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Plz put orr back to the way it was.
i agree with you, i liked grenth event too, not for the loot (thakitten was nerfed since people failed the events in order to get lodestones and various shinies), but because i enjoyed it.
it was challenging enough imo, you couldn’t ress people if corrupted to fight shades, you couldn’t fight shades if you wanted to ress people and the shades were enough to kill you… now it’s simply too difficult and complainers don’t even do… so what’s the point?
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Go play on a more populated server then. I play on Tarnished Coast and every temple gets taken at least once a day. I also never see any of the 3 Orr zones empty. It’s either your server or your timezone that’s causing your problem.
Go play on a more populated server then. I play on Tarnished Coast and every temple gets taken at least once a day. I also never see any of the 3 Orr zones empty. It’s either your server or your timezone that’s causing your problem.
Nope on des server its more pve than pvp.
There are plenty of ppl.
The temples were done all the time untill the stupid ninja patches,now they don’t get done at all.
Maybe your’s gets done once a day prob by a skillful guild,but even once a day is pretty low.
they should be done all the time.
Also moving server or guesting is not the solution now is it.
it just shows they are too hard for the adv pugs simple as that.
Go play on a more populated server then. I play on Tarnished Coast and every temple gets taken at least once a day. I also never see any of the 3 Orr zones empty. It’s either your server or your timezone that’s causing your problem.
Nope on des server its more pve than pvp.
There are plenty of ppl.
The temples were done all the time untill the stupid ninja patches,now they don’t get done at all.Maybe your’s gets done once a day prob by a skillful guild,but even once a day is pretty low.
they should be done all the time.
Also moving server or guesting is not the solution now is it.
it just shows they are too hard for the adv pugs simple as that.
My god they are borderline brainless easy as they are. Some tweaks could be used on a few (glass NPC’s in escorts are no fun) but the last thing GW2 needs to do is make things easier. My guild quite regularly attempts the statues, Lyssa/Dwyna/Melandru always get done why Balth/Greth depends on how badly pugs draw enemies to the glass NPCs.
You can do many of the staues with just 5 players. Here’s a guide for the lyssa statue, grab 4 freinds and go for it with this stratagey:
Go play on a more populated server then. I play on Tarnished Coast and every temple gets taken at least once a day. I also never see any of the 3 Orr zones empty. It’s either your server or your timezone that’s causing your problem.
Nope on des server its more pve than pvp.
There are plenty of ppl.
The temples were done all the time untill the stupid ninja patches,now they don’t get done at all.Maybe your’s gets done once a day prob by a skillful guild,but even once a day is pretty low.
they should be done all the time.
Also moving server or guesting is not the solution now is it.
it just shows they are too hard for the adv pugs simple as that.
Sorry, but no. I’m usually there for the events each day and it’s always just somebody saying “(Temple’s name) event starting” and then everybody gathers. I never see any large guilds gathering all their members to do it – it’s always just PUGs. And if that’s not good enough then people will go to Lion’s Arch to ask for more help which always brings in at least 10 or so more people. Play at peak hours on a populated server and you’ll have no problem.
Go play on a more populated server then. I play on Tarnished Coast and every temple gets taken at least once a day. I also never see any of the 3 Orr zones empty. It’s either your server or your timezone that’s causing your problem.
Nope on des server its more pve than pvp.
There are plenty of ppl.
The temples were done all the time untill the stupid ninja patches,now they don’t get done at all.Maybe your’s gets done once a day prob by a skillful guild,but even once a day is pretty low.
they should be done all the time.
Also moving server or guesting is not the solution now is it.
it just shows they are too hard for the adv pugs simple as that.My god they are borderline brainless easy as they are. Some tweaks could be used on a few (glass NPC’s in escorts are no fun) but the last thing GW2 needs to do is make things easier. My guild quite regularly attempts the statues, Lyssa/Dwyna/Melandru always get done why Balth/Greth depends on how badly pugs draw enemies to the glass NPCs.
You can do many of the staues with just 5 players. Here’s a guide for the lyssa statue, grab 4 freinds and go for it with this stratagey:
It’s grenth that’s the prob mostly other can be done.
but still grenth with that aoe champ right at the end that one shots the npc don’t help.
but still they do need toning down,as they never get done now.
Where as before they always got done.
So that alone shows ppl don’t want to do them because they are harder.
like i said if you want a good challenge with your mates you got the dungeons.
This also punishes ppl who just got to orr as well,it’s not like they have the best gear to cope with that.
Also prob puts them off staying there or doing the temples.
if you want hard mode do the dungeons.
Also i did guest in the past on a few servers only to find they don’t get done there as well.
again just shows ppl don’t do them because there to hard now.
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Go play on a more populated server then. I play on Tarnished Coast and every temple gets taken at least once a day. I also never see any of the 3 Orr zones empty. It’s either your server or your timezone that’s causing your problem.
Nope on des server its more pve than pvp.
There are plenty of ppl.
The temples were done all the time untill the stupid ninja patches,now they don’t get done at all.Maybe your’s gets done once a day prob by a skillful guild,but even once a day is pretty low.
they should be done all the time.
Also moving server or guesting is not the solution now is it.
it just shows they are too hard for the adv pugs simple as that.My god they are borderline brainless easy as they are. Some tweaks could be used on a few (glass NPC’s in escorts are no fun) but the last thing GW2 needs to do is make things easier. My guild quite regularly attempts the statues, Lyssa/Dwyna/Melandru always get done why Balth/Greth depends on how badly pugs draw enemies to the glass NPCs.
You can do many of the staues with just 5 players. Here’s a guide for the lyssa statue, grab 4 freinds and go for it with this stratagey:It’s grenth that’s the prob mostly other can be done.
but still grenth with that aoe champ right at the end that one shots the npc don’t help.
but still they do need toning down,as they never get done now.Where as before they always got done.
So that alone shows ppl don;t want to do them because they are harder.
like i said if you want a good challenge with your mates you got the dungeons.
If you want things to get done, then go organize a group. Get your friends, their guildmates, your guildmates, random people in LA, ask the people in all 3 Orr maps, and you’ll have more than enough people to do it as long as everybody knows what needs to be done. Instead of making content easier so you can faceroll everything, go organize some players to work together and get kitten done. Things in this game don’t need to get any easier, and the temples are already easy enough to the majority of players.
So, the answer is, if you want to have fun in Orr, leave your server? No, sorry. These are not dungeons. Players should not have to check a forum to see if another server is about to do a temple — if that server even bothers to post.
ANet’s tinkering with the scaling is not working across all servers. Assuming you have some minimum number of players — this being a group event — the scaling should make the event challenging but doable and fun. Not tedious, not a massive slog, not something that everyone on my server (and by reports, on other servers as well) is avoiding like the plague.
Go play on a more populated server then. I play on Tarnished Coast and every temple gets taken at least once a day. I also never see any of the 3 Orr zones empty. It’s either your server or your timezone that’s causing your problem.
Nope on des server its more pve than pvp.
There are plenty of ppl.
The temples were done all the time untill the stupid ninja patches,now they don’t get done at all.Maybe your’s gets done once a day prob by a skillful guild,but even once a day is pretty low.
they should be done all the time.
Also moving server or guesting is not the solution now is it.
it just shows they are too hard for the adv pugs simple as that.My god they are borderline brainless easy as they are. Some tweaks could be used on a few (glass NPC’s in escorts are no fun) but the last thing GW2 needs to do is make things easier. My guild quite regularly attempts the statues, Lyssa/Dwyna/Melandru always get done why Balth/Greth depends on how badly pugs draw enemies to the glass NPCs.
You can do many of the staues with just 5 players. Here’s a guide for the lyssa statue, grab 4 freinds and go for it with this stratagey:It’s grenth that’s the prob mostly other can be done.
but still grenth with that aoe champ right at the end that one shots the npc don’t help.
but still they do need toning down,as they never get done now.Where as before they always got done.
So that alone shows ppl don;t want to do them because they are harder.
like i said if you want a good challenge with your mates you got the dungeons.If you want things to get done, then go organize a group. Get your friends, their guildmates, your guildmates, random people in LA, ask the people in all 3 Orr maps, and you’ll have more than enough people to do it as long as everybody knows what needs to be done. Instead of making content easier so you can faceroll everything, go organize some players to work together and get kitten done. Things in this game don’t need to get any easier, and the temples are already easy enough to the majority of players.
Then why are they always contested on many servers?
That’s right because there a lot harder and grenth impossible with the one shot champ aoe at the last min of the event.
Hence why ppl don’t do them now on most servers.
So, the answer is, if you want to have fun in Orr, leave your server?
No, the answer is to organize people to get kitten done on your own server. And if you really want it that badly and nobody else gives a kitten, go guest somewhere else if it means that much to you. As already stated, most of the temples can be done with about 5 people. The only exceptions to this are Balth and Grenth which are also both very easy if done right. For Balth, just get more than 1 set of reinforcements and make sure to AOE spam like crazy when the nobles appear. For Grenth, just AoE spam the kitten out of everything especially where the NPC is so that you immediately pull aggro away from him. These events aren’t made to be done by 3 players, how anti-climatic is that? Just go ask people in the maps and cities for help, or go ask your own guild or other people’s guilds for help. More-than-likely you’ll get enough people willing to help, then it’s all up to your skill. If you know what you’re doing, you’ll be fine. If you don’t, then you don’t deserve to conquer the temple.
Then why are they always contested on many servers?
That’s right because there a lot harder and grenth impossible with the one shot champ aoe at the last min of the event.
Hence why ppl don’t do them now on most servers.
Of course they’re harder than they used to be, just like they should be. And the reason they’re uncontested is because everybody wants the reward with no effort put into the process. Nobody cares enough to go and say “Hey Lion’s Arch! We’re trying to capture (Temple Name here) and we could really use some more help!” because it’s easier to just complain on the forum about it being too hard just like you are doing right now. If you know how to properly pull aggro off of the NPC in time then you’ll have no problem with him getting 1-shot. If he still gets 1-shot then you – the players – are doing something wrong.
People don’t do them because nobody organizes the people.
So, the answer is, if you want to have fun in Orr, leave your server?
No, the answer is to organize people to get kitten done on your own server. And if you really want it that badly and nobody else gives a kitten, go guest somewhere else if it means that much to you. As already stated, most of the temples can be done with about 5 people. The only exceptions to this are Balth and Grenth which are also both very easy if done right. For Balth, just get more than 1 set of reinforcements and make sure to AOE spam like crazy when the nobles appear. For Grenth, just AoE spam the kitten out of everything especially where the NPC is so that you immediately pull aggro away from him. These events aren’t made to be done by 3 players, how anti-climatic is that? Just go ask people in the maps and cities for help, or go ask your own guild or other people’s guilds for help. More-than-likely you’ll get enough people willing to help, then it’s all up to your skill. If you know what you’re doing, you’ll be fine. If you don’t, then you don’t deserve to conquer the temple.
Then why are they always contested on many servers?
That’s right because there a lot harder and grenth impossible with the one shot champ aoe at the last min of the event.
Hence why ppl don’t do them now on most servers.Of course they’re harder than they used to be, just like they should be. And the reason they’re uncontested is because everybody wants the reward with no effort put into the process. Nobody cares enough to go and say “Hey Lion’s Arch! We’re trying to capture (Temple Name here) and we could really use some more help!” because it’s easier to just complain on the forum about it being too hard just like you are doing right now. If you know how to properly pull aggro off of the NPC in time then you’ll have no problem with him getting 1-shot. If he still gets 1-shot then you – the players – are doing something wrong.
People don’t do them because nobody organizes the people.
You don’t have a clue or never done grenth lately.
we have enough ppl but 1 min before the end the champ wrath appears with his massive aoe and kill jones and us in one shot.
Also why should we run to la and cost us silver just to ask for more ppl and prob get abuse in the chat as well as the event failed in the mean time,with the messing about getting ppl.
The events are meant to scale are they not?
Just because your server can just about do it,does not mean every server can.
I wish we all had a good guild to carry us,because thats the only way grenth would get done with a bit of luck i might add.
like i said you want a challenge do the dungeons that’s what there there for,but don’t rune events because they seem easer in your eyes.
as for the rewards a rare item wow i would rather not have it,as you get the same reward doing the dragons that are 10x easer.
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You don’t have a clue or never done grenth lately.
we have enough ppl but 1 min before the end the champ wrath appears with his massive aoe and kill jones and us in one shot.
Also why should we run to la and cost us silver just to ask for more ppl and prob get abuse in the chat as well as the event failed in the mean time,with the messing about getting ppl.
The events are meant to scale are they not?
Just because your server can just about do it,does not mean every server can.
I wish we all had a good guild to carry us,because thats the only way grenth would get done with a bit of luck i might add.like i said you want a challenge do the dungeons that’s what there there for,but don’t rune events because they seem easer in your eyes.
Actually, I’ve done Grenth at least 7 times in the past week. Of those 7 times, we – if I remember correctly – succeeded five of the times. How? With coordination. If spending a couple of silver to go to LA to ask people in the chat politely for help then it really must not mean a much to you. It’s obvious you just want everything to be easy enough for you to do it without putting in any effort. And you go while the NPC is heading up to the temple, and you only need one single person to go ask for help. I sure do wish I had a good guild to carry me through all the barely-challenging content in the game too, then I wouldn’t even have to play anymore! I could just let everybody else do all the hard work like you want! Any server can do it with the coordination of it’s members. It’s up to you or somebody else to get that coordination started. If you can organize at least 10 people, make sure everybody knows EXACTLY what to do, and are properly geared for the zone, then you STILL fail, then I might believe this event needs nerfed a LITTLE bit.
Ppl are not going to spend over 3 silver to goto to la then 3 silver to warp back,then having to run all the way there because there is no portal near by.
ppl like to make money not spent it warping to places to get ppl.
Also you keep missing the part where i said we have enough ppl anyway,but the champ wrath still does us over by one shoting us and the npc.
After so many fails ppl don’t bother doing it again.
Also If a lot of servers are avoiding it then something is wrong.
Anet needs to look into the prob and fix it so many server starts doing them again.
also it’s not about us wanting easy mode it’s about us wanting fun.
these events are not fun now there more frustrating.
I’m going to ignore your replys from now on,as your opinion means nothing when many servers are struggling to do it or not doing them at all now.then something is wrong simple fact.
Most of us want fun events not Frustrating events.
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Ppl are not going to spend over 3 silver to goto to la then 3 silver to warp back,then having to run all the way there because there is no portal near by.
And even if they did the champ wrath will mess the event over anyway.
ppl like to make money not spent it warping to places to get ppl.If a lot of servers are not doing it then something is wrong.
That does not make your opinion right now does it.
Anet needs to look into the prob and fix it so many server starts doing them again.
also it’s not about us wanting easy mode it’s about us wanting fun.
these events are not fun now there more of a chore.I’m going to ignore your replys from now on,as your opinion means nothing to me when many servers are struggling to do it or not doing them now.then something is wrong simple fact.
We want fun events not frustration.
1. Plenty of people will spend 3 measly silver to go to an event which is going to guarantee a rare or possibly an exotic. They’d be making a profit of 15s+ if they managed to succeed.
2. The wraith won’t mess up the event if you do it right.
3. The events are plenty of fun, just not to you.
Don’t worry, I’m sure if enough people keep on begging Anet to nerf everything so it’s easier then they’ll eventually do it, unfortunately. Dwayna forbid that you have to actually work to earn something in this game. Have fun complaining on the forums while in the meantime you could be working to organize a group of players to do the event or guesting to another server if it meant that much to you.
I just went to la said grenth up,just to see what reply i got.
the reply i got was sod grenth stupid event and always fails.
yeah going to la really works then.
I have guested,and most of the servers i been to was contested.
so again i should not go guesting to do an event when i’m on a full server anyway.
it just shows ppl are avoiding these events now.
and sticking with the 10x easer ones the dragons.
Also earn what?
A stupid rare that’s worth peanuts.
i do the events for fun not a stupid rare,but where’s the fun when no one is doing them or you/npc gets one shotted all the time by champs.
If i wanted easer rewards i would do the dragons all the time,and not complain on the forum to make these temples and other areas scale better and be more fun.
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The only part I hate about Grenth is, if the priestess for whatever reason is drawn near Jonez, it’s kitten hard to draw the priestess back from him…you have to basically have EVERYONE, even the randoms that decided to join, to run to the back or else she just turns aggro to someone else nearby and keeps spamming AoEs.
Basically, if the priestess is past the middle of the room, you might as well start over :P
Grenth is hardly impossible, people just don’t take the time to figure it out. A group of 8 people on SoS did it with no trouble, because even the ones who had never been there before observed what the rest were doing and followed the example. Instead of complaining that the events are too hard, start teaching people how to fix what they keep messing up.
Grenth is hardly impossible, people just don’t take the time to figure it out. A group of 8 people on SoS did it with no trouble, because even the ones who had never been there before observed what the rest were doing and followed the example. Instead of complaining that the events are too hard, start teaching people how to fix what they keep messing up.
You know, I almost soloed the first part of Grenth temple :P
Kitten started hitting the fan when people joined in after I got her down to 2/3 HP. If no one woulda came, I’m sure I could have kited the last phase.
So, the answer is, if you want to have fun in Orr, leave your server?
No, the answer is to organize people to get kitten done on your own server. And if you really want it that badly and nobody else gives a kitten, go guest somewhere else if it means that much to you. As already stated, most of the temples can be done with about 5 people. The only exceptions to this are Balth and Grenth which are also both very easy if done right. For Balth, just get more than 1 set of reinforcements and make sure to AOE spam like crazy when the nobles appear. For Grenth, just AoE spam the kitten out of everything especially where the NPC is so that you immediately pull aggro away from him. These events aren’t made to be done by 3 players, how anti-climatic is that? Just go ask people in the maps and cities for help, or go ask your own guild or other people’s guilds for help. More-than-likely you’ll get enough people willing to help, then it’s all up to your skill. If you know what you’re doing, you’ll be fine. If you don’t, then you don’t deserve to conquer the temple.
Then why are they always contested on many servers?
That’s right because there a lot harder and grenth impossible with the one shot champ aoe at the last min of the event.
Hence why ppl don’t do them now on most servers.Of course they’re harder than they used to be, just like they should be. And the reason they’re uncontested is because everybody wants the reward with no effort put into the process. Nobody cares enough to go and say “Hey Lion’s Arch! We’re trying to capture (Temple Name here) and we could really use some more help!” because it’s easier to just complain on the forum about it being too hard just like you are doing right now. If you know how to properly pull aggro off of the NPC in time then you’ll have no problem with him getting 1-shot. If he still gets 1-shot then you – the players – are doing something wrong.
People don’t do them because nobody organizes the people.
You don’t have a clue or never done grenth lately.
we have enough ppl but 1 min before the end the champ wrath appears with his massive aoe and kill jones and us in one shot.
Also why should we run to la and cost us silver just to ask for more ppl and prob get abuse in the chat as well as the event failed in the mean time,with the messing about getting ppl.
The events are meant to scale are they not?
Just because your server can just about do it,does not mean every server can.
I wish we all had a good guild to carry us,because thats the only way grenth would get done with a bit of luck i might add.like i said you want a challenge do the dungeons that’s what there there for,but don’t rune events because they seem easer in your eyes.
as for the rewards a rare item wow i would rather not have it,as you get the same reward doing the dragons that are 10x easer.
I do HATE that NPC is glassy as heck. As soon as the Legendary priest goes down we res the fallen and form a line WELL in front of Jonez. We leave 1-4 up the back with blowout attacks to get mobs that spawn up back away fron jonez.
It’s the same with Balthazars pre-escort event. Unless you memorise the spawn and get between the mobs and the NPC’s it’s all over.
The funny thing is that with LESS players this is actually really easy as the mobs DMG is downscaled.
The real problem with these escort events is the guys we’re escorting do not scale up with the rest of the event.
But all that needs to be done is to make these NPC’s scale as well.
PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD ANET DO NOT DUMB THIS GAME DOWN ANYMORE.
It’s becoming less of an MMO and more of a Cow-Clicker every day.
I just went to la said grenth up,just to see what reply i got.
the reply i got was sod grenth stupid event and always fails.yeah going to la really works then.
I have guested,and most of the servers i been to was contested.
so again i should not go guesting to do an event when i’m on a full server anyway.it just shows ppl are avoiding these events now.
and sticking with the 10x easer ones the dragons.Also earn what?
A stupid rare that’s worth peanuts.
i do the events for fun not a stupid rare,but where’s the fun when no one is doing them or you/npc gets one shotted all the time by champs.
If i wanted easer rewards i would do the dragons all the time,and not complain on the forum to make these temples and other areas scale better and be more fun.
It’s the problem with the stae of Risk Vs. Reward in GW2.
Have a look at this and you’ll understand what I mean.
Go play on a more populated server then. I play on Tarnished Coast and every temple gets taken at least once a day. I also never see any of the 3 Orr zones empty. It’s either your server or your timezone that’s causing your problem.
I think Tc has a dedicated orr guild or somethin. I see commanders there often talking temple mumbojumbo.
Just ask for a server that does orr a lot and you’ll prolly find the opposite is true. That many temples are taken.
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break. I feel like they should be back by now..”
break. I feel like they should be back by now..”
Orr needs a major overhaul, I was at Straits of Devastation last night, it’s really abandoned and depressing when you have to do these events by yourself. And yes, I was on a high population server.
It needs to be more “user friendly”, and it needs to require less teamwork (since really there is no people and team). Don’t get me wrong, it’s cool when we players have to fight and make changes in the world, or else we’ll get swarmed by Risen, but if there’s no players, it’s just depressing.
Orr needs a major overhaul, I was at Straits of Devastation last night, it’s really abandoned and depressing when you have to do these events by yourself. And yes, I was on a high population server.
It needs to be more “user friendly”, and it needs to require less teamwork (since really there is no people and team). Don’t get me wrong, it’s cool when we players have to fight and make changes in the world, or else we’ll get swarmed by Risen, but if there’s no players, it’s just depressing.
/facedesk
What’s depressing is not that there are not many players out there, but WHY there are not many players out there and your suggested solution to get them out there.
The only part I hate about Grenth is, if the priestess for whatever reason is drawn near Jonez, it’s kitten hard to draw the priestess back from him…you have to basically have EVERYONE, even the randoms that decided to join, to run to the back or else she just turns aggro to someone else nearby and keeps spamming AoEs.
Basically, if the priestess is past the middle of the room, you might as well start over :P
It’s not the priest.
We can kill him quite easy.
it’s phase two 1 min before the end champ wrath appears and jones wants to fight him.
Games over as it one shots everyone.
But still the events should be more fun rather than having skilled players/guilds do it for us all the time.
if you want something challenging as a skilled group,like i keep saying that’s what dungeons are for.
The only problem I know is the npc’s that die because they’re too weak and their AI isn’t good enough to survive themselves.
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The only part I hate about Grenth is, if the priestess for whatever reason is drawn near Jonez, it’s kitten hard to draw the priestess back from him…you have to basically have EVERYONE, even the randoms that decided to join, to run to the back or else she just turns aggro to someone else nearby and keeps spamming AoEs.
Basically, if the priestess is past the middle of the room, you might as well start over :P
It’s not the priest.
We can kill him quite easy.
it’s phase two 1 min before the end champ wrath appears and jones wants to fight him.
Games over as it one shots everyone.But still the events should be more fun rather than having skilled players/guilds do it for us all the time.
if you want something challenging as a skilled group,like i keep saying that’s what dungeons are for.
1. You mention in an earlier post asking LA for help and guesting to other servers. You also mentioned this at night time when a lot of the American playerbase is sleeping. There’s a big part of your problem. I said, you have to play and ask for help during peak hours which would be between 4pm-10pm. Not after 10pm. If nobody still wants to help you then congratulations, you’re on an unhelpful server that just doesn’t give a kitten.
2. You can’t just say the events “need to be more fun” because to myself and plenty of others they already are fun. They’re just not fun in YOUR opinion. Unless you go and interview 51% of the players, and they all say it’s not fun, then it being fun or not has no reason to be in this.
3. Dungeons aren’t even hard and pretty much any PUG can clear them. Yeah, skilled groups should be playing in dungeons/fractals and they already do, but there’s nothing wrong with challenging world events either. And they’re only challenging if you don’t know what you’re doing.
Go play on a more populated server then. I play on Tarnished Coast and every temple gets taken at least once a day. I also never see any of the 3 Orr zones empty. It’s either your server or your timezone that’s causing your problem.
I think Tc has a dedicated orr guild or somethin. I see commanders there often talking temple mumbojumbo.
Just ask for a server that does orr a lot and you’ll prolly find the opposite is true. That many temples are taken.
You could be right about TC having a dedicated guild, but I’ve personally never seen one. And whenever I do do the temple events I never see any commander tags at the temple unless some random calls out in chat for help and then everybody goes there. I generally notice when everybody or at least a majority of people are running around with the same guild tag – probably used to that from WvW – and I’ve not once seen any guild in specific doing a temple event.
Everybody complaining about difficulty needs to go play Dark Souls.
Go play on a more populated server then. I play on Tarnished Coast and every temple gets taken at least once a day. I also never see any of the 3 Orr zones empty. It’s either your server or your timezone that’s causing your problem.
Nope on des server its more pve than pvp.
There are plenty of ppl.
The temples were done all the time untill the stupid ninja patches,now they don’t get done at all.Maybe your’s gets done once a day prob by a skillful guild,but even once a day is pretty low.
they should be done all the time.
Also moving server or guesting is not the solution now is it.
it just shows they are too hard for the adv pugs simple as that.
Not a skillful guild. Usually just a pug that knows how to play. I’m on TC too and I used to occasionally wander Orr.
You see, Orr is painful and Southsun is not. Southsun gives more rewards than Orr since this patch and many would-be farmers and grinders are off there. When Anet removes all their improvements to Southsun like they remove all their nice things at the end of each patch they’ll come back.
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Add the chest for every champ slain like it is now on southsun and they could very well be back. For orr I just ignore the champs because I cannot see them(culling??) and therefor have no idea what skill to dodge. And they instagib me with any of my chars so vets and normal mobs are better. Who wants to die from a champion chicken anyway.
Here’s the thing. Everything in Orr, especially temples, is easy enough. HOWEVER, the maps are so sparsely populated that nothing gets done. Every waypoint is contested. Every temple is uncontrolled. It gets incredibly boring/annoying. I personally found Orr a pain but doable until I got to Cursed Shore. I’m trying for map completion but there are actually multiple things that cannot be done because there is a champion in the way or because brambles spam my location so I cannot commune for a skill point.
Rewards should be blocked by temples and champions. Simple map completion should be capable by oneself. In Orr, that is not possible.
It’s up to you or somebody else to get that coordination started. If you can organize at least 10 people, make sure everybody knows EXACTLY what to do, and are properly geared for the zone, then you STILL fail, then I might believe this event needs nerfed a LITTLE bit.
Pre-patch, Grenth had already required organization and telling people what not to do. The final event did not need the life-drain, interrupt-or-lose mechanic. That kind of coordination belongs in an instance where the players can control who participates, not in an open-map event where they cannot.
It’s up to you or somebody else to get that coordination started. If you can organize at least 10 people, make sure everybody knows EXACTLY what to do, and are properly geared for the zone, then you STILL fail, then I might believe this event needs nerfed a LITTLE bit.
Pre-patch, Grenth had already required organization and telling people what not to do. The final event did not need the life-drain, interrupt-or-lose mechanic. That kind of coordination belongs in an instance where the players can control who participates, not in an open-map event where they cannot.
I find it funny how everybody keeps bringing up Grenth. Before this thread I never saw anybody complain about Grenth, but always people complaining about Balth. And, imo, Balth’s temple is way harder to take than Grenth’s is. I can understand people complaining about the temple of Balth, but I’ve never had a single problem with Grenth. Anyways, if you don’t want to trust other players during the important parts of the Grenth temple, then do them yourself and get people to help you. Whenever we do Grenth on TC (majority of the people there are randoms – no major guilds) we just have 5-10 people stick on the NPC and make sure to constantly AoE mobs the second they appear, and the rest of the group stays up front dealing with the majority of the mobs. All you have to do is go “Alright, we need 5 or so people to stay with the NPC unless you guys want to lose.” and that’ll usually get you enough people to defend. Easy as that. Now, if you can’t get enough people to go to the event in general, that says something more about the population on your server rather than the mechanics of the event.
I’d be very interested to be a fly on the wall at ANet HQ. I’d love to get a look-see at the demographics regarding how many of the servers actually even attempt these events any more. Faik, there may be one or two servers doing them regularly or one or two where they are perpetually contested. Going by the thread in the Dynamic Events subforum, the last open post was 5 days ago, but who knows if anyone bothers posting their victories there. Once the SSC stuff ends, I guess we’ll see if people migrate back to Orr.
Well, one reason you likely don’t see them done is that they’re boring and unrewarding. I’ve done all the events and had fun doing them a few times. That’s enough. I ignore them now, no matter how badly people are whining for help — and I’m one of those people that likes helping others even when I get nothing out of it personally.
The reason is that by helping people complete the events, I actually am “helping” people gear up with stats that are inappropriate for dungeons. PTV players are a serious boat-anchor for dungeon runs. So, not only do the events punish me with bad rewards for time spent, they punish the entire dungeon-running community by creating an ever larger pool of inappropriately geared players.
Yes, there are times I’ve put temple gear on my characters, but that’s just certain parts as skins or the rabid set for my necromancer. For every other class, temple gear is the hallmark of a character that contributes so little to a group as to be essentially leaching.
The biggest reason, though, is probably that there’s no reason to be in Orr in the first place. I used to hit Orr once a day to gather for the daily quest, but due to the changes in dailies and thief’s hide skill, I now avoid that most of the time. Since there’s no reason to be there, I won’t see the event shouts (eg. “Grenth starting”) and perhaps decide to hit it for nostalgia sake.
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That’s probably why you don’t see them cleared regularly. The only people in the zone are farmers, ungeared alts mapping for XP, and newbies. Of that crowd, the vast majority know that doing temples won’t help them reach their current goals.
If nothing else, Risen Nobles and a couple other Risen types need to be nerfed back to the way they were.
I don’t really mind the “buffs” that were given to the mobs. They all make sense. What stopped me from regular gathering trips in Orr was the nerf to hide. Now I have to either kill or relog. Sometime after my first 10,000 risen kills, fighting mobs in Orr got a little old. It’s just too tedious to bother with now.
BTW if anyone happens to atch me online and feels like doing something in ORR give me a whisper and I’ll start up some statue clearing. I do it all the time.
Good rewards, A nice little challenge and Lyssa, Balthazar and grenth all require a little comunication to ensure they don’t fail.
I’m on Hendge Of Denravi.
Come on a trip to orr with me and I’ll demonstrate why it’s much better in it’s current state then its previous one.