Remove bank and TP from WvW
Actually I think these things should all exist, including crafting stations, but ONLY in towers (and perhaps keeps and so forth).
As a WvW player, I sometimes want something to do while defending a tower. It’s boring to stand there but if I don’t stand there, sometimes it’s really hard to get in and defend the place once it’s under attack.
And at least the “chatters” will have to run somewhere and possibly be involved (even if it’s only as a road bump when the door comes down).
So I agree that banks, trading posts and crafting stations should not be in “safe areas”. They should be in capturable locations.
A game that’s 100% WvW
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/13861848/camelot-unchained
Aye, my thoughts mirror Slamz. They should be in keeps, not in the starting area. You should also be auto-kicked in the starting area after a few minutes. It’s not LA, get out and do something.
Leader of [JDGE] on Gandara EU.
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Yes, because this is WvW, you can’t take 2-5 minutes buying your next lvl equipment from the trading post. If you want that then leave the WvW buy it, then come back. Because the time you stood still you did so much damage to your team, that the rest of the player base could never overcompensate. Never mind that the same thing probably goes on the opponent team as well.
Edit: please note the massive sarcasm quotes
Yes, because this is WvW, you can’t take 2-5 minutes buying your next lvl equipment from the trading post.
I don’t think you quite grasped the issue.
There are people who go into WvW apparently just to spend hours using the trading post. Your had to wait in a queue for 2 hours because, potentially, 10 people are standing there in the starting area playing “trade wars”.
I actually love playing auction house trade wars games but I would still prefer to move it to a tower, where I can play the auction house and watch the tower at the same time. They shouldn’t be in the safe area where people can just sit there and do that all day.
A game that’s 100% WvW
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/13861848/camelot-unchained
zogrim; people buying stuff wasn’t the problem. People joining WvW just to use the TP and Bank without the lag, crowds and running between NPCs was. They removed the bank as Anet agreed it was a problem. Moving the TP into keeps improves the situation by moving people to the battle, where they need to be.
There’s nothing wrong with this request.
Leader of [JDGE] on Gandara EU.
A GW2 API for Objective-C – http://tinyurl.com/durmandpriory
Looking at the TP does not require any NPC. You simply press ‘O’ and there you have it. I don’t see a reason for moving the NPCs.
And taking it out would only cause more annoyance. Because you get loot, and some of the loot I personally store in the bank. Yes, it could wait, but if I die, the extra 20 second of banking and TP items retrieval doesn’t change a thing.
If players stand still before an NPC hours long, the problem is with the player, not the system.
You should encourage the player (not harass him) to do things more efficiently, like go the nearest tower and use TP there.
Ah I see, so because the TP and bank npc stand next to each other people exploit this. Well that’s bad, sorry I misunderstood your intentions.
I no longer see the TP and bank in WvW… no wonder. Still its a headache if you want to get other gem stuff from your bank.
You have to quit WvW to go to a bank in PvE… annoying.
I rarely see that on HoD, queues are so long i dont think its an option for most.
ANSWER: longer queue times for wvw pliz
I store my siege blueprints in my bank, so I dont have to cart them around with me. I queue up and go and do something in PvE for the 1-2hrs it takes till a spot opens up for me. I don’t want to carry all my BPs around with me during the time I’m PvEing, but I also want to be able to get guaranteed access to them from WvW. Say our keeps/towers don’t have the banker upgrades, or (because I’m a European and play on Far Shiverpeaks) Visunah Square owns the entire 4 maps because of their Canadian night shift. I have no way to get my siege weaponry from storage without going back to PvE and then having to queue all over again.
Banks and Trading Post NPCs in the starting area isn’t the problem. It’s people who stay in the starting area for long periods of time.
I think the best solution would be to kick players from WvW if they are in the starting area for more than a 5 minute period. 5 minutes is more than enough for a quick bank to deposit some nice loot, grab some extra supplies, repair your gear, sell the junk and pickup some gold/items from trading post if necessary, and then venture back out into the fray.
Is easier to just remove a NPC than doing a new algoritm.
But if they can kick players who stay in the starting area, NO MATTER WHAT for longer 5 or 10 mins, then yes.
Do you think we dont use bank or TP? and iam using we because iam not the only one, besides i have plenty of slots for carry miserable catapults prints or something else, i never put this in my bank because is something i do regulary i dont know anybody who put these in their bank not even a casual.
Until theres a ‘’good fix’’ for this, we dont want to queue because some dumbs are playing trade wars or stay 30 mins in the bank, its like the dolyaks thing, people entering just for escort that buffalo…why not be a few useful and go capture supply camps atleast.
Do you want to escort? go to the pve map theres a lot.
Do you want to use your bank ? go to lyons arch or any other city, prepare before you attempt to queue not when you are inside to chat with the banker for 30 mins.
Do you want to use the TP? sure press O, thats all you need if you want to do a fast check, but if want to go and waste 30 mins in gem trading or item trading, leave please.
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Removing them is overkill. Just move the bank and trading post NPCs further apart so that the people looking for the most optimal place for trading will pick somewhere else.
People like this guy (watch from 1:43:20 to see why he uses the WvW trading post).
People who use the Bank with the TP for trading should just go to Rata Sum. They’re about 20 feet away from each other.
People who use the Bank with the TP for trading should just go to Rata Sum. They’re about 20 feet away from each other.
Problem is, the WvW trading post and bank NPCs are right beside each other. For someone wanting maximum efficiency, they are only going to use Rata Sum until they get through the WvW queue. Then they’ll use the WvW NPCs, because closer NPCs mean faster profit for them.