Remove downed state from PvP.

Remove downed state from PvP.

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Posted by: Crowz.1096

Crowz.1096

From my understanding, downed state is meant to help in a game where there are no healers. In PvE, I’ve seen it be quite effective.

But let’s use a scenario in SPvP. It’s two on three.
Team 1: guardian, warrior, thief.
Team 2: warrior and ranger
Team 1 kills a thief, and he falls into downed state right away. One player goes to pin him, when he teleports back behind his team. Now two players are attacking team 2 and there is virtually no way to pin that thief without dying, so he rezes. Now it’s still three on one despite for all intents and purposes killing the other player. The best that can be done by team 2 is for the ranger to attempt to shoot down the downed thief, which will almost always fail given the players in this scenario. Warrior would bull’s charge, savage leap, any number of things. It is a certain victory for team 1 in any scenario (unless they’re unbearably awful). In most games, 3v2 isn’t necessarily unreasonable odds at all, but with the downed state, it disbalances the game.
Even 1v1 the downed state is causing problems. For example, I had to spend probably a minute pinning down a kitten thief who kept using downed abilities. This was 1 minute which was essentially wasted time because there was no chance he’d live.

Of course, SPvP isn’t everything, so let’s look at WvW. If one team is bigger than the other by a certain amount, downed players will constantly be revived on the bigger team (given they stay within range of the group), meaning that it plays down to numbers more than skill in WvW. We all know that isn’t what GWII is about.

My suggestion? Simply delete the downed state from PvP.

Remove downed state from PvP.

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Posted by: Fievre.4510

Fievre.4510

No.

3v2 is an advantage to begin with. It’s an unfair situation. On top of that, all you have to do to keep the thief from healing himself is smack him every now and then. If the others heal him? There are knockbacks, stuns, etc. Or better yet? Run away. If these are tournies, you should be communicating well enough for your team to show up. If it’s just the 8v8 games, then it’s irrelevant >_> WvW is also not a good example.