Besides the whole influence part of it, one easy fix for the WvWvW chat system and organization is to have the whole freaking commander book cost like 1/100th of what it costs… I mean come on seriously? 100g for a skill that just allows you to make a squad?! WTF? that’s more expensive than a legendary weapon! Seriously make it way cheaper that way organizing PvP is 50x easier.

he Means Base legendary btw

FlyingBear.5731:

MilkInBags.5136:

My guild have like 250 people and probably 200 always Represent it. It’s a matter of being interesting.

If you’re going to lead a guild and invite others on the basis of certain promises and plans you will fulfill, then deliver. I can understand people sort of wanting to do their own thing, but a graveyard chat is never exciting in a guild, and players shouldn’t be representing you if another guild is better. But if the guild they are in tries to be as dynamic and fun as the world they are playing in, then you’re far more likely to keep their representation.

First off, if you are not representing guild a, but representing guild b, how do you know guild a is quiet all the time?? If you switch representation and see that guild a is quiet, is that because its a down period for that guild? i.e people eating/sleeping/going to school? How do you know unless you represent them for a long enough period to know when peak population/chat times are.

Also, GW2 seems to promote a very solo-centric mentality in the game. I run a guild, and like you said, I made/make promises that our guild is going to be active in all aspects of the game.

However, I can only be as active as my guild is willing to participate.

If I say I am doing dungeons and noone comes, its not my fault, I made the effort.
If I do WvW and invite guildies to come, and they don’t, I still have delved into an aspect of teh game I voiced that I would be doing.

Also, there are a lot fo administrative aspects to running a guild, and the pressure, as GL to be a froe-runner in the game and be knowledgable about all asepcts of the game. The heavy beta testers that have been playing GW2 since closed beta have a leg up, while those who prepurchased are still muddling through the nitty gritty details.

Cosmo.8176:

Make your guild more interesting and promote play and cooperation within your guild and you’ll be surprised how many people choose to represent/play your guild. It’s like cheating in a marriage. You go somewhere else to get something you can’t get at home.

I think it’s a GREAT idea, that skips on drama, and actually allows us more free choice in what and whom we play with.

Agree with this.

The current system, which allows people to rep at-will, means guilds have to focus on quality over quantity.

However, I wouldn’t mind a few tweaks. For example: allowing multiple chat channels for different guilds (so you can participate in more than one chat — this would solve some of the issues listed above). It would also help if the “Message of the Day” would display fully in the guild summary (and follow the same line-breaks or even allow some formatting: bold, italics, and bullets). This would make it easier for guilds to keep members informed without forcing people to visit external websites.

I like very much the multi guild system.
You can stay in a guild for some activities, and representing another one for different activities.
It lets you decide which one really suits you, which in the end you will represent 90%+ of time.
It is also more realistic, like i hope every one have IRL different circles of friends, known people, co-worker, etc

you can jump around reping other guilds all you want again its pain for the officers and Leaders to keep track of what characters and alt in a differnet guild and what character of that player is in your guild just show eve if they dont change it add in when that char last reped and what char he join your guild on

host.8120:

you can jump around reping other guilds all you want again its pain for the officers and Leaders to keep track of what characters and alt in a differnet guild and what character of that player is in your guild just show eve if they dont change it add in when that char last reped and what char he join your guild on

All characters are in every guild, you actually join the guild with your account rather than with a character, which is also another godsend.

host.8120:

Rather have the Fun i had in Gw1 with Guild battles and alliances

Exactly my problem as well.. Have 2x 500 Member guilds and keep needing to tell people if you don’t represent you just take space and i’ll need to remove you, this “Representing” more than one guild is realy lame.

Shirou.4098:

host.8120:

Rather have the Fun i had in Gw1 with Guild battles and alliances

Exactly my problem as well.. Have 2x 500 Member guilds and keep needing to tell people if you don’t represent you just take space and i’ll need to remove you, this “Representing” more than one guild is realy lame.

Yes Exactly! Guildies are getting mad at me for saying the same thing!

or you they just leave when you ask if there in multi guilds even if you werent gonan kick em

Problem is.. more and more guild leaders are telling the members if you not gonna represent us then you will be kicked.. so why do we even have a “Represent” other guild option, most Guild Leaders don’t wanna allow members to be in other guilds that might be there enemy.

Shirou.4098:

Problem is.. more and more guild leaders are telling the members if you not gonna represent us then you will be kicked.. so why do we even have a “Represent” other guild option, most Guild Leaders don’t wanna allow members to be in other guilds that might be there enemy.

I kick people that dont want to represent. Why you may ask? There is no point in joining a guild if you are going to represent another.

Handies.7602:

Shirou.4098:

Problem is.. more and more guild leaders are telling the members if you not gonna represent us then you will be kicked.. so why do we even have a “Represent” other guild option, most Guild Leaders don’t wanna allow members to be in other guilds that might be there enemy.

I kick people that dont want to represent. Why you may ask? There is no point in joining a guild if you are going to represent another.

True! now the members just don’t understand it, and Anet made it worse for Guild Leaders, you kick those who don’t represent and people get mad and ask why, even though we have limited space in the guild and keep needing to tell them we need space for members who do wanna represent us only.

I’m completely against changing the guild system. It’s great as it is now.

I am a leader of a guild with about 80 players. 98% of those that are online at any given time are representing that guild (the few that aren’t ususally just didn’t click on represent yet when they’re on a new character), without any rule for it whatsoever.
Why?
Because we’re more than an ingame guild, we’re an active community. Simply being an ingame guild without much to back it up in terms of guild homepage/forum, TS server etc. just doesn’t cut it any more. If you want your members to represent, you have to actually invests ome work and offer them a reason to. I think it’s great, because it forms a stronger guild community when you can manage to do that.

I’m also member in 4 other guilds. They’re mostly community projects and WvW contact guilds meant to keep in touch with people outside my main guild, and RP guilds. I represent them when necessary only, because that’s what they’re meant for.

Now, if you want members to “only” represent your guild (which is kind of ridiculous, you don’t know what kind of guilds they’re in, it could be a personal account guild used for additional storage for all you know, they could just be accessing their own guild bank when they’re not representing, you don’t know this), nothing is stopping you from introducing a rule for that, is it? If you have any kind of website infrastructure backing your guild that wouldn’t be a problem.

I handle it differently. Let them represent other guilds sometimes, fine. We keep track of that, and if our members don’t represent us or interact with us for more than a month, it’s obvious they’re not members we’d want to have, so we’ll get rid of them.

The difficulty is really just finding players that are worth it. You probably wont find those by spamming guild ads in cities, but by actually making a name of yourself so that people WANT to join you. If they want to be in your guild, they’ll represent it. Simple as that.

The guild system doesn’t need changing.
The only thing that could use a change is for players to be able to see guild chat of a guild you’re not representing at the moment. I can get behind that.
And maybe an alliance system in the future, fine with me.
Other than that, it’s perfect as it is now.

runeblade.7514:

I agree with the OP completely.

I have two guilds, a WvW guild and a RL family/friends guild. Both of them are interesting but I can’t speak to both.

I don’t care if I have to represent one so one guild can get points, but I want to speak to both guilds at once.

But that is not what the OP wants. The OP wants you to only be allowed to be in one guild. I think that is a bad idea.

I would love to be able to speak to all my guilds at once though. It would be nice to be able to set up /g1, /g2, etc or something for each guild I am in.

If someone is not representing your Guild then, unless you ask them, you have no idea why they are not. It is easy to assume that it is because they are representing another Guild but we have found that 99% of the time it is because they have forgotten to check the “represent” option with that (new) character, because they did not realise they had to check the represent option with that (new) character or because the Guild system is bugged out again and not displaying things correctly.

The representing and invite options have definitely improved – there were dreadful in the first week – but the issues with not being able to see the build queue, edit options, edit the MoTD, access the Guild Bank etc etc seem to be increasing again.

Totally aggree! Each player, or character, should only be allowed to be in one guild at a time. And thus guilds wont have their roster filled with people who forget to represent or who are representing other guilds.

Yes to this.

Before I had any actual exposure to the multiple guilds system in GW2, I thought it was a great idea. But the way that ArenaNet has chosen to implement it has fallen short of my expectations. I am an officer in a guild that was in an alliance in GW1 & I belong to that guild & to the guild that ran / lead our GW1 alliance.

I thought I’d be able to possibly join guilds of friends outside my GW1 alliance in GW2; however, as I didn’t coordinate home servers with those friends, this isn’t really feasible. They are on different home servers & even if I guested with them (once that becomes available), I’d never be able to give them any influence since I’m not on the same server as them. So who would want me to join their guild knowing that even representing them wouldn’t give them any influence?

Change the system so that different characters can have different home servers; then I can set aside an alt character to play with my other friends on their own servers & in their own guilds & actually earn them some influence. From what I understand, many other MMO’s (such as WoW) already operate this way (I’ve never played anything besides GW1 so I’m just going by what I’ve heard).

Also, bring back the alliances! I miss my alliance chat. My main guild is a smaller, close-knit family-type guild & I liked having the alliance for bigger events & such. I wouldn’t mind a feature being implemented where I could choose on certain occasions (such as alliance events) to have my influence split with 55%-60% going to my primary guild & the rest split among the alliance guilds.

Trepix.8601:

Change the system so that different characters can have different home servers; then I can set aside an alt character to play with my other friends on their own servers & in their own guilds & actually earn them some influence. From what I understand, many other MMO’s (such as WoW) already operate this way (I’ve never played anything besides GW1 so I’m just going by what I’ve heard).

I think that wouldn’t be feasible.
What would be, though, is making guilds truly global.
Think about it: Shared Guild Upgrades and influence on any and all servers. I really see no reason why a member on a different server can’t gain influence for the guild as a whole but only his server “enclave” of the guild. Just as I see no reason whatsoever why guild upgrades should be server-specific. It’s actually countering some of Anets philosophies of community and playing together.

Therefore: make guilds completely global, give us alliances and allow us to see the guild chat of any of our account guilds, and I think that would pretty much server any problems presented here.

To the people who want a single-guild system back:
Think about what this entails.
Are you really that selfish? There are many players, myself included, who are completely happy with the system as it is now, and are actively using it. You would be restricting those players’ game experience just becaue you yourself don’t like the system?
I won’t accept that I have to choose to cancel my membership in any of the communities I’m a member of just because some people don’t like the fact that their members are illoyal. Make them loyal, give them a reason to be, instead of condemning the system and trying to ruin the game for others.

If a Guild Leader only wants player in the guild that represent, then all they need to do is boot members that don’t. If members are not representing your guild now, then forcing them to pick 1 guild is going to be no different from booting them. If they don’t represent you, they wont join you in a single guild environment.

I personally like the idea of being able to represent multiple guilds, it adds an element to the game that lets you interact with multiple groups, rather than just limiting you to one.

I do agree with the idea of having some way to chat with all guild members regardless of whether or not they are representing though. The inability to chat with non-representing members doesn’t really fit with the idea of having multiple guilds.

It might not be good for a guild with the shortname ‘MAP’ (or anything else that’s currently already a chat shortcut), and wouldn’t mix with the ability to have multiple guilds with the same acronym. But being able to type /AoA and open a channel to speak to members of AoA (representing or not) would be pretty awesome

Making the guilds truly global would work too. I just want to be able to game with all my friends (sort of like ArenaNet promised me before launch that I’d be able to do) & help out with their guilds when we’re doing activities together.

For someone like me, who is pretty much solely a PvEr, being limited from being truly global just because of something like WvW is frustrating. The only reason I’ll ever be WvWing is for my monthly achievements & apparently, in order to get 100% map completion so I can get the gift of exploration needed to craft legendary weapons.

I would also love a way to chat with other guilds I am a member of regardless of representing. To not have this feature makes joining multiple guilds a little bit pointless.

Trepix.8601:

Making the guilds truly global would work too. I just want to be able to game with all my friends (sort of like ArenaNet promised me before launch that I’d be able to do) & help out with their guilds when we’re doing activities together.

For someone like me, who is pretty much solely a PvEr, being limited from being truly global just because of something like WvW is frustrating. The only reason I’ll ever be WvWing is for my monthly achievements & apparently, in order to get 100% map completion so I can get the gift of exploration needed to craft legendary weapons.

I would also love a way to chat with other guilds I am a member of regardless of representing. To not have this feature makes joining multiple guilds a little bit pointless.

Why don’t you and your friends all join the same guild? Also, if the chat was global between every guild you’re part of, trust me, it would be pure chaos (considering guilds tend to have 200+ members)

Just no, the guild system in GW2 is outstanding and I wouldn’t want it changed for anything. The days of one guild per character are over finally I can be in a guild with my casual PvE friends and in a guild to compete in serious PvP, never again do I have to make the choice between friends and progression/competition.

MilkInBags.5136:

Also, if the chat was global between every guild you’re part of, trust me, it would be pure chaos (considering guilds tend to have 200+ members)

The most obvious way to do it would be for /guild to chat with the guild you are representing, and to also have a different channel for each individual guild you are a member of, and also a slightly different colour. Merging all guilds you’re a member of into the /guild channel would make things more confusing, as you’d not know which guild was messaging you.

MilkInBags.5136:

Why don’t you and your friends all join the same guild? Also, if the chat was global between every guild you’re part of, trust me, it would be pure chaos (considering guilds tend to have 200+ members)

Nobody is talking about one guild chat for all the guilds you’re a member of.
You can already configure your own chat tabs, and one channel per guild (maybe designated with the corresponding guild tag) wouldn’t bee too much of a problem. People could configure it any way they’d want.

Also, I think there are quite many guilds with 100 members or less … ^_-

letting multi probly takes out change of them Adding Guild Vs Guilds as a pvp options