Guild Wars 2

I understand there is an alternative method for obtaining precursors being worked on “scavenger hunt”. For those of us that don’t want to wait another 6 months or however long it will take to “get it right” … I would like to propose an easier solution.

Put in an NPC with a SET price of 200 gold for two handers and 100 gold for 1 handers. If 200/100 isn’t reasonable then pick a price you feel IS reasonable for ONE ingredient in the legendary (yes, the precursor is just ONE ingredient in a long list) and PROBLEM SOLVED.

People that are fortunate enough to get one from the Mystic forge or drop will still have a sudden windfall of gold and the entire process of obtaining a legendary becomes streamlined as it should be. Win win.

Even the notoriously bad devs from Aion did this when they had no choice but to admit the market for needed Stigmas was being manipulated by a few and impacting ALL. They put in the NPC vendor selling the Stigma at a set rate and prices came down .. shocking. They were still expensive but at least you KNEW how much gold you needed.

This doesn’t lessen the achievement of getting a legendary one bit. The only thing this does is make the legendary more like a recipe (as it should be) instead of the lottery or worse yet a credit card purchase. If prices are left unchecked the only way a legendary can be viewed as an achievement is how much gold people were willing to buy.

I currently have 1,200 hours invested in the pursuit of my legendary (Twilight) … at the current pace of inflation I will never actually get ahead of the inflation curve to purchase the precursor (Dusk is over 400 gold and climbing DAILY).

Sorry, but I would like to be able to actually play the game again … instead of trying to milk every last copper out of every minute I am online.

leprekan.7248:

I understand there is an alternative method for obtaining precursors being worked on “scavenger hunt”. For those of us that don’t want to wait another 6 months or however long it will take to “get it right” … I would like to propose an easier solution.

Put in an NPC with a SET price of 200 gold for two handers and 100 gold for 1 handers. If 200/100 isn’t reasonable then pick a price you feel IS reasonable for ONE ingredient in the legendary (yes, the precursor is just ONE ingredient in a long list) and PROBLEM SOLVED.

People that are fortunate enough to get one from the Mystic forge or drop will still have a sudden windfall of gold and the entire process of obtaining a legendary becomes streamlined as it should be. Win win.

Even the notoriously bad devs from Aion did this when they had no choice but to admit the market for needed Stigmas was being manipulated by a few and impacting ALL. They put in the NPC vendor selling the Stigma at a set rate and prices came down .. shocking. They were still expensive but at least you KNEW how much gold you needed.

This doesn’t lessen the achievement of getting a legendary one bit. The only thing this does is make the legendary more like a recipe (as it should be) instead of the lottery or worse yet a credit card purchase. If prices are left unchecked the only way a legendary can be viewed as an achievement is how much gold people were willing to buy.

I currently have 1,200 hours invested in the pursuit of my legendary (Twilight) … at the current pace of inflation I will never actually get ahead of the inflation curve to purchase the precursor (Dusk is over 400 gold and climbing DAILY).

Sorry, but I would like to be able to actually play the game again … instead of trying to milk every last copper out of every minute I am online.

Win win for everyone except people using the trading post. Also what would you do after you milk every copper and got a legendary?

Volomon.9147:

leprekan.7248:

I understand there is an alternative method for obtaining precursors being worked on “scavenger hunt”. For those of us that don’t want to wait another 6 months or however long it will take to “get it right” … I would like to propose an easier solution.

Put in an NPC with a SET price of 200 gold for two handers and 100 gold for 1 handers. If 200/100 isn’t reasonable then pick a price you feel IS reasonable for ONE ingredient in the legendary (yes, the precursor is just ONE ingredient in a long list) and PROBLEM SOLVED.

People that are fortunate enough to get one from the Mystic forge or drop will still have a sudden windfall of gold and the entire process of obtaining a legendary becomes streamlined as it should be. Win win.

Even the notoriously bad devs from Aion did this when they had no choice but to admit the market for needed Stigmas was being manipulated by a few and impacting ALL. They put in the NPC vendor selling the Stigma at a set rate and prices came down .. shocking. They were still expensive but at least you KNEW how much gold you needed.

This doesn’t lessen the achievement of getting a legendary one bit. The only thing this does is make the legendary more like a recipe (as it should be) instead of the lottery or worse yet a credit card purchase. If prices are left unchecked the only way a legendary can be viewed as an achievement is how much gold people were willing to buy.

I currently have 1,200 hours invested in the pursuit of my legendary (Twilight) … at the current pace of inflation I will never actually get ahead of the inflation curve to purchase the precursor (Dusk is over 400 gold and climbing DAILY).

Sorry, but I would like to be able to actually play the game again … instead of trying to milk every last copper out of every minute I am online.

Win win for everyone except people using the trading post. Also what would you do after you milk every copper and got a legendary?

Actually my solution will have less of an impact than the one Anet is working on. When it becomes the “scavenger hunt” the precursor will have zero value. My proposal puts a set price on said value.

The argument of the poor traders … there are only a handful of people with the kind of gold it takes to manipulate the precursor market and many of those got those precursors at the start. I remember one bragging on another site with screen shots with his inventory of Dusks and 900 gold … like 2 weeks into the game. You want to protect people like that over the other 2 million playing? Really?

As to what would I personally do? lol I would like to be able to do a dungeon and not worry about how much gold I am averaging while in there. I would LOVE to be able to do pvp and not think about I am losing money by doing it. As I said … PLAY THE GAME.

Change is coming and like it or not my suggestion isn’t a bad one compared to what we have or precursors being a quest item.

leprekan.7248:

Volomon.9147:

leprekan.7248:

I understand there is an alternative method for obtaining precursors being worked on “scavenger hunt”. For those of us that don’t want to wait another 6 months or however long it will take to “get it right” … I would like to propose an easier solution.

Put in an NPC with a SET price of 200 gold for two handers and 100 gold for 1 handers. If 200/100 isn’t reasonable then pick a price you feel IS reasonable for ONE ingredient in the legendary (yes, the precursor is just ONE ingredient in a long list) and PROBLEM SOLVED.

People that are fortunate enough to get one from the Mystic forge or drop will still have a sudden windfall of gold and the entire process of obtaining a legendary becomes streamlined as it should be. Win win.

Even the notoriously bad devs from Aion did this when they had no choice but to admit the market for needed Stigmas was being manipulated by a few and impacting ALL. They put in the NPC vendor selling the Stigma at a set rate and prices came down .. shocking. They were still expensive but at least you KNEW how much gold you needed.

This doesn’t lessen the achievement of getting a legendary one bit. The only thing this does is make the legendary more like a recipe (as it should be) instead of the lottery or worse yet a credit card purchase. If prices are left unchecked the only way a legendary can be viewed as an achievement is how much gold people were willing to buy.

I currently have 1,200 hours invested in the pursuit of my legendary (Twilight) … at the current pace of inflation I will never actually get ahead of the inflation curve to purchase the precursor (Dusk is over 400 gold and climbing DAILY).

Sorry, but I would like to be able to actually play the game again … instead of trying to milk every last copper out of every minute I am online.

Win win for everyone except people using the trading post. Also what would you do after you milk every copper and got a legendary?

Actually my solution will have less of an impact than the one Anet is working on. When it becomes the “scavenger hunt” the precursor will have zero value. My proposal puts a set price on said value.

The argument of the poor traders … there are only a handful of people with the kind of gold it takes to manipulate the precursor market and many of those got those precursors at the start. I remember one bragging on another site with screen shots with his inventory of Dusks and 900 gold … like 2 weeks into the game. You want to protect people like that over the other 2 million playing? Really?

As to what would I personally do? lol I would like to be able to do a dungeon and not worry about how much gold I am averaging while in there. I would LOVE to be able to do pvp and not think about I am losing money by doing it. As I said … PLAY THE GAME.

Change is coming and like it or not my suggestion isn’t a bad one compared to what we have or precursors being a quest item.

It has value because they are using it as a lure for their event, if they did it like you said that lure would be gone, and only those who are on will receive anything again increasing the lure. To have it always available reduces it’s value. Not to mention how do we know we will get the precursor we want this will jump kick the economy in many ways. Which is currently being limited by drops, probably further increase Cash to Gems to Gold, which is what anet wants. I’m not saying it’s a good thing but I imagine that is the plan.

leprekan.7248:

I understand there is an alternative method for obtaining precursors being worked on “scavenger hunt”. For those of us that don’t want to wait another 6 months or however long it will take to “get it right” … I would like to propose an easier solution.

Put in an NPC with a SET price of 200 gold for two handers and 100 gold for 1 handers. If 200/100 isn’t reasonable then pick a price you feel IS reasonable for ONE ingredient in the legendary (yes, the precursor is just ONE ingredient in a long list) and PROBLEM SOLVED.

People that are fortunate enough to get one from the Mystic forge or drop will still have a sudden windfall of gold and the entire process of obtaining a legendary becomes streamlined as it should be. Win win.

Even the notoriously bad devs from Aion did this when they had no choice but to admit the market for needed Stigmas was being manipulated by a few and impacting ALL. They put in the NPC vendor selling the Stigma at a set rate and prices came down .. shocking. They were still expensive but at least you KNEW how much gold you needed.

This doesn’t lessen the achievement of getting a legendary one bit. The only thing this does is make the legendary more like a recipe (as it should be) instead of the lottery or worse yet a credit card purchase. If prices are left unchecked the only way a legendary can be viewed as an achievement is how much gold people were willing to buy.

I currently have 1,200 hours invested in the pursuit of my legendary (Twilight) … at the current pace of inflation I will never actually get ahead of the inflation curve to purchase the precursor (Dusk is over 400 gold and climbing DAILY).

Sorry, but I would like to be able to actually play the game again … instead of trying to milk every last copper out of every minute I am online.

+1
I second this idea.

Maybe you should actually play game instead pretending you have a clue about designing games?

Problem: Everypony love Twilight.

You ARE the problem of inflating price. Other precursors except dawn(another twilight) and the legend are below your 100-200g range.

now if only legendary weapons looked half decent for me to care. I agree with the idea tho. The day they add a staff or GS that goes nicely on a mesmer is the day i will farm/grind for a legendary.

YPC.6349:

Problem: Everypony love Twilight.

You ARE the problem of inflating price. Other precursors except dawn(another twilight) and the legend are below your 100-200g range.

This. Very few precursors are actually in the 100-200g bracket.

Some are as low as 20-30g. When people say they can’t afford a precursor, what they really mean is they can’t afford a precursor greatsword

Nuka Cola.8520:

now if only legendary weapons looked half decent for me to care. I agree with the idea tho. The day they add a staff or GS that goes nicely on a mesmer is the day i will farm/grind for a legendary.

That’s half of the problem: Only a few legendaries actually look good.
So, it’s obvious that everyone’s going for a Twilight.

Ryuujin.8236:

YPC.6349:

Problem: Everypony love Twilight.

You ARE the problem of inflating price. Other precursors except dawn(another twilight) and the legend are below your 100-200g range.

This. Very few precursors are actually in the 100-200g bracket.

Some are as low as 20-30g. When people say they can’t afford a precursor, what they really mean is they can’t afford a precursor greatsword

No.

Spark is 219g
The Legend is 276g
Zap is 158g
The Lover is 166g

Obviously people are NOT going for weapons that they won’t use much or show that much, like the underwater ones or the focus.

The inflation of precursors isn’t manipulation. The price is directly tied to ectos. So they made precursors slightly easier to get but since that patch, ecto prices have nearly tripled. The end result is that precursors are as expensive as ever and legendaries are far more expensive.

How about killing 2 eggs with 1 stone. Make ancient Karka event a weekly event. This way u increase the amount of precursor, and get rid of ppl that are still QQin about the one time event.

kRiza krimos.1637:

Maybe you should actually play game instead pretending you have a clue about designing games?

And maybe you shouldnt post.
After all devs are perfect make no mistakes and everything is green.
ask smed on swg:nge
ask james O about tor
ask lotor about radiance
ect…..
right no mistake they are perfect and there is nothing wrong at all.

I agree op nice idea.But if they remove the carrot of "event"loot then people have no urge to return and buy gems.

Fortuna.7259:

The inflation of precursors isn’t manipulation. The price is directly tied to ectos. So they made precursors slightly easier to get but since that patch, ecto prices have nearly tripled. The end result is that precursors are as expensive as ever and legendaries are far more expensive.

Everything else that goes into a legendary can be farmed if people will put the time in. The precursor cannot.

Ecto is actually easy to come by … farm tier 5 mats … make armor … break down armor. No idea why you link the two together. One item is Mystic forge lottery and the other is something you have control over if you put the effort in.

Those not wanting something done are either casual players with no real grasp of how much these weapons can cost or trolling. Even Anet has responded and is working on a solution. I merely tried suggesting an easier way to do it that requires months less coding.

I think having precursors that you could obtain in a fixed manner would be fine, as long as it’s comparable in scope.

My belief, however, is that even if you eliminated the cost of a precursor from the equation, we’d not actually see appreciably more legendary weapons in players’ hands. Most of the people fussing over precursors prices haven’t done the various gifts yet.

The idea of giving precursors a fixed price is logically sound. It’s more logical than putting them into a scavenger hunt, because this could greatly reduce the value of existing ones.

Right now, I don’t see much purpose for the precursor beyond selling it on the TP to earn hundreds of gold (or thousands of Gems). I doubt that many people are waiting on a precursor to complete a Legendary; if players are in that situation, then this whole ordeal is even worse for them.

Making gold in-game has become immensely inefficient compared to just taking on a RL job and spending the money on Gems for gold. Unless you’re a Power Trader with enough money to manipulate the market for profit, credit card purchases are much more time-effective.

If Legendary weapons are supposed to reflect in-game achievements, they should not be distributed as they have been as of late.

Volomon.9147:

It has value because they are using it as a lure for their event, if they did it like you said that lure would be gone, and only those who are on will receive anything again increasing the lure.

Isn’t the event itself “lure” enough? Seeing things happening, being part of something bigger? Playing the game just for playing the game, enjoying the adventure?

No, I’m not sure whether it wouldn’t be better not having other lures. They only increase the number of lags and people fidgeting around.

leprekan.7248:

Fortuna.7259:

The inflation of precursors isn’t manipulation. The price is directly tied to ectos. So they made precursors slightly easier to get but since that patch, ecto prices have nearly tripled. The end result is that precursors are as expensive as ever and legendaries are far more expensive.

Everything else that goes into a legendary can be farmed if people will put the time in. The precursor cannot.

Ecto is actually easy to come by … farm tier 5 mats … make armor … break down armor. No idea why you link the two together. One item is Mystic forge lottery and the other is something you have control over if you put the effort in.

Those not wanting something done are either casual players with no real grasp of how much these weapons can cost or trolling. Even Anet has responded and is working on a solution. I merely tried suggesting an easier way to do it that requires months less coding.

No idea why I link precursors with ectoplasm, huh? Well, since you have no idea, allow me to explain:

The precursor can be “farmed” by obtaining huge amounts of T5 mats, crafting appropriate level 80 rares, and throwing them into the mystic forge. Sound familiar? That starts EXACTLY the same as the method you described for getting ectoplasm! Ectoplasm and precursors are competing for the exact same resource (actually, only those popular enough to warrant using the mystic forge to meet demand, which are the expensive ones). In other words, the cost to forge a precursor is the opportunity cost of so many hundred ectos. That is why precursor prices are directly tied to ecto prices.

Fortuna.7259:

leprekan.7248:

Fortuna.7259:

The inflation of precursors isn’t manipulation. The price is directly tied to ectos. So they made precursors slightly easier to get but since that patch, ecto prices have nearly tripled. The end result is that precursors are as expensive as ever and legendaries are far more expensive.

Everything else that goes into a legendary can be farmed if people will put the time in. The precursor cannot.

Ecto is actually easy to come by … farm tier 5 mats … make armor … break down armor. No idea why you link the two together. One item is Mystic forge lottery and the other is something you have control over if you put the effort in.

Those not wanting something done are either casual players with no real grasp of how much these weapons can cost or trolling. Even Anet has responded and is working on a solution. I merely tried suggesting an easier way to do it that requires months less coding.

No idea why I link precursors with ectoplasm, huh? Well, since you have no idea, allow me to explain:

The precursor can be “farmed” by obtaining huge amounts of T5 mats, crafting appropriate level 80 rares, and throwing them into the mystic forge. Sound familiar? That starts EXACTLY the same as the method you described for getting ectoplasm! Ectoplasm and precursors are competing for the exact same resource (actually, only those popular enough to warrant using the mystic forge to meet demand, which are the expensive ones). In other words, the cost to forge a precursor is the opportunity cost of so many hundred ectos. That is why precursor prices are directly tied to ecto prices.

I understand how you are trying to link them … the problem is you are wrong. The price of Mithril and Elder wood logs has actually taken a massive nose dive … the ingredients that go with the tier 5 mats to produce a rare greatsword. Same is true of Ancient wood and Orichalcum … Ori is down about 1.5 silver per. It’s actually cheaper to make rare swords than it was before. Yet precursors and ecto rise.

Fractals stuff requires tier 6 and ecto to make. That coupled with a massive bot ban and you have a short fall on your base tier 5 materials used to create the ecto. Nerfing Plinx probably caused a bigger market shift than any other thing that was done.

I am not sure why you are dwelling on this theory crafting. There is a problem that needs to be addressed and I tried to provide a short term easy solution. My proposal is actually GOOD for the long term economy. By putting in an NPC and keeping the drop rate as is it becomes a massive gold sink that removes gold completely from the game and not just transferring it to another player.

I feel that the 200/100 price is the right way to go about I still need to get the hammer and that has gone up in price so fast that I cant keep up whit it and this is comeing from someone who can play the game for 6- 8 hours a day

For starters if Anet needs to rely on precursor carrots on a stick to get people to participate in their events then they need to seriously look at the overall value and appeal of their events.

And sorry, but 400-500 gold for a greatsword precursor on the trading post is a little hard to swallow. Sure there are precursors I don’t use that I can buy for 100-200 gold, but I don’t use them so why would I make them? lol sorry I have no use for a legendary weapon I don’t use.

A precursor vendor makes the legendary achievable for EVERYONE that plays this game. Not just the select few that can buy gems until they max out their credit cards or spend every waking hour in game grinding because they have nothing else to do.

Is there any chance of someone from Anet weighing in on this? When I logged off Dusk was at 440 gold … up 27 gold from the day before.

Dusk is currently at 485 gold … up 45 gold from yesterday. Again I am asking someone from Anet to comment or say working as intended so I know to uninstall. Thanks

I think you actualy have great idea, but i would make it lets say 100g and rest scavanger hunt, that way precursor manipulation will end forever.
For people who defend curent situation with cheap phrases and dubious intentions at best keap up the good work of shoving how ridiculous curent situation is.
If A net planed to have small number of people with legendary weapons, whay not make precursors account bound?
People at A net have more info about game and its posible future progression then we can even dream of,they knew alpha testers and some beta players would use knowlage to their advantage,so whay not stop them by making precursors account bound? Let the speculation begin first tihing on my mind GEMS.
My strong belif is that every player must have the same chance of getting precursor, no matter if started at lounch of the game a month later like I did,or one year from now.
If precursor is to follow RNG mystic forge then precursors must be account bound to preserve equal chance for everyone.
If scavanger hunt is the case to obtain precursor it needs not be account bound,becouse it is avaliable for all players equally and if someone feels like spending gold over time,matters not the main principal is preserved.
Leprekan dont concearn your self much about precursor I think problem will be solved in due time and its not a reason to quit great game

Dusk is now 510 gold … matter of a fact 3 are listed at that same exact price. Tell me that isn’t the same person selling them. Anet any chance of a little help on this? THIS stuff right here is how you are losing players and you are losing players.

You guys are only talking about buy-it-now prices.

Wouldn’t more relevant to talk about the highest buy offer prices? Cuz I doubt anyone would save up for a dusk and then be too impatient to wait for a seller.

The buy-it-now folks are flippers, doncha think?

Edit: I checked it out, and 405g would make you the highest bidder for Dusk, despite its 510g offer. The top ten offers start around 300. It would appear not that many people have actually finished up the other Gifts.

Ryuujin.8236:

YPC.6349:

Problem: Everypony love Twilight.

You ARE the problem of inflating price. Other precursors except dawn(another twilight) and the legend are below your 100-200g range.

This. Very few precursors are actually in the 100-200g bracket.

Some are as low as 20-30g. When people say they can’t afford a precursor, what they really mean is they can’t afford a precursor greatsword

The ones that are cheap are mostly underwater precursors.

I’m not sure why no one wants those, but I have my suspicions (they can’t be seen on land, so you can’t show them off in town to feel superior to the unwashed masses, which seems to be the reason most people want a legendary these days)

Hyper Cutter.9376:

Ryuujin.8236:

YPC.6349:

Problem: Everypony love Twilight.

You ARE the problem of inflating price. Other precursors except dawn(another twilight) and the legend are below your 100-200g range.

This. Very few precursors are actually in the 100-200g bracket.

Some are as low as 20-30g. When people say they can’t afford a precursor, what they really mean is they can’t afford a precursor greatsword

The ones that are cheap are mostly underwater precursors.

I’m not sure why no one wants those, but I have my suspicions (they can’t be seen on land, so you can’t show them off in town to feel superior to the unwashed masses, which seems to be the reason most people want a legendary these days)

no its that most classes are horribly bad underwater and a legendary won t help….

They decided to make legendary top tier forever…so i decided to try to start to build an incinerator (i really hate the skin also -.- possibly the worst legendary….) i would never thougt of it if it weren t for at least having one less concern every major patch…

Btw i won t be able to get 250 gold for the precursor possibly ever unless i start farming orr like a bot…..if this is even still possible.

Hyper Cutter.9376:

Ryuujin.8236:

YPC.6349:

Problem: Everypony love Twilight.

You ARE the problem of inflating price. Other precursors except dawn(another twilight) and the legend are below your 100-200g range.

This. Very few precursors are actually in the 100-200g bracket.

Some are as low as 20-30g. When people say they can’t afford a precursor, what they really mean is they can’t afford a precursor greatsword

The ones that are cheap are mostly underwater precursors.

I’m not sure why no one wants those, but I have my suspicions (they can’t be seen on land, so you can’t show them off in town to feel superior to the unwashed masses, which seems to be the reason most people want a legendary these days)

Yes because after spending 1,200 + hours to make the weapon … I really only want to actually use it .005% of my time in game while I am underwater. /facepalm

I appreciate the post for the bump but wow critical thinking fail or a TAD jealous. If you are going to spend that much gold and time for a legendary you probably want to see it as much as possible and THAT is why those underwater ones are cheap.

Personally, I don’t care if anyone else gets to see mine when it is finished because I am making one for ME. Anet went all out on some of them and they are like it or not … really cool looking. You do know you are also allowed to get one right? Well as long as you don’t want Twilight or you will be in the same boat I am in and not able to get ahead of the inflation curve to get the last piece.

LordByron.8369:

Hyper Cutter.9376:

Ryuujin.8236:

YPC.6349:

Problem: Everypony love Twilight.

You ARE the problem of inflating price. Other precursors except dawn(another twilight) and the legend are below your 100-200g range.

This. Very few precursors are actually in the 100-200g bracket.

Some are as low as 20-30g. When people say they can’t afford a precursor, what they really mean is they can’t afford a precursor greatsword

The ones that are cheap are mostly underwater precursors.

I’m not sure why no one wants those, but I have my suspicions (they can’t be seen on land, so you can’t show them off in town to feel superior to the unwashed masses, which seems to be the reason most people want a legendary these days)

no its that most classes are horribly bad underwater and a legendary won t help….

They decided to make legendary top tier forever…so i decided to try to start to build an incinerator (i really hate the skin also -.- possibly the worst legendary….) i would never thougt of it if it weren t for at least having one less concern every major patch…

Btw i won t be able to get 250 gold for the precursor possibly ever unless i start farming orr like a bot…..if this is even still possible.

Do all the other gathering first. With any luck, there’ll be a new dagger legendary that’s not so goofy by the time you have all your tokens/badges/stack of mats/million karma…

mulch.2586:

LordByron.8369:

Hyper Cutter.9376:

Ryuujin.8236:

YPC.6349:

Problem: Everypony love Twilight.

You ARE the problem of inflating price. Other precursors except dawn(another twilight) and the legend are below your 100-200g range.

This. Very few precursors are actually in the 100-200g bracket.

Some are as low as 20-30g. When people say they can’t afford a precursor, what they really mean is they can’t afford a precursor greatsword

The ones that are cheap are mostly underwater precursors.

I’m not sure why no one wants those, but I have my suspicions (they can’t be seen on land, so you can’t show them off in town to feel superior to the unwashed masses, which seems to be the reason most people want a legendary these days)

no its that most classes are horribly bad underwater and a legendary won t help….

They decided to make legendary top tier forever…so i decided to try to start to build an incinerator (i really hate the skin also -.- possibly the worst legendary….) i would never thougt of it if it weren t for at least having one less concern every major patch…

Btw i won t be able to get 250 gold for the precursor possibly ever unless i start farming orr like a bot…..if this is even still possible.

Do all the other gathering first. With any luck, there’ll be a new dagger legendary that’s not so goofy by the time you have all your tokens/badges/stack of mats/million karma…

I actually went that approach … I have EVERYTHING (Gift of Twilight, Gift of Fortune, Gift of Mastery) done and sitting in my storage. All I need is my precursor (Dusk) which has gone up 100 gold (510 gold iirc) in less than a week and shows no signs of leveling out. At current pace his precursor would be close to 1k at the current rate of “inflation”. So this may not be the best advice.

The inspiration for this thread was … I already did the “hard” parts and am still unable to complete my legendary because of how the precursors are acquired. Currently the only way to farm enough gold is by BUYING it. If Anet wanted to catch half the people buying from the gold farmers all they would have to do is check the accounts of the people with the buy orders in on Dusk etc. If you can afford to have 300-400 gold tied up in a buy order for one item … odds are you didn’t get it legit.

They seriously need to put in an NPC selling them to help remove some of the gold farmer gold from the economy. It would fix the over all inflation in the economy and help to balance out the damage the bots and gold buyers are doing.

A reasonable price would be the cost of the time it might take for someone to get 1. so if it takes a year for someone and he usually make 1s per 5min gaming then count over all those min into gold for a year of playing and i guess we have a reasonable price

leprekan.7248:

I actually went that approach … I have EVERYTHING (Gift of Twilight, Gift of Fortune, Gift of Mastery) done and sitting in my storage. All I need is my precursor (Dusk)…

I’m actually in the same boat (not for a GS though), but I do like your way of thinking. I’m not that far behind you actually, just need the Gift of Magic and for Arah to be less broken so I can farm those shards. I’m asking myself why the developers make this crucial bit of the legendary so stupidly hard to acquire… why does there always have to be a catch with the top-notch stuff? It’s taken quite a bit of time to get everything else together and it’s been a tedious task. I’m just hoping the reward will be worth it.

leprekan.7248:

mulch.2586:

LordByron.8369:

Hyper Cutter.9376:

Ryuujin.8236:

YPC.6349:

Problem: Everypony love Twilight.

You ARE the problem of inflating price. Other precursors except dawn(another twilight) and the legend are below your 100-200g range.

This. Very few precursors are actually in the 100-200g bracket.

Some are as low as 20-30g. When people say they can’t afford a precursor, what they really mean is they can’t afford a precursor greatsword

The ones that are cheap are mostly underwater precursors.

I’m not sure why no one wants those, but I have my suspicions (they can’t be seen on land, so you can’t show them off in town to feel superior to the unwashed masses, which seems to be the reason most people want a legendary these days)

no its that most classes are horribly bad underwater and a legendary won t help….

They decided to make legendary top tier forever…so i decided to try to start to build an incinerator (i really hate the skin also -.- possibly the worst legendary….) i would never thougt of it if it weren t for at least having one less concern every major patch…

Btw i won t be able to get 250 gold for the precursor possibly ever unless i start farming orr like a bot…..if this is even still possible.

Do all the other gathering first. With any luck, there’ll be a new dagger legendary that’s not so goofy by the time you have all your tokens/badges/stack of mats/million karma…

I actually went that approach … I have EVERYTHING (Gift of Twilight, Gift of Fortune, Gift of Mastery) done and sitting in my storage. All I need is my precursor (Dusk) which has gone up 100 gold (510 gold iirc) in less than a week and shows no signs of leveling out. At current pace his precursor would be close to 1k at the current rate of “inflation”. So this may not be the best advice.

The inspiration for this thread was … I already did the “hard” parts and am still unable to complete my legendary because of how the precursors are acquired. Currently the only way to farm enough gold is by BUYING it. If Anet wanted to catch half the people buying from the gold farmers all they would have to do is check the accounts of the people with the buy orders in on Dusk etc. If you can afford to have 300-400 gold tied up in a buy order for one item … odds are you didn’t get it legit.

They seriously need to put in an NPC selling them to help remove some of the gold farmer gold from the economy. It would fix the over all inflation in the economy and help to balance out the damage the bots and gold buyers are doing.

Then you made a big mistake. You should have save all your money and rush precursor first, given the fact that dungeons right now are flooding the market with gold and soon I don’t know if people still care to trade with gold . Gift can wait and precursor can’t. I know someone doing opposite and he just need to farm gold for the gift. If you did so, you properly have a Twilight now. While I agree there should be more fair way to acquire precursor, Anet should not bail you out for your poor planning. Anyway, Nothing forbid you to get Twilight. You just have to farm more to pay for you own mistake.

leprekan.7248:

I understand how you are trying to link them … the problem is you are wrong. The price of Mithril and Elder wood logs has actually taken a massive nose dive … the ingredients that go with the tier 5 mats to produce a rare greatsword. Same is true of Ancient wood and Orichalcum … Ori is down about 1.5 silver per. It’s actually cheaper to make rare swords than it was before. Yet precursors and ecto rise.

Fractals stuff requires tier 6 and ecto to make. That coupled with a massive bot ban and you have a short fall on your base tier 5 materials used to create the ecto. Nerfing Plinx probably caused a bigger market shift than any other thing that was done.

I am not sure why you are dwelling on this theory crafting. There is a problem that needs to be addressed and I tried to provide a short term easy solution. My proposal is actually GOOD for the long term economy. By putting in an NPC and keeping the drop rate as is it becomes a massive gold sink that removes gold completely from the game and not just transferring it to another player.

Actually, you are wrong. Elder wood may have taken a nose dive, but mithril is now actually up. And T5 mats are way up. A while ago large bones were going for 28c and now over 1s. What is a great sword made of? Much more mithril and T5 than elder wood. Elder wood is a surplus good an naturally it will drop as the others suffer from shortage and their price climbs.

Rare prices increased with ecto, as did precursors. Precursors cost ecto. Before you go proposing solutions to the precursor problem, you need to understand the market forces at work.

Hey I understand your frustration on this matter, but this is actually a really delicate thing. As of the moment there are many legendaries already, if there is a change it has to be made right, else everyone and their mom will have a legendary.