Guild Wars 2

As you never listed the item, why are you still being charged a listing fee? It would also make filling buy orders much more palatable to people as you’d make a larger profit that way, even though the buy order is often much lower than the listing price.

But you did list the item when you sold it to the person or persons who made the offer.

Grey Warden.2983:

But you did list the item when you sold it to the person or persons who made the offer.

No, you fulfilled a order. You never publicly listed the item, there was no middle man involved in the transaction.

But you use the TP as a means to complete the transaction. Therefore you must pay the fee.

Zen.2450: Sorry about these guys. They seem to think that GW2 is real life, and that the BLT is manned by people who need to feed their family.

You’re suggestion is completely valid. As the fee structure is currently setup it fails to encourage fluid exchange of goods and instead encourages a constant 1c war between sellers.

Risingashes.8694:

encourages a constant 1c war between sellers.

I’m sorry you’re mad that we sellers are willing to undercut our profits by 1 cp in order to sell faster. If you refresh the TP, and see my listings as cheaper, by all means feel free to post lower. Just don’t be surprised if the price drops by another 1cp on your next refresh.

Smooth Penguin.5294:

Risingashes.8694:

encourages a constant 1c war between sellers.

I’m sorry you’re mad that we sellers are willing to undercut our profits by 1 cp in order to sell faster. If you refresh the TP, and see my listings as cheaper, by all means feel free to post lower. Just don’t be surprised if the price drops by another 1cp on your next refresh.

That’s my entire point. The 5% is charged upon listing and it can be undercut by 1c every time.

I could take the 5% hit and relist, but then another person would just undercut by 1c.

That system doesn’t encourage equilibrium, or that people list items for what they truly value them at. It’s simply a 1c undercut war, where luck determines who actually sells the item.

If buyers were benefiting then that’d be fair game- but they aren’t. They’re getting (at best) 3-4c off the purchase price of items which can be 1g-100g in price. If undercuts required a 1% decrease then buyers would truly be getting value from competition and sellers would need to ask real questions about how much their items are really worth.

But instead continue demonizing me for being greedy because I don’t want to ‘compete’ or some other such nonsense. Because 1c undercutting is ‘true competition’ rather than exploiting a poorly implemented system that rewards luck over the willingness to accept lower prices.

ANet didn’t put creating efficient markets as their #1 priority when they structured the TP. Instead, they seem to have prioritized its use as a money sink with relatively stable prices.

If creating efficient markets was their #1 priority, we’d be able to set a maximum price that we would buy items at, and a minimum price which we would sell at. In such a situation, there’d be a lot fewer opportunities to arbitrage, many of which come from people placing buy orders 1c higher, and sell orders 1c lower. They do a pretty well at getting price stability from the listing fee, however.

All that being said, I personally I’d be thrilled with such a change. It would encourage people to use the sell instantly option more, and I’m almost always submitting buy orders, rather than selling instantly.

Anywhere else, real life online, if you see an advertisement for buying something, you contact the buyer directly. You don’t have to pay for a listing advert lol! OP is right… it’s not game breaking but it makes 0 sense other than a gold sink which hurts buyers by discouraging sellers to sell to the highest bid.