Guild Wars 2

Before I begin, let me clarify some things:

a.) Yes, I am a zerk war and i have been using omnom pies as a way to increase sustain and survivability extensivelty.

b.) Yes, I agree that ANet had to do something about the extent to wich the buff could be used to regain an incredible amount of health when surrounded by large amounts of mobs.

As an avid dungeon runner, I have gotten used to tanking for the ranged classes, and often help out pugs lokking for help on any dungeon because the omnom buff enabled a good level of sustain for the warrior and i was enjoying this.

With that said, I believe that they have nerfed it more that it actually needed to be, making it almost useless compared to what i believe it was intended to do at first.
At a 1 sec cooldown, i find it to be completely useless, and while i’m still PERFECTLY fine gameplay wise, I had to adapt my strategies to this and switch to ranged at more than regular intervals, and i’m not enjoying this. I know I won’t be buying omnom pies again if it stays like this, because the other lvl 80 foods are simply way better… (butternut squash soup anyone?)

Let’s be honest… 66% chance to have 300 hp back every second might sound nice at first, but the fact is you have to be dealing constant damage for it to proc. I am here to promote talk about coming up with a middleground…

I believe if not mistaken the point of this nerf was to keep large aoe attacks like the axe whirl and hb for example to steal a ridiculous amount of health. So… what about a 0.5 cd? People who were not abusing this before would still be able to a a nice bit of sustain to their builds when in difficult situations and still keep it from being abused. Still op? why not simply a decrease in chance to proc?

I’m in no way QQing, I just don’t personnaly agree with that change… discuss!

TL;DR IMO, a-net might have nerfed omnoms a bit too much and rendered the food almost completely useless compared to other buffs out there, not only effectively fixing the exploits that were relying on this, but negating the advantages alltogether.
a 0.5 sec cooldown, maybe paired with a decrease in chance to proc could bring back a little bit of usefulness to it don’t you think?

get a non-zerk build?

only food i use is magic find related. and i survived a lot of things.
but maybe would be nice just to have food buffs out of wvw (where according to me there was a real issue, like with spykits. and pve food buffs just stay the same.
have i a super powered warrior in my party? welcome you mighty one.

You could play better and not use it at all.

runeblade.7514:

You could play better and not use it at all.

I fail to see anything constructive in replies so far…
I have retraited with 30 in tactics and i’m doing more than fine, and still decent damage. I just thought maybe for the sake of preserving the little build diversity we already have, it would be a good idea to not have to go back to shouts for healing. And there is no way i rolled a warrior to be a ranged class, not happening.

That was not the point of this post at all, nothing to do with preserving my own little niche build, i was thinking about other classes as well as that buff was enabling greater build diversity by making up for some weaknesses.

Guess i’ll keep my two cents and go buy some cheap candy.

Tell you what. I’m probably one of the worst melee setups in the game, toolkit/bomb engineer and (dont let this get around) I use masterwork magic-find on my character for all PvE even dungeons (not high fracs or WvW.) I can get right up behind mobs and “nuke” them for everything I’ve got with no problem. When I do get aggro I can kite most things with nails+glue for cripples, and if the mob has a charge/leap or other cheap shot ability I have gear shield. I don’t go down very often, in fact I’m often the last guy alive during a bossfight that goes bad, and everyone gets to view me via floorcam for a small demonstration on how the fight was supposed to go.

If I can do all that while eating only magic-find food, all the poor beleaguered zerker warriors can find a way to get good or use a different build, and stop reminiscing over overpowered crutches.

The only problem here is that omnomberry pies dragged all the other foods into the nerf-pit with it. Ghost Pepper Poppers were not at all OP and were dirt cheap and severely underused despite being a lvl 80 food that had decent might-stack potential during the day, and an actual unique fun mechanic to apply chill during the night. It was a lot of fun procing chill using the flamethrower. Now It’s gimped to hell which is just wonderful.

One letter, one word:

S Boon.

That’s how A-net does nerfs.

Chickenshoes.6250:

The only problem here is that omnomberry pies dragged all the other foods into the nerf-pit with it. Ghost Pepper Poppers were not at all OP and were dirt cheap and severely underused despite being a lvl 80 food that had decent might-stack potential during the day, and an actual unique fun mechanic to apply chill during the night. It was a lot of fun procing chill using the flamethrower. Now It’s gimped to hell which is just wonderful.

This is a point I wanted to bring up for discussion. I posted about it in this thread (my last post in it):
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/suggestions/On-Crit-Effects-Food/first#post1519587

The topic is valid…in the context of food balance, not so much just Omnomberry pie. Pretty much all on-crit food as well as comparative effectiveness with other foods is something we need to discuss as I’ve felt in an issue ever since getting a character 400 cooking and trying all different kinds of foods.

While I could see an adjustment up for the Omnomberry pie, it should be with all other food in mind, not simply for the sake of abusing life-steal.

For instance, IMO, probably the best foods out there are Truffle Steak Dinner, Truffle and Meat Stew and Veggie Pizza (Butternut Squash Soup is up there though). They’re versatile and effective at what they do but stuff like Ghost Pepper Poppers or Seaweed Salad are very meh because of how unreliable they can be by comparison.

What needs to be discussed, IMO again, is comparative usefulness of the variety of foods. Then we can bring up foods that are lacking, not just buff up pie to be better than the rest.