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Posted by: spacecraft.4968

spacecraft.4968

Many people play using their controllers with xpadder or other software, and a lot of us feel like the game is more fun with the controller. TERA had incredible controller support.

Example 1: http://i.imgur.com/ckcmv.png (Clicking doesn’t work in these forums for some reason. Need to copy the url. wtf?)
Example 2

Xpadder and alternatives work pretty well, but they’re just not good enough for full time use. GW2 already feels like it was made with a controller in mind.

I’ve heard from numerous websites that anet is developing GW2 for consoles. If this is true, is there a possibility we could see official xbox 360 controller support on PC?

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Posted by: seithan.4823

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there are many times u just have to click to select the target. For casual play (is there a thing like that in GW2), i guess u can escape with sluggish tagging though the xpad but in wars like WvW i highly doubt you can really push your class to the limits without the traditional keyb/mice combo.

i have no problem with ppl who enjoy nevertheless.

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Posted by: spacecraft.4968

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Yeah target selecting will never be as fast, but I’m not a big PVPer and a controller works great in PVE. Right now my controller targets whatever I’m looking at (after I attack it) so I can swap between enemies without the d-pad pretty fast. Enough for casual pvp probably. If I ever got into competitive pvp I’d use my m+kb

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Posted by: Kyosai.5037

Kyosai.5037

I do think adding controller support would be awesome. I really enjoy playing games like Champions Online with a controller.

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Posted by: Eochaidh.4106

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I really would rather see them spend time and money on actual content for the game.

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Posted by: Clem.2963

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I really would rather see them spend time and money on actual content for the game.

Yep, there’s plenty more important things to do rather than spending time on support for an inferior (for this genre) input device.

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Posted by: GOSU.9574

GOSU.9574

Not really commenting on your request as much as pointing out my personal issue, I can’t get away from the keyboard. I have a speed pad I could use along with a mouse, or perhaps a xbox controller, but I would miss or have to fumblingly reassign keys like opening this and closing that, not to mention inability to type in chat without keyboard immediately in hand. The way I develop my game play is with half the keyboard on my thigh, the other half on the arm of my recliner, my hand wrapped around the left keyboard boarder, and my fingers able to manipulate many of the various keys without looking.

Over time developing something like this is very hard to break away from.

Hey dude you are walking into a wall.

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Posted by: spacecraft.4968

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I really would rather see them spend time and money on actual content for the game.

Yep, there’s plenty more important things to do rather than spending time on support for an inferior (for this genre) input device.

If you don’t want it, nobody should have it. rollseyes And yeah there are urgent problems they need to fix, but we’re already past game breaking bugs and more into balancing updates. Balancing is never going to stop. And I’m sure with a staff of around 300 people, they can probably work on several things at once. :P

There are a lot of people that would like native controller support. Just google “guild wars 2 360 controller”. There are lots of people creating profiles for xpadder/pinnacle and stuff like that.

Oh and if you had actually tried a 360 controller you would see that the game works perfectly with one. The current xpadder profile I’m using is extremely easy to play with. The only place it doesn’t perform as well in is ground targeting, to which there is a nice workaround that is accurate and fast, just not as fast as using a mouse.

A while ago someone found a bunch of images that looked to be controller buttons icons. A lot of people speculate that it is for native controller support. There was a post from someone at anet where they said there wouldn’t be controller support at launch, but probably something later on. So I’m assuming they have the basic framework to implement this fairly easily already.

I’d love an official word on their plans for this.

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Posted by: SilverAlien.7095

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I’d just like to add my vote for controller support. I have always struggled with movement using a keyboard. Growing up with console games makes a controller much more intuitive for me to use.

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Posted by: Yaos.4528

Yaos.4528

In game controller support would be great. I use my 360 controller simply because it’s more ergonomic than using my keyboard. I only PvE so it’s fine there. There are a few things that you can’t really do without official support, like attacks that hit where the cursor is at.

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Posted by: kazzfire.6438

kazzfire.6438

well it they did the controller setup more like dark souls, darksiders, or god of war where you could lock on with a press of a button and change with something like the right stick and it would lock the camera to that enemy then the controller would feel more nature.
have the reason i got bored of guild wars 2 for a bit is cause on a mouse and keyboard it feels out of place but with a controller i think it would fit perfectly

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Posted by: Onshidesigns.1069

Onshidesigns.1069

If Anet adds a controller support:
*Also add action MMO mode options (reticle instead of a mouse)
*Button to switch between (reticle and mouse mode) in-game
*reticle should be above the players head

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Posted by: Drawing Guy.3701

Drawing Guy.3701

I don’t see how it would be that difficult to set up the 360 controller – left stick is forward/back/strafe, right is camera. Bigger problem would be the fact you’re giving up fingers to hold the controller, making any binding combination to be able to handle the 15 button minimum (f1 – f4, 0 – 9, F) impossible without forcing you to take your thumb away from a control.

What I would do:

Directional Pad: F1 – F4
Right Trigger: 1
Right Bumper: 2
Left Trigger: 3
Left Bumper: 4
Left Thumb Stick click (LTSC) + Right Trigger: 5
LTSC + Right Bumper: Util 1 (7)
LTSC + Left Trigger: Util 2 (8)
LTSC + Left Bumper: Util 3 (9)
X: Heal (6)
Y: Elite (0)
A: Jump (spacebar)
B: Interact (F)
LTSC + X: Walk/Run mode (useful for escort events or roleplay)
LTSC + Y: Select closest target
LTSC + A: Weapon Swap
LTSC + B: Weapon Sheath (used to cancel moves)
Right Thumb Stick click (RTSC): Flip 180

The ultimate goal is keeping your full movement at all times possible while keeping access to your moves. Due to targeting limitations, you are pretty reliant on auto-targeting. Another option is to replace my LTSC + X and LTSC + B with more targeting controls.

Hopefully that suggestion is something that works for you!

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Posted by: Killyox.3950

Killyox.3950

This is PC title really. Controller support? No chances imo. Not needed as well. Only one step from giving controll support to players wishing for more advantages so they can be on equal footing with mouse/keyboard users.

Too much work for virtually zero benefits.

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Posted by: Caedmon.6798

Caedmon.6798

Tried it with my own profiles,but you lack the speed you need,mostly for pvp.Even for pve it just feels to slow..you need to make to much combos with buttons,mess up easily,cam turning also Way to slow with a controller for this game.All those people that want Official controller support…are pve’rs only though.Theres isnt a pvper that would choose controller over m&k.

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Posted by: Orpheal.8263

Orpheal.8263

I’d like this too, but not on a console, that would be way too much work, but just as official support being able to download an official program or so, that makes it possible to play GW2 with an X360 or any upcoming soon Next Gen Console like the codename Durango next console of Micro$oft … (also been named X720)

Theres no need to place every action we do with a keybord also onto a single button on the controler.
They key word here is “Sub Ring Menues”…
So just pressing 1 button and opening up ring menues with that you can do many things, withouzt having to type anything into Chat or where you would have to press many different buttons on the keyboard to do all those different things with seperate buttons.

keyboards have the advantage ofhaving alot more buttons, but this advantage can be easily ignored with Sub Ring Menues.

This is how I’d place controls on the Controler of a X360

Movement = Left Stick
Camera = Right Stick
D-Pad = F1 to F4

Jump = Press Left Stick
Map = Press Right Stick

Skills 1-4 = A, B, Y ,X
Skill 5 = XBox-Button
Skills 6-9 = Press Left Bumper + A, B, Y, Z
Skill 10 = Left Bumper + XBox-Button
Dodge Roll = Left Stick + Right Bumper

Looting/Interacting = Left Bumper pressed down (Hold)
Toggling Run/Walk = Left Bumper quick pressed

Emotes = Select (Opens Up Ring Menu)
Options Menu = Start

Weapon Swap = LT Button
Weapon Sheath = RT Button

Target Enemy = automatically
Change Target =LT and RT together

Inventory = Sub Ring Menu via Select like Emotes
Pets = Sub Ring Menu via Select
Guilds = Sub Ring Menu via Select
Hero Panel = Sub Ring Menu via Select
WvW = Sub Ring Menu via Select
TP = Sub Ring Menu via Select
Group Creation = Sub Ring Menu via Select

I think that way it should work very well.

Personally I like the idea behind sub classes ~ quoted from Chris Whiteside

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Posted by: Onshidesigns.1069

Onshidesigns.1069

This is PC title really. Controller support? No chances imo. Not needed as well. Only one step from giving controll support to players wishing for more advantages so they can be on equal footing with mouse/keyboard users.

Too much work for virtually zero benefits.

With a controller I can out play (95% or more) players using just a mouse and keyboard. And receive more loot because I can tag enemies much faster.

This is not a strategy or shooter game. Where the precision of a mouse is a must. In this game fast movement is more important. Which gives the controller a advantage over using W,A,S,D or even a mouse for movement.

I still do use a mouse and keyboard for some of the user interface.

But both the Xbox 360 and PS3 already have keyboard and mouse as a option. So if Anet does make a console it should at-least require keyboard support too.

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Posted by: Onshidesigns.1069

Onshidesigns.1069

Tried it with my own profiles,but you lack the speed you need,mostly for pvp.Even for pve it just feels to slow..you need to make to much combos with buttons,mess up easily,cam turning also Way to slow with a controller for this game.All those people that want Official controller support…are pve’rs only though.Theres isnt a pvper that would choose controller over m&k.

I only played 3 SPvP games. The last two I was the best player and was playing with a controller.

I might play more SPvP once they add more maps and game modes.

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Posted by: Redstar.7039

Redstar.7039

All they have to do for starter, is just add dedicated LOOK UP and DOWN buttons for keybinding. Xpadder works fine but, that keybinding is critical. The Devs just dont seem to give a crap about it, which is a shame.

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Posted by: Kaimick.5109

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One reason they wont, if you can customize your controller to do things, and macro multiple things then you have a chance to macro multiple actions to one button, which in turn makes against the ToS and will get people banned. There are already modded controllers for Xbox that people use in FPS to gain an advantage and cheat, what makes you think they wont for this? Just because the OP or others that are commenting on this thread say they wont doesn’t mean that the other 500 wont.

Also unlike Microsoft that doesn’t care when people Cheat in games ( FPS; head-shot mods ect. ) Arena Net has taken a firm stand on no multiple action macros, they have left no gray area for it. Doesn’t matter if it is a harmless chat macro it is still a no no. So your controller will more than likely never see the light of day.

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Posted by: Zahld.4956

Zahld.4956

Console controller support would be great. Native support would even be better for the casual gamer. USB controller support would basically be needed for most console controllers.

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Posted by: Onshidesigns.1069

Onshidesigns.1069

One reason they wont, if you can customize your controller to do things, and macro multiple things then you have a chance to macro multiple actions to one button, which in turn makes against the ToS and will get people banned. There are already modded controllers for Xbox that people use in FPS to gain an advantage and cheat, what makes you think they wont for this? Just because the OP or others that are commenting on this thread say they wont doesn’t mean that the other 500 wont.

Also unlike Microsoft that doesn’t care when people Cheat in games ( FPS; head-shot mods ect. ) Arena Net has taken a firm stand on no multiple action macros, they have left no gray area for it. Doesn’t matter if it is a harmless chat macro it is still a no no. So your controller will more than likely never see the light of day.

I can macro multiple things to a keyboard if I wanted too. There are plenty of buttons on a controller to do anything without using macros. If one of the button’s is a shift button.

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Posted by: Kaimick.5109

Kaimick.5109

One reason they wont, if you can customize your controller to do things, and macro multiple things then you have a chance to macro multiple actions to one button, which in turn makes against the ToS and will get people banned. There are already modded controllers for Xbox that people use in FPS to gain an advantage and cheat, what makes you think they wont for this? Just because the OP or others that are commenting on this thread say they wont doesn’t mean that the other 500 wont.

Also unlike Microsoft that doesn’t care when people Cheat in games ( FPS; head-shot mods ect. ) Arena Net has taken a firm stand on no multiple action macros, they have left no gray area for it. Doesn’t matter if it is a harmless chat macro it is still a no no. So your controller will more than likely never see the light of day.

I can macro multiple things to a keyboard if I wanted too. There are plenty of buttons on a controller to do anything without using macros. If one of the button’s is a shift button.

Then you obviously didn’t read my post as I already stated why you can not macro multiple things via Keyboard or mouse or controller to one button as it violates the ToS and will get you banned.

People have been banned for macoring simple actions that would not break the fairness of the game but Arena Net say’s no period. So instead of saying yeah this macro is fine and no this isn’t and needing a group of people to just oversee it is harder than saying No macros that bind multiple actions period. Sure you can do it with a keyboard now and sure you can probably get away with it but do you really want to risk losing your account permanently if they catch you.

Like I said before I am sure people here posting would not abuse it and use modded controllers to cheat or what not, Although there will be more abuser’s than legal players, so if you want to blame someone blame them.

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Posted by: Onshidesigns.1069

Onshidesigns.1069

One reason they wont, if you can customize your controller to do things, and macro multiple things then you have a chance to macro multiple actions to one button, which in turn makes against the ToS and will get people banned. There are already modded controllers for Xbox that people use in FPS to gain an advantage and cheat, what makes you think they wont for this? Just because the OP or others that are commenting on this thread say they wont doesn’t mean that the other 500 wont.

Also unlike Microsoft that doesn’t care when people Cheat in games ( FPS; head-shot mods ect. ) Arena Net has taken a firm stand on no multiple action macros, they have left no gray area for it. Doesn’t matter if it is a harmless chat macro it is still a no no. So your controller will more than likely never see the light of day.

I can macro multiple things to a keyboard if I wanted too. There are plenty of buttons on a controller to do anything without using macros. If one of the button’s is a shift button.

Then you obviously didn’t read my post as I already stated why you can not macro multiple things via Keyboard or mouse or controller to one button as it violates the ToS and will get you banned. “Using a button as a shift key is not the same as a script that performs multiple actions”

People have been banned for macoring simple actions that would not break the fairness of the game but Arena Net say’s no period. So instead of saying yeah this macro is fine and no this isn’t and needing a group of people to just oversee it is harder than saying No macros that bind multiple actions period. Sure you can do it with a keyboard now and sure you can probably get away with it but do you really want to risk losing your account permanently if they catch you.

Like I said before I am sure people here posting would not abuse it and use modded controllers to cheat or what not, Although there will be more abuser’s than legal players, so if you want to blame someone blame them.

Cheaters will cheat with or with out a keyboard. Most will get away with it.

Macro are only one way people cheat. There also hackers, crackers, lag switches.

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Posted by: Dan.5416

Dan.5416

One more voice for native controller support. This would be just aaaaawsome!

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Posted by: Loyheta.3754

Loyheta.3754

I would love to play this on a game pad. Tera felt amazing with my 360 controller.

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Posted by: Wedge.3126

Wedge.3126

There’s a mish-mash of third party support and scripts out there, but they are somewhat limited and can require a lot of tweaking and fanagling to get right. It’d be much nicer to not have to deal with any of that stuff. Having controller support that lets you play in third person with aim-based targeting or auto/manual target selection depending on your class/needs would be awesome. Since the game already has a third person camera and jumping and a dodge move, it all feels very natural.

Any arguments over whether it can play at the highest level of a kb/m totally miss the point. Using a controller is about comfort, convenience, and options.

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Posted by: CoffeeMakesMeSmile.8172

CoffeeMakesMeSmile.8172

Xbox controller support would be great. I tried using Xpadder, but it was too difficult to get the camera to move correctly with the character that I gave up on it. I’m certain that the GW staff could do a better job than me.

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Posted by: Cexikitin.1905

Cexikitin.1905

I’d love official support, playing with a controller doesn’t hurt while keyboard+mouse does, carpal tunnel ftl.

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Posted by: swifthshade.9042

swifthshade.9042

Would love offcial gamepad support for the game

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Posted by: Darthwraith.5782

Darthwraith.5782

My wife and I have been playing with a controller for two months now. We are by no means great at the game but like said before PVE this is awesome. We use press/hold functions from pinnacle game profiler. Our targeting is set up on right bumper; press for weapon 5, hold for target closest enemy. Also autotargeting is turned off as wells as target on attack or whatever. Melee option is also off. Our camera is controlled by right stick with no lag only bugs every once in a while. For speed issues you need to set the sensitivity in pinnacle to around 75 or percent then adjust to your liking in game. Ground targeting is a little buggy as well but I have it set to where the mouse will snap to a pre set location on your screen (mine is above my head to the right). Also i have seen people complain above not being able to work inventory with these setups but I set my left stick click to double as; press for left click/ hold for left click hold and the right stick moves the cursor. With this you can drag items around the screen and whatever else you need to do also holding right stick click is right click. The only things I do not have on the controller are menus and this is not because I dont have room for more because I think I saw somewhere that you can program something like 50ish commands with the shift state options but because it is just as easy to hold left trigger move mouse to menu icon and click left stick then do what I gotta do. I can use menus in mid combat just as you see other doing it. Im no Daphenoix but I think I handle switching attunements rather quickly D-pad left is f4 right is f2 up is f1 and left bumper hold is f3. The only reason I moved f3 to that button is because I liked having healing on d pad down it just seems to work better than anything I have tried. I am be no means uber smart at pinnacle profiler either I used the profile that they offer on there web site and tweaked several options to better suit my style as well was my wifes (who btw has not played a video game since Silent Hill 1) any pm me for questions if you wanna give it a shot. Oh also pinnacle is a paid program but its cheap and worth it in my humble opinion.

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Posted by: Mad Queen Malafide.7512

Mad Queen Malafide.7512

Since GW2 has a pretty arcade style combat system, I would love to see controller support. I have an excellent usb joypad lying around that already did wonders when playing Dungeonland (which has great controller support btw). I could see it working just fine for GW2.

“Madness is just another way to view reality”
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Posted by: TheFirstKel.1256

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I’ve been playing FFXIV:ARR and it has native controller support. I tell you… it’s the best MMORPG gaming experience I have had. I’ve play WoW and that just bored me over… and I played GW2 and I liked it… but I stopped playing for a while. It becomes the case of must always have keyboard and mouse. I game for relaxation and would prefer controller to wind down my office job, with as little dependency on keyboard and mouse as possible.

Like I said, FFXIV:ARR feels so much better and easier to play. There are time you will need to communicate and type etc but it’s only necessary when I need to and I can easily put the controller down and do quick typing and back on controller etc.

I sure hope to see the official support for controller.

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Posted by: smitty.2607

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I use a xbox controller.

I would love support.

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Posted by: Sabba.6408

Sabba.6408

Another vote here for official controller support, after playing FF14:RR i had a hankering to come back to GW2, but the controller support is a big thing for me, it was fantastic on FF14:RR.

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Posted by: DreamyAbaddon.3265

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I made my own Xpadder Profile that works PERFECT on the Xbox360 Controller for GW2.

I do NOT wish for Controller Support like TERA.

If they do manage to make the Xbox360 controller support for this game, They should have the ability to turn this support /OFF for those of us who like to use our current Xpadder Profile instead.

Other than that, I wouldn’t want the support if it cannot be turned off.

This could destroy the game for me if I can’t use my Xpadder Profile the way I designed it for if this Support was made.

Xpadder FTW.

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Posted by: Zoid.2568

Zoid.2568

An easy fix for targeting with skills etc. Whatever your cursor is targeting is what will be targeted by your skills, like in Tera. ArenaNet chosed to go with oldschool targeting instead, which is boring. I want real action combat.

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Posted by: Maracuxo.3192

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I’d love to have some controller support… Once you get adapted to use your controller its uncomfortable to go back to keyboard+mouse. Xpadder is not enough because of the targerting. If someone donĀ“t want to use it it wont hurt them anyway.

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Posted by: darksupernova.9806

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I would also like controller support.

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Posted by: Syd.2847

Syd.2847

It’s not just an issue of personal preference. Some people literally NEED a controller. I’ve been playing GW2 since it came out (just hit my GW 8th birthday on Halloween), but recently had a spine injury & can no longer use a mouse & keyboard for more than a few minutes at a time. Had to start playing MMOs with built-in controller support (FF14, DC). So sad… GW2 seems perfect for controllers, not having thousands of action bars overloaded with skills and consumables. I don’t understand why our only option is questionable 3rd-party software installation, followed by tedious configuration? If the strip clubs have wheelchair ramps, I think GW2 should support game controllers.