Guild Wars 2

TL;DR: Just as there are versions of the same skills in PvE and PvP that are separate for the sake of balance, there needs to be versions of the same skills for WvW. This is so that when someone wants a nerf of skills in WvW, it will not affect those playing PvE.

It is pretty obvious that there is a difference in the effectiveness of skills in PvE and WvW. Whenever you are attacking a real player, who reacts in an unpredictable manner, rather than an NPC, skills will be more or less effective. Much to often, I have seen nerfs to PvE skills for the sake of WvW balance. Typically, this comes at the cost of the synergy and efficiency of builds I have created in PvE. I don’t participate in WvW, never want to. However, I am a little tired of having my skills be nerfed because of the woes of WvW players. I get it that Mesmers/Thieves/Elementalists may be OP in WvW, and, by all means, nerf them into the ground. Just separate those skills and traits that you nerf from the PvE ones that people who do dungeons and other PvE activities use. I shouldn’t be affected when some player goes on to the forums and makes the millionth post about how some profession beat him and how they should be nerfed if I never do WvW.

It only makes sense that if you are going to separate PvP skills and PvE skills for the sake of balance, that you would also separate WvW skills and PvE skills. Please do this.

WvW not made to be fair.

Gonna have to take a pass on this one, let’s keep it simple as there are already more than enough choices for each class on abilities.

No… What I am saying is: There are versions of each PvE Skill in PvP with reduced damage or whatever for the sake of balance. Why not make versions of PvE Skills for WvW, rather than nerfing PvE skills because of their affects in WvW.

Goose.5196:

No… What I am saying is: There are versions of each PvE Skill in PvP with reduced damage or whatever for the sake of balance. Why not make versions of PvE Skills for WvW, rather than nerfing PvE skills because of their affects in WvW.

Like Mesmer portal? Its the only thing that was truly nerfed because of WvW. Every thing else was a mix of pve wvw reason.

It just doesn’t make sense logically. I am not going to rattle off every nerf to every profession that was made at the behest of sorrowful WvW players. Why would WvW use PvE skills when it is obviously a PvP area? PvE enemies have more health and do more damage at times than PvP/WvW players. Also, PvP/WvW players move faster than PvE NPCs. Just separate them. It can’t be that hard.

Aeonblade.8709:

Gonna have to take a pass on this one, let’s keep it simple as there are already more than enough choices for each class on abilities.

oh? I can group all of the Thief’s builds in to 3 basic category. Spike, Condition, Evasive.