Please Stop The Item Power-Creep.

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Posted by: Akimbo.4835

Akimbo.4835

This is my main complaint about GW2.

In GW1, top stat gear wasn’t very hard to obtain. This put everyone on an equal playing field as far as raw damage went.

What made the difference was player skill and character skills.

What made certain items valuable, was the difficulty in obtaining/the cost of various item skins.

This was a much better system. The numbers side was an equal playing field. Yet competition between players to have the rarest gear was still very hot.

In GW2, I wont ever have a chance to do Fractal runs. I simply don’t have the time to get the ascended gear. I don’t even have the time to get full exotic gear, which used to be the best!

Now instead of being not too far behind (mostly rares), I’m falling behind the power creep of item updates. If this was just a visual factor, such as rare skins, then I wouldn’t have a problem with it. However the problem is in the raw numbers.

I wont get picked for a dungeon group, because I don’t have the time to farm top tier items.

It encourages people like me with a job (and dare I say, a life) to find gold sellers so that I can play with a group when my friends arn’t online. Why would I not buy gems and convert them to gold? Because they’re a rip off.

I’m not saying to get rid of Ascended items now they’re here, but just be a little more considerate towards players who can’t play so much to get top tier gear.

That’s the thought behind my suggestion/complaint. Now in quick form, are some ideas:

1) Dramatically increase the drop rate of green items from levels 1-60.
2) Dramatically increase the drop rate of rare items from levels 61-80.
3) Moderately increase the drop rate of exotics from Veterans and Champions at level 76+

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Posted by: drifter.8453

drifter.8453

Your post has valuable points in it I do agree. But I think the problem is the Gem vs Gold Ratio in the store. The gold payout is so low from what the price of gems go for, compaired to the cost of special items. like recipes and such.

I think the real reason to get legendaries and those that have one most likely did not get them legitly do to the shopping list of Mats – Gold cost – Karma points – Skill points – 400 in Weaponsmith – Recipes.

So as it stands, based on the drop rate of the mats is so low, and it takes so many things to make one thing in crafting, it will take a long time to get all the stuff needed just for a legendary. The only reason why people seem to have a legendary is do to buying game gold from a third party seller. I guarntee they bought the gold to increase all above faster.

So if you want a legendary or ascended gear your only option is to buy from third party gold sellers? Kinda piss poor game design if you ask me. People with the bigger wallets get the best things.

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Posted by: Onshidesigns.1069

Onshidesigns.1069

Don’t just stop it. Reset it.

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Posted by: Coltz.5617

Coltz.5617

Your post has valuable points in it I do agree. But I think the problem is the Gem vs Gold Ratio in the store. The gold payout is so low from what the price of gems go for, compaired to the cost of special items. like recipes and such.

However in terms of ascended you just need more time, even a casual player would eventually get it. Its still not too far off difficult to get yet. However they are now on the borderline. Anything above ascended could become a problem, Now it is still very much skill based. To those that only have people with ascended gear join their party aren’t being reasonable anyways.

I think the real reason to get legendaries and those that have one most likely did not get them legitly do to the shopping list of Mats – Gold cost – Karma points – Skill points – 400 in Weaponsmith – Recipes.

So as it stands, based on the drop rate of the mats is so low, and it takes so many things to make one thing in crafting, it will take a long time to get all the stuff needed just for a legendary. The only reason why people seem to have a legendary is do to buying game gold from a third party seller. I guarntee they bought the gold to increase all above faster.

So if you want a legendary or ascended gear your only option is to buy from third party gold sellers? Kinda piss poor game design if you ask me. People with the bigger wallets get the best things.

What you are referring to is no longer about the game design. But how things work, no matter what you do or what game you play If you have a bigger wallet you will be more ahead. In this case GW2 Legendary weapons are mostly for boast and cosmetics, so even if you have a bigger wallet it doesn’t mean they are better.

Just think of the ones who bought third party gold for a legendary are also the ones that bears the knowledge of the guilt they didn’t do it legitimately and would never get the satisfaction of doing so anymore.

For ascended gear it is still on the borderline of causing too much of a ripple between raw stats and skills ( to a casual player ). It is still fine, but anymore above ascended would be too much. People who only let others with ascended to join their group are just people looking for similar people with just as much time and experience is all.

- I infract cause I’m passionate about the game-
“ALL IS VAIN”
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/gf-left-me-coz-of-ladderboar/page/6#post3486969

(edited by Coltz.5617)

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Posted by: drifter.8453

drifter.8453

Well as I see it. The devs wanted a source of income, besides the base price, so they come up with this bright idea to create a tool to give them the income they want, without paying a sub fee. So they make a gem store to be able to trade gold for gems.

Which then allows them to flucuate the price of in game things to there liking. Based on the payout of gems vs Gold. This will guarntee them some type of income. Then a player comes in and see’s the Gem vs Gold payout is a bit on the low end compaired to the prices listed on things in game, then before you know it, here come the gold sellers that offer more gold then what the prices show from the gem store.

If it is that easy to accumulate your gold do to you having the bigger wallet then what choice are you gonna take? The easiest way possible, because humans want everything the easiest way. Look at all the little things in life that we spend billions and billions of dollars on, to make our lives easier.

Then a player comes in, see’s the shopping list of all the mats for a legendary and all the gold and time required just to get one. They will take the easiest route and fastest way to acquire a legendary weapon. IE. buy gold off sellers, to help get the mats faster. While I’m at it my’s well buy more gold to buy a precursor off the TP. That will save me even more time. Ohh look at my new Legendary it only took me a few weeks to get. I din’t waste any Karma on exotics so I just about got the Karma cost covered.

I have three 80’s and one half way to 80, not because I chosed to, because when I made the level cap with my first character I was nowhere close to all the mats needed for a legendary. Two more 80’s later the only thing I had 250 or more mats in my collection bank where copper ore, Iron ore, soft wood, tiny scales, tiny totems, and the lowest venom. Most of the other stuff was close to 100. Yes 250 is the cap in the collections bank.

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Posted by: Torvarren.6295

Torvarren.6295

They already said they did all 3 of your suggestions and also stated that they weren’t going to have the item progression like other games of introducing a new tier every 3 months, ascended is the highest and will stay the highest for a very long time.

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Posted by: gimmethegepgun.1284

gimmethegepgun.1284

They already said they did all 3 of your suggestions and also stated that they weren’t going to have the item progression like other games of introducing a new tier every 3 months, ascended is the highest and will stay the highest for a very long time.

And yet the Ascended tier came out roughly 2 1/2 months after launch, which really isn’t far off from that 3 month figure.
I think the obvious worries of the treadmill are well-founded considering they basically lied about that.
If they truly didn’t want a treadmill they never even would’ve given a second thought to adding another (higher) rarity tier post-launch.

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Posted by: Kaimick.5109

Kaimick.5109

Your post has valuable points in it I do agree. But I think the problem is the Gem vs Gold Ratio in the store. The gold payout is so low from what the price of gems go for, compaired to the cost of special items. like recipes and such.

However in terms of ascended you just need more time, even a casual player would eventually get it. Its still not too far off difficult to get yet. However they are now on the borderline. Anything above ascended could become a problem, Now it is still very much skill based. To those that only have people with ascended gear join their party aren’t being reasonable anyways.

I think the real reason to get legendaries and those that have one most likely did not get them legitly do to the shopping list of Mats – Gold cost – Karma points – Skill points – 400 in Weaponsmith – Recipes.

So as it stands, based on the drop rate of the mats is so low, and it takes so many things to make one thing in crafting, it will take a long time to get all the stuff needed just for a legendary. The only reason why people seem to have a legendary is do to buying game gold from a third party seller. I guarntee they bought the gold to increase all above faster.

So if you want a legendary or ascended gear your only option is to buy from third party gold sellers? Kinda piss poor game design if you ask me. People with the bigger wallets get the best things.

What you are referring to is no longer about the game design. But how things work, no matter what you do or what game you play If you have a bigger wallet you will be more ahead. In this case GW2 Legendary weapons are mostly for boast and cosmetics, so even if you have a bigger wallet it doesn’t mean they are better.

Just think of the ones who bought third party gold for a legendary are also the ones that bears the knowledge of the guilt they didn’t do it legitimately and would never get the satisfaction of doing so anymore.

For ascended gear it is still on the borderline of causing too much of a ripple between raw stats and skills ( to a casual player ). It is still fine, but anymore above ascended would be too much. People who only let others with ascended to join their group are just people looking for similar people with just as much time and experience is all.

He is right you can purchase Gems with Real world money then convert them to Gold to buy the mats.

Soo 400 gems as I just looked is 7.85 gold a 2000 gem card cost 30 dollars
So someone can spend 140.00 to buy all the mats for the Legendary, then they have to do Map completion. Personally I farmed for 2 weeks and got all the mats for my weapon. Well the raw materials and another 2 weeks to get the rest of the obscure mats. Then about 3 weeks for 100% map completion for the other item and finnaly obtaining the precurser.

If someone wants to spend $140.00 Real world money on a game to get a legendary if not more, and they are that desperate to have it why does it matter?

They are no better than you, in WvWvW. I faced a Warrior with the 2 hander before i got my Legendary and he hurt when he hit, but I still beat him. They are not God because they have a legendary.