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Posted by: Maelzrael.8142

Maelzrael.8142

First of all I am not putting this in the ascended gear thread because I personally dont care about all that and I dont want this being thrown away as “just another topic about ascended gear”. Mods can move it if they must But I feel this warrants its own thread.

Suggestion:
Put the new rewards from FOTM into the Exp modes of all the other dungeons. In fact, put a manditory peices of gear for the BIS ascended gear as a Grindable reward within each of the other dungeons. This will effectively keep those dungeons useful and allow FOTM to last longer as a useful peice of content.

Let me explain why you should do this; Since you have launched FOTM, nobody runs the other Dungeons anymore at all. Nobody. It takes longer to get a group for Arah or CoF, including doing the event to make it uncontested then it does to actually run the dungeons themselves now. This is particularly harsh against new lvl 80 players who want a cool look such as the Visual gear of TA, these players have a very hard time finding groups now. Even thier own guilds are running nothing but FOTM all day everyday.

Your entire design plan was to Keep all content current and useful, and now, nobody cares about the Awesome visual gear that comes from the other dungeons so those of us that Do care about that cannot find a group for them at all. Everyone is just running Fotm because it has the BiS gear.

So to sum it up again:
1. Give people a reason to run ALL the other dungeons as a way to progress further into Fotm.
Ex: In order to get that new back piece you need to run CoF about 10 times or so to get the craftable peice, the new back peice would be required to get past lvl 10 or so in FOTM, therefore more players would still run all the dungeons.
2. You can add more ascended gear this way, adding a single peice of the over all progression puzzle to each dungeon.
3. Make the drop rate for decent/new gear the same across all areas of the game be it Fotm, Dragon fights, Old Dungeons, WvW, or running a lvl 80 in a lvl 55 zone to help a guildie or just explore the world. That way you dont have 90% of the Pve population in Lions Arch spamming “LFG FOTM LVL X”. Sure alot of people will still run it because its new, and it will be the only way to “Use” the Ascended gear. But at least players can all be equally rewarded to some extent for doing all aspects of the game. I dont want to grind the exact same dungeon over and over and over again all the time. If i wanted that I would still be playing WoW/Swtor or whatever other mmos.

I dont mind progression, but I do mind not being able to complete any other content then the “Cool new thing with the BiS gear” becuase you guys decided to go verticle progression instead of horizontal. So rather then ask you to change what you’ve allready decided to do completely, I’m merely adviseing how to build on the combination of a Verticle and Horizontal progression.. to merge them into one being that allows us the players to Still enjoy all parts of your game world and not just FOTM.

On a side note, the way you designed FoTM as a dungeon is very good. You guys have done an amazing job with this game so far and even with the introduction of FOTM and all my complaints, This is still the only MMORPG i want to play. But just because Im a loyal player and I really like Arenanet does not mean you guys should settle with the way things are now. I want to run other dungeons and get that cool gear on Multiple toons, I want to be able to explore all the zones and all the content of the game without being the only person in the zone or at an event because 90% of the players are standing around Lions Arch screaming for a FOTM group.

Thank you for listening to your players. Please dont cater to the wow locusts to much. Stick to your guns and your original design plans and keep innovating your game.

-Faithful Player

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Posted by: Grizledorf.5290

Grizledorf.5290

Maybe you should transfer servers. JQ server has people running all sorts of dungeons all the time. Also try gw2lfg.com

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Posted by: Maelzrael.8142

Maelzrael.8142

Guild groups or just the whole server still runs all kinds of dungeons? Cuz even on the LA overflows everyone is always spamming LFG FOTM.

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Posted by: GummiBear.2756

GummiBear.2756

Maybe you should transfer servers. JQ server has people running all sorts of dungeons all the time. Also try gw2lfg.com

hmm okay didn’t know about that site, but tbh that site kinda enforces OP’s point imo, if you look there about 95% of them are FOTM groups…

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Posted by: Urthona.3198

Urthona.3198

I agree with the OP. Another issue he doesn’t bring up is the problem getting bored with Fractals. I’d like a reason to run multiple things just for variety’s sake. Even WoW gives you an incentive to keep running the previous 5-mans when a new tier of raid is introduced.

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Posted by: Lord Aargadon.4135

Lord Aargadon.4135

I can’t give you sources, but I’ve heard guildies rumor about ascended gear going to come from dungeons explorable mode chest and just better and more unique drops from them. As for finding groups for dungeons, I just ask my guild to do an explorable with me and do it, so no trouble with finding groups. FotM on the other hand, Ive had crudload of issues with so Im only lvl3 after 10 runs, 7 of those resulted in DC’d teamates so we could not progress(dredge suit boss), me disconnecting and client crashes that have been even more frequent with Lost Shores update.

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Posted by: GummiBear.2756

GummiBear.2756

I can’t give you sources, but I’ve heard guildies rumor about ascended gear going to come from dungeons explorable mode chest and just better and more unique drops from them.

Rumors are generally 0% reliable really, hell at this point in time i imagine most ppl barely trust things the dev’s says directly, and simply want to see before they trust/believe it.

And not all people are in big guilds with tons of lvl 80’s they can just ask and get a run with whenever they want

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Posted by: Nox Aeterna.2965

Nox Aeterna.2965

I can’t give you sources, but I’ve heard guildies rumor about ascended gear going to come from dungeons explorable mode chest and just better and more unique drops from them.

Rumors are generally 0% reliable really, hell at this point in time i imagine most ppl barely trust things the dev’s says directly, and simply want to see before they trust/believe it.

And not all people are in big guilds with tons of lvl 80’s they can just ask and get a run with whenever they want

Yeah pretty much anything Anet says means nothing to me. Is like believing in a politician, they wont tell you the truth mate , they will lie all they want/need just to make you hear what you want to hear , that is all.

The good side is , im in one of those 500 guilds full of 80s all around , so yeah finding a dungeon group is not a hard task.

That is how im getting my HotW gear and AC weapons.

Honestly the old content is not obsolete , it is doing what it was meant to do , atract players for the skins.

The problem is , now there is content calling players for stats. Skins cant compete.

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Posted by: GummiBear.2756

GummiBear.2756

The problem is , now there is content calling players for stats. Skins cant compete.

Yep that is the root of the problem i believe too, and i dont think that would ahve to had to be the casue to get ppl to play the fractals. I actualy like the fractals once in a while but i dont want to grind them non-stop jsut to get that stupid ascended gear. If you ask me in the first place they should juse have had ascended have the same amount of stats as a exotic+its jewel and then be the only armor with infusion slots making it only needed in fractals, yet still usefull, but not needed in anything else (though that is probably too late to change now, without cause too much outrage from ppl that alread have it)

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Posted by: Lord Aargadon.4135

Lord Aargadon.4135

Yeah, unfortunately Im going to agree with you two on several points. Rumor is really unreliably, no duh. Second, its not just stats that are calling people to fractals, its the great drop rates, skins, AND easier mob mechanics. No tedious mobs with garguntuan health pools besides bosses, which is how it should be anyways. Also I think I would rather have infusion act like GW1 or how GummiBear stated, no stats bonus only infusion extra slot, but Im not quite 100% sure where I stand yet on this matter.

Turns out WvW will be getting ascended gear, as answered by Chris on the AMA yesterday, so my hearings of rumor, weren’t right, but FotM won’t be he only place to get ascended quality gear anymore.