Guild Wars 2

Hi,

the new dailies take way too long to complete if you are unlucky – especially the PvP part.

You have to play 4 Unique Maps – 3 only possible by playing hotjoin).
You have to win 2 Tournaments – if lucky 2 games, on average 4 games (you win one, you lose one), if unlucky much, much more…

Before April 30 patch you had only to play 3 (sometimes 4) maps to complete the daily, now this is more than doubled. One match takes 10 minutes on average, so before you had to go for about 30 minutes in PvP, now it is at least an hour, maybe more.

So I suggest to change 2 things in the PvP daily:
1. Unique Maps played: Either 4 unique hotjoins or 4 Tournament maps.
(Or better: make tournaments avaiable for all maps, and not just one at a time. If not enough players register for the same map they could be asked if they want to join in another tournament map)

2. Tournament Matches Won: Now to complete the PvP daily people are forced to play tournaments – even if they are not “ready” for tournaments (the subjective quantity of leavers has increased 200% since before the patch)

Here, please change the requirement to one victory (either tournament or hotjoin).

On the normal Daily, a new task was added: Repairs Supplied.Depending on the time you go into WvW it may be a long time until you get into a structure, where you can apply your repairs. Why was there a 2nd WvW task introduced? Since you could complete about any Daily in WvW alone, I’d suggest you reduce the normal Daily back to 9 tasks, and just alternate the new task into the one WvW only task…

I’d be very happy if you could introduce this in tomorrow’s Dailies already…

So long,
Curu…

There are 6 different pvp daily achievments. 4 of which are the orignal which were incredibly easy to do. I may not share the time schedule as you (~25 hours a week work) but I don’t see the frustration. Play 4 matches, try to be the best in one of those and you’re done.

Pvp dailies are a joke anyways, they take at most 20-30 min to do which to any mmo player should be more than enough. Any sooner and they might as well reward daily achievments for logging on.

here is a daily achievement, log into guild-wars 2 at least once per day!

Constantine.7812:

you must be joking omg….start to work 15 hours a day then tell me how easy it is ok?

Ah yes, lets build the game around the extreme minority shall we?
Most people that work (legally anyway) work about 8 hours a day, not 15.

As for the suggestion itself: You don’t need to do all of them, you need to finish five, so simply skip the hardest one, and the problem is solved.

The daily pvp are really easy. The most difficult of them is the “win 2 tournaments”.

Constantine.7812:

i want to do all of them so problem not solved. we could get it all within 2 hours for 8 months, now you are trying to get ONLY tournament achievement for 2 hours which is ridiculous. so i have no idea why do they have to make it harder and harder after almost 1 year.

I think a better pvp tournament system would solve this. Something that let’s you play against opponents that are equally good at playing to you using your current win-lose stats. That way you always have a good chance to win your tournament, you have a challenge and the achievement is no problem anymore.

Constantine.7812:

GreenNekoHaunt.8527:

The daily pvp are really easy. The most difficult of them is the “win 2 tournaments”.

and thats exactly what i want from anet to be changed. i have no problems with other achievements

I think a better pvp tournament system would solve this. Something that let’s you play against opponents that are equally good at playing to you using your current win-lose stats. That way you always have a good chance to win your tournament, you have a challenge and the achievement is no problem anymore.

Plus this would also solve the problem with the 500-80 or 100-500 point tournaments. Seriously, it’s no fun for the team that loses and it’s no challenge for those who win and seek out for one. The 400-500 or 500-400 or even better the 500-489 games are much more interesting and a lot more fun. This new system would encourage this.

Constantine.7812:

i want to do all of them so problem not solved. we could get it all within 2 hours for 8 months, now you are trying to get ONLY tournament achievement for 2 hours which is ridiculous. so i have no idea why do they have to make it harder and harder after almost 1 year.

So, the only issue is actually yourself feeling the need to do every part of it?
Isn’t it more unfair for people that simply defend a point with a bunker build?
I mean, how are they suppose to get those 20 kills? They are not focused on killing, they are focused on defending.

And those only doing tournaments? They won’t be able to complete the play on 4 different maps, since tournaments are one map only?

Constantine.7812:

whats your problem? you just cant agree with anybody can you? im just asking to change a little thing so that its not as time consuming as it is right now and you just have to be the wisest man on earth dont you? you know what? pls dont make comments ok? let the anet decide if im right or not. i dont need your opinions thx.

But why should they change a thing for you, but not for others that is having “problems” (such as bunkers or tournament players)?

Constantine.7812:

Cuz its their choice of playstyle, while i am ABLE to get everything i just dont have time for it cuz it takes too long to get. You have to be there half a day now to get it. I really dont know how else should i explain this to you. Maybe now you ll come up with another `great`idea why im not right.
Btw even if i was a bunker im 100% sure i would get those kills.

And that is your choice of playstyle, so why should they cater to that one but not to others?

I find it quite unlikely that you would get 20 kills in less time than it would take you to win 2 tournament matches as a bunker to be honest.

UMMMMMMM you don’t have to win 2 tournament games to complete Spvp daily.

There are 6/7 objectives that you can do for completing the daily , you only have to do 5 of them. close thread.

Please only post when you know all the facts.

Constantine.7812:

Chewablesleeptablet.3185:

UMMMMMMM you don’t have to win 2 tournament games to complete Spvp daily.

There are 6/7 objectives that you can do for completing the daily , you only have to do 5 of them. close thread.

Please only post when you know all the facts.

same goes for you. read whole post then speak thx

yah right, because you can play 4 maps in rotation and get your daily. which takes 45 mins tops. If you don’t have that much time to invest then maybe MMOs aren’t for you.

oh wow,, not getting the tournament achievement is like the end of the world for you. I wasn’t really reading your posts because they were just big cry baby posts. Nonsense. I should have said before I typed anything else:

“To the OP……..”

IQ has nothing to do with it. But you are definitely crying about something that it so little which says a lot about your IQ. Please, personal attacks are out of style. Its the internet.

There is no reason to do that daily part unless you are looking for more achievement points…… Wow just 1 measly achievement point…….

HAS THE WORLD GONE MAD?

No wonder the casuals chew through content so fast, everything must be restriction / effort free because they don’t have the time to complete anything that requires time.

I feel sorry for ArenaNet, trying to support casuals complaining about content taking to long to complete, and hardcore gamers complaining that everything is to easy.

A good idea would be to create two types of servers, one for casuals who can play in their sandpit of toys, and one for the hardcore who will grind, collect, progress and conquer.

Gustoril.4195:

No wonder the casuals chew through content so fast, everything must be restriction / effort free because they don’t have the time to complete anything that requires time.

I feel sorry for ArenaNet, trying to support casuals complaining about content taking to long to complete, and hardcore gamers complaining that everything is to easy.

A good idea would be to create two types of servers, one for casuals who can play in their sandpit of toys, and one for the hardcore who will grind, collect, progress and conquer.

If grinding makes you a hardcore player…. I don’t want to be hardcore. Sounds dumb. anyone who thinks they are hardcore because they play longer and grind all the high level content probably have less skill then casual players.

Chewablesleeptablet.3185:

If grinding makes you a hardcore player…. I don’t want to be hardcore. Sounds dumb. anyone who thinks they are hardcore because they play longer and grind all the high level content probably have less skill then casual players.

Hardcore is a gaming term, Check google “Gamers” and you will find -

-Hardcore gamers prefer to take significant time and practice on games, and tend to play more involved games that require larger amounts of time to complete or master.

-A casual gamer is a player whose time or interest in playing games is limited. Casual gamers tend to play games designed for ease of gameplay and don’t spend much time playing more involved games.

Also you already grind whether you like it or not.

“Grinding is a term used in video gaming to describe the process of engaging in repetitive tasks during video games.”

What’s a daily?
What are you doing when running a dungeon 10 times for tokens/gear?
what are you doing when attempting events throughout the world?
What are you doing when killing creatures for crafting goods?

All of those are on repeat…, The only different between grinding in this game and others is simply, progression. facts vs opinions.

Constantine.7812:

wow im already trying to win tournament for 2 and half hours and just cant. ANET PLS CHANGE THIS FROM DAILY TOURNAMENT MATCHES WON TO DAILY TOURNAMENT MATCHES PLAYED SO THAT WE ACTUALLY DONT SPEND 5 HOURS ON 1 DAILY ACHIEVEMENT THX.

Maybe you should simply become better at PvP?
Since that actually seems to be the issue.

lordkrall.7241:

Constantine.7812:

wow im already trying to win tournament for 2 and half hours and just cant. ANET PLS CHANGE THIS FROM DAILY TOURNAMENT MATCHES WON TO DAILY TOURNAMENT MATCHES PLAYED SO THAT WE ACTUALLY DONT SPEND 5 HOURS ON 1 DAILY ACHIEVEMENT THX.

Maybe you should simply become better at PvP?
Since that actually seems to be the issue.

Well if you’re in the team where 3 out of 5 people are bad PvP players and the other group consists only of good PvP players it doesn’t matter how well you are..

GreenNekoHaunt.8527:

Well if you’re in the team where 3 out of 5 people are bad PvP players and the other group consists only of good PvP players it doesn’t matter how well you are..

Probably.
But that can be easily solved by actually getting an organized group. Which is the point of Tournaments in the first place.

I am “most people” and have no issue doing the dailies. Up your skill or grab a friend to trade wins with in a 1v1 empty server.

are we still whining about a single achievement point? The daily system is fine the way it is.

Daily Achievement doesn’t mean breathe some air and get rewarded for it.

Chewablesleeptablet.3185:

are we still whining about a single achievement point? The daily system is fine the way it is.

Daily Achievement doesn’t mean breathe some air and get rewarded for it.

I would like to assume that no one is concerned with the acheivement point. Anyone complaining about Dailies is usually complaining because of the real reward, like Laurels.

Incidentally the title of the thread should really be changed to mention this is about PvP Dailies, not normal Dailies.

Kal Spiro.9745:

Chewablesleeptablet.3185:

are we still whining about a single achievement point? The daily system is fine the way it is.

Daily Achievement doesn’t mean breathe some air and get rewarded for it.

I would like to assume that no one is concerned with the acheivement point. Anyone complaining about Dailies is usually complaining because of the real reward, like Laurels.

Incidentally the title of the thread should really be changed to mention this is about PvP Dailies, not normal Dailies.

you can get the laurel by doing 5 of the daily achievements……. how do you not know that?? that means you don’t have to do them all.

Constantine.7812:

i bet you all are with less than 4k achievement points so shhhhhh cuz you dont understand….

5.8k , and I do stuff that actually gives more than 1 measly little point. I play anywhere from 30 mins to 2 hours a day , taking breaks in between for prolonged play.

In average it only takes me 35 min to complete pvp daily and I am no where near good pvper (I’m rank 14) and only play hot join. I don’t know why some people are complaining about this. 35 min is about the same time it required to complete pve daily.

Agree with everything OP said. Trying to PUG tournament games is just brutal the way matchmaking is currently, and hot join games are often a zergfest. If this was a monthly task I could wait til friends were on to do tournies, but its a daily …ugh.

In general, making the daily take a lot longer with the same rewards is just making the game more grindy. I can’t imagine anyone actually wanting this change.

Also yes I do care about the achievement point. As I am trying to stay on the leaderboard (7500+ pts) the way achievements currently work, it is MUCH more efficient to do all the dailies then to grind out 5 points for other things (idk why the top tiers for all the achievements are only 5 pts). I am done all the easy to get points now. Reweighting actual achievements would help or simply changing tournament won to tournament played.

Thanks

This issue really needs to be addressed. I’m trying to stay on the leaderboard but the tournament daily track is really starting to take too much time. On good days it still takes at least 20 minutes just for this track alone. On bad days, I’ve had bad luck streaks with teams that either leave, afk, or just plainly suck, and it would take over 2 hours just for this single track.

Curuglas.1847:

Hi,

the new dailies take way too long to complete if you are unlucky – especially the PvP part.

You have to play 4 Unique Maps – 3 only possible by playing hotjoin).
You have to win 2 Tournaments – if lucky 2 games, on average 4 games (you win one, you lose one), if unlucky much, much more…

Before April 30 patch you had only to play 3 (sometimes 4) maps to complete the daily, now this is more than doubled. One match takes 10 minutes on average, so before you had to go for about 30 minutes in PvP, now it is at least an hour, maybe more.

So I suggest to change 2 things in the PvP daily:
1. Unique Maps played: Either 4 unique hotjoins or 4 Tournament maps.
(Or better: make tournaments avaiable for all maps, and not just one at a time. If not enough players register for the same map they could be asked if they want to join in another tournament map)

2. Tournament Matches Won: Now to complete the PvP daily people are forced to play tournaments – even if they are not “ready” for tournaments (the subjective quantity of leavers has increased 200% since before the patch)

Here, please change the requirement to one victory (either tournament or hotjoin).

On the normal Daily, a new task was added: Repairs Supplied.Depending on the time you go into WvW it may be a long time until you get into a structure, where you can apply your repairs. Why was there a 2nd WvW task introduced? Since you could complete about any Daily in WvW alone, I’d suggest you reduce the normal Daily back to 9 tasks, and just alternate the new task into the one WvW only task…

I’d be very happy if you could introduce this in tomorrow’s Dailies already…

So long,
Curu…

Normal daily: You complete 5 of the tasks to get your daily reward. I don’t see the point in removing one of the tasks. What difference is there if you have 9 or 10 to chose from?

Chewablesleeptablet.3185:

Kal Spiro.9745:

Chewablesleeptablet.3185:

are we still whining about a single achievement point? The daily system is fine the way it is.

Daily Achievement doesn’t mean breathe some air and get rewarded for it.

I would like to assume that no one is concerned with the acheivement point. Anyone complaining about Dailies is usually complaining because of the real reward, like Laurels.

Incidentally the title of the thread should really be changed to mention this is about PvP Dailies, not normal Dailies.

you can get the laurel by doing 5 of the daily achievements……. how do you not know that?? that means you don’t have to do them all.

Yes? What’s your point?

Why would someone play tournaments to farm achievement points? I think doing PvE daily/running dungeons/WvW is more suitable than jumping in a tournament without having enough PvP experience just to try to get achievement points.

Please remain the thread constructive and avoid personal attacks.
Thanks for your understanding!