Guild Wars 2

I believe you should be able to purchase Fractal Weapons (like all other dungeon sets) with the dungeon tokens. In this case I would prefer Pristine Relics over the regular relics (because then less people would be able to get them which is I’m assuming why you don’t have this implemented in the first place). Although, make it possible to purchase a single Fractal Weapon for like 30 Pristine Relics or something difficult like that. I know how hard it would be to obtain them, but isn’t it already insanely difficult?

On that note, they really aren’t obtained via skill, but rather luck. You have to be lucky enough to get the chance for that drop. I’ve done Fractal dailies for well over a month straight and haven’t seen a single Fractal Weapon skin drop. Only once have I’ve seen someone else obtain one in my party (and we’re on FOTM 30)!. No longer am I obtaining any Ascended rings either which is a shock considering the level I’m at. I think the whole “luck” thing this game has become so highly dependent on is kitten I spend so much time playing this game but I can’t even afford anything I want? Not even a simple Fractal Weapon that I have to grind everyday just to have a chance at it? A LOW CHANCE that is.

The current items for the relics do not interest me nor many other players, so they’re just sitting in our banks waiting for something better to be implemented. Please ANet, do this one thing to Fractals instead of nerfing it further.

BulletNG.7069:

I believe you should be able to purchase Fractal Weapons (like all other dungeon sets) with the dungeon tokens. In this case I would prefer Pristine Relics over the regular relics (because then less people would be able to get them which is I’m assuming why you don’t have this implemented in the first place). Although, make it possible to purchase a single Fractal Weapon for like 30 Pristine Relics or something difficult like that. I know how hard it would be to obtain them, but isn’t it already insanely difficult?

On that note, they really aren’t obtained via skill, but rather luck. You have to be lucky enough to get the chance for that drop. I’ve done Fractal dailies for well over a month straight and haven’t seen a single Fractal Weapon skin drop. Only once have I’ve seen someone else obtain one in my party (and we’re on FOTM 30)!. No longer am I obtaining any Ascended rings either which is a shock considering the level I’m at. I think the whole “luck” thing this game has become so highly dependent on is kitten I spend so much time playing this game but I can’t even afford anything I want? Not even a simple Fractal Weapon that I have to grind everyday just to have a chance at it? A LOW CHANCE that is.

The current items for the relics do not interest me nor many other players, so they’re just sitting in our banks waiting for something better to be implemented. Please ANet, do this one thing to Fractals instead of nerfing it further.

The only problem i have is, that once you are lucky enough to get a drop, it’s a weapon you dont need at all.

I would rather see something like “skin tokens”, you can trade a fractal skin you dont need for that skin token, and then exchange tokens to get the desired skin.

My problem is getting a skin at all. I see people who run FOTM 20 for the first time getting a skin, and some people who have 3 of the same skin sitting in their bank… Then people like me who run 30+ everyday get nothing but Relics (no rings and barely any rares).

I think I have gotten a little lucky when it comes to getting Fractal Weapons but very unlucky in getting the one I actually WANT.

So far I have gotten 2 hammers, a trident, a staff, a warhorn, a spear and an axe. All I actually want is the GS and maybe the shield.

So in one aspect I would like to be able to trade my 30 Pristine Fractal Relics for the one weapon I have been trying for (I have 36 pristine so that’s 36 attempts) but also not hating getting them as drops either.

I agree with the aforementioned points and have some insights of my own that I would like to contribute to this discussion.

My first and most important contention is that the current method of obtaining fractal weapons is not fun. Many players continually work hard to have fractal weapons and are relentlessly unrewarded. I’ve done my 20, 30, and 40 fractal daily every day for 2 weeks, with few exception and have only gotten two fractal weapons, both of which I cannot even use. I am honestly wasting my time. This point can be summed up by Colin Johanson (http://www.arena.net/blog/is-it-fun-colin-johanson-on-how-arenanet-measures-success) : “Every time you finish a dungeon you get tokens you can trade in for reward items that you want, rather than having a small chance of getting it as a drop, because it’s more fun to always get rewarded for finishing with something you want to have!” Not only is it more fun to be rewarded, but it’s is not fun at all to be constantly unrewarded. It is demoralizing and is an incentive for people to never return to fractals.

Further, fractal weapons do not denote expertise in fractals, as dungeon specific weapons do for other dungeons. Instead, they signify luck. While I am not yet in my 60s, I would consider myself quite high level in fractals. I have maximum AR, and have overcome the challenges that the dungeon poses at higher levels. Unfortunately, there are many people in there 20s who have more to show for their work in fractals than I do (because I can’t even equip my weapons).

Finally, the currency for daily completion of even level fractals was a band-aid for people that complained about the ascended ring chance. For the many people above level 30 that have max or near max AR already, the pristine relics just sit in our inventory and have no real use aside from tracking how many hours we have invested trying to obtain the weapons and have been unrewarded.

I support the suggestion of using relics to purchase weapons. If this would allow people to get the weapons too easily, introduce a fractal level restriction for purchasing the items (ie, you can only purchase the weapons that cost less at normal dungeon merchants past level 30, and you can purchase the weapons that cost 390 dungeon tokens past level 40, etc.)

I currently have 48 pristine fractal relics, and if each run has taken approximately one and a half hours, then I have spent 3 days of my life playing this game and doing something that isn’t even fun. (Which is an understatement. I swear I get cliffside and underground every other run, and this doesn’t include the times somebody has DC’d before the update)

I will not return to this dungeon until this problem is resolved, lol. There is no worthy reward for completing higher levels. There are better exotics and gold from CoF farm, which is an entirely different discussion.

Nikon Justus.6902:

I think I have gotten a little lucky when it comes to getting Fractal Weapons but very unlucky in getting the one I actually WANT.

So far I have gotten 2 hammers, a trident, a staff, a warhorn, a spear and an axe. All I actually want is the GS and maybe the shield.

So in one aspect I would like to be able to trade my 30 Pristine Fractal Relics for the one weapon I have been trying for (I have 36 pristine so that’s 36 attempts) but also not hating getting them as drops either.

Funny i have got a GS and an axe as an ele, but not a dagger!

I would make it more interesting, instead of just 30 relics, make it a mystic forge recipe, like: 1 fractal weapon of any choice, 1 exotic weapon (which will decide the result), a few pristine relics, and a few shards.

I’d hate to see these weapons become common. If it did happen there should be Fractal Lvl Requirement of 1000000,00000,000000000,,00,0,0,0,0,0,00,,00,00 zillion.

Having 1/190 chances of getting it aint fair neither, make it a mystic forge recipe, cost relics, level requirement or something, but not this huge RNG.

Bump to get more attention… this seriously needs it !

Nihilus.3015:

I’d hate to see these weapons become common. If it did happen there should be Fractal Lvl Requirement of 1000000,00000,000000000,,00,0,0,0,0,0,00,,00,00 zillion.

Of course the people that have them wan’t them to remain uncommon. But that’s a selfish argument because the rest of us worked hard to get nothing. This RNG problem is worse than that of the mystic forge for precursors. At least you can buy it with gold.

Here, have a slight chance to get something at all, let’s say one in three. Of that slight chance, you have another one in three chance that it’s a weapon not a ring or infused ring (unless you’re doing 26+). Then you have a one in nineteen chance that it’s the weapon you want.

It just isn’t fun playing for maybe two hours a day to roll a 150+ sided die.

1000000,00000,000000000,,00,0,0,0,0,0,00,,00,00 zillion Level Requirement is my favorite idea. But in another thread I said turning in 3 Fractal weapons for 1 you want would work too. But you gotta admit 1000000,00000,000000000,,00,0,0,0,0,0,00,,00,00 zillion Level Requirement is brilliant.

I vote for the pristine relics + the lv restriction.

Im afraid that this suggestion has been made alot, and it seems anet doesnt care, they would like to keep the grindiness in the game (because making people want to quit is the goal?)

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/suggestions/purchasable-fractal-skins-with-relics-PLEASE/first#post1159850

^ my thread over a month ago