Guild Wars 2

Nobody wants them, nobody needs them. They are lackluster. Instead, falling damage is reduced by 30% by default. The traits could be replaced with something like these:

[Guardian] End of the Line
Wards (Line of Warding, Ring of Warding, Sanctuary) are instant and deal damage to foes when touched.

[Warrior] Brutality
Disabling a foe (by stun, daze, knockback, knockdown, sink, float, fear, or launch) also removes a boon on hit.

[Engineer] Medical Supply
Drop bandages when you take more than 10% damage in a single strike. This effect can only trigger once every 15 seconds.

[Ranger] Thorns
20% chance to cause 3 stacks of bleeding for 5 seconds when struck with a melee attack. This effect cannot trigger more than once every 10 seconds.

[Thief] Escape Artist
Shadowsteps free you from immobilized.

[Elementalist] Hard as Ice, Elusive as Steam
When you are frozen, you get protection. When you are burning, you get swiftness.

[Mesmer] Glimpse of Madness
Gain a random boon when you summon a clone.

[Necromancer] Acidity
When you poison a target, you also apply vulnerability.

Umm… just a question, whats the point of reducing falling damage with 30% by default? Wouldn’t that just mean everyone takes 70% falling damage of what they used to?

Anyways, to counter your first argument “Nobody wants them” well, I do want them, actually. As for “Nobody needs them” well, obviously anyone who wants to be able to utilize more escape routes in WvW needs them.

Oh yeah, and each one of the suggested alternatives is a bit too useful. Especially the Necromancer and Mesmer ones.

I want to keep my fall damage reduction trait, thank you very much.

This is a tough one. I never really learned how to utilize falling damage other than for jumping onto enemies from a high height, which i rarely do because it would end up hurting me more than hurting them.

I rather see more uses of falling damage in blowout and pushback skills. I always thought the warrior’s Stomp skill would utilize falling damage on enemies, but it does not! This was a big “teeeeheeeee” to me. Please ArenaNet, just please…

Seezungenschleuder.8319:

Nobody wants them, nobody needs them. They are lackluster. Instead, falling damage is reduced by 30% by default. The traits could be replaced with something like these:

[Guardian] End of the Line
Wards (Line of Warding, Ring of Warding, Sanctuary) are instant and deal damage to foes when touched.

[Warrior] Brutality
Disabling a foe (by stun, daze, knockback, knockdown, sink, float, fear, or launch) also removes a boon on hit.

[Engineer] Medical Supply
Drop bandages when you take more than 10% damage in a single strike. This effect can only trigger once every 15 seconds.

[Ranger] Thorns
20% chance to cause 3 stacks of bleeding for 5 seconds when struck with a melee attack. This effect cannot trigger more than once every 10 seconds.

[Thief] Escape Artist
Shadowsteps free you from immobilized.

[Elementalist] Hard as Ice, Elusive as Steam
When you are frozen, you get protection. When you are burning, you get swiftness.

[Mesmer] Glimpse of Madness
Gain a random boon when you summon a clone.

[Necromancer] Acidity
When you poison a target, you also apply vulnerability.

I actually use them quite often… on my mesmer.. on my ele… in fact, i would sometimes almost call it OP on some classes.. you dive in on an enemy from the top of the wall and knock them back/stun them etc and run away or finish them off.

Those traits are for WvW specific builds, are all 1st tier to make them easily gotten to, and yes are totally useless for pve/spvp…ok mostly useless for spvp, there are some rare occurances you could make use of em.

I always switch to a falling damage reduction trait when doing elevated jumping puzzles…so yer…not totally useless.

If the OP’s options are only to either replace or keep. I’d say replace. I’d much rather have a chance at a decent Engineer trait. Maybe well even get one with some synergy!

Wolf.5816:

If the OP’s options are only to either replace or keep. I’d say replace. I’d much rather have a chance at a decent Engineer trait. Maybe well even get one with some synergy!

Synergy in engi traits? You know the world will catch on fire before that happens!

Go toe-to-toe with the Risen Priest of Grenth and then you tell me that falling damage traits are pointless.

Crossplay.2067:

Go toe-to-toe with the Risen Priest of Grenth and then you tell me that falling damage traits are pointless.

what class and build you use?

Runiir.6425:

Wolf.5816:

If the OP’s options are only to either replace or keep. I’d say replace. I’d much rather have a chance at a decent Engineer trait. Maybe well even get one with some synergy!

Synergy in engi traits? You know the world will catch on fire before that happens!

Engineer’s.. What are we if not dreamers.

Keep falling damage traits

I love how people get this idea in their head because they don’t use a specific trait(s) and then come to the forums and announce that
“No One uses these X and you should remove them they are useless

When in reality, most people use ( in this example ) falling traits a lot. I know farmers that do gathering that use them. PvE dungeon runners that use them, WvWvW people that use them because of reasons previously stated and tends to be the most used out of all the aspects of the game.

I use mine when I go puzzle jumpin’ like someone else said, or when I get stuck fighting somewhere I might very well fall off. Managed to finish a puzzle because of that trait – couldn’t find the lower ledge for the life ah me, so I risked the long fall to the chest and survived with a sliver of health because of that trait.

Fell off ah mountain fighting dragon worshiping Norn; saved.

Fell off a platform fightin’ a corrupted avatar; booyah.

Missed a jump on a puzzle and the waypoint was waaaaaay over there; ohmegodthankyou!

So I wouldn’ mind some more choices, but I’ll keep my falling trait thank you very much.

Are people seriously that noobish to want to keep these traits? Anyone who needs these traits obviously doesn’t do WvW enough to know where to jump and where not to jump.

The responses make me laugh! Man I would love to smack some of these Carebears…. too bad they’re in the lower tiers.

Seezungenschleuder.8319:

Nobody wants them, nobody needs them

PVEers attacking…

Goloith.6349:

Are people seriously that noobish to want to keep these traits? Anyone who needs these traits obviously doesn’t do WvW enough to know where to jump and where not to jump.

The responses make me laugh! Man I would love to smack some of these Carebears…. too bad they’re in the lower tiers.

Many thieves builds using that trait, coz extra invis. What’s wrong?
If Enginner’s or Necro’s traits are bad – this is reason to remake that traits not to remove from everyone!

Goloith.6349:

Are people seriously that noobish to want to keep these traits? Anyone who needs these traits obviously doesn’t do WvW enough to know where to jump and where not to jump.

The responses make me laugh! Man I would love to smack some of these Carebears…. too bad they’re in the lower tiers.

I am sorry I use falling traits all the time in WvWvW, can I ask what server your part of. Cause I know that blackgate is in the top 3

I actually use the ele fall-damage trait quite a bit for 3 diff uses: (1) when I want to get somewhere far below that might kill me, (2) to occasionally dive-bomb people off of keeps in WvW (this isn’t actually very effective, so I rarely do it), and (3) Jumping puzzles or other where accidental falling could kill me. Other than that, I go back in and switch the trait.

Kaimick.5109:

I love how people get this idea in their head because they don’t use a specific trait(s) and then come to the forums and announce that
“No One uses these X and you should remove them they are useless

When in reality, most people use ( in this example ) falling traits a lot. I know farmers that do gathering that use them. PvE dungeon runners that use them, WvWvW people that use them because of reasons previously stated and tends to be the most used out of all the aspects of the game.

Sure, I’ve used the traits that reduce falling damage before. Both in difficult jumping puzzles and in WvW to make quick retreats. But I believe the OP was expressing his opinion on the traits. As was I, if the options were only to keep them, or replace them with something new than I (opinion) would certainly choose a new trait. I feel that the worse case scenario with not having this trait would be a forced learning curve on falling distance/damage in WvW and would simply require a larger amount of skill and dexterity for those jumping puzzles. Both “penalties” of not having the trait seem completely reasonable to me (opinion). Exspecially since I enjoy a challenge, hence the Engineer being my favorite profession. There for, pertaining to the original post, I would prefer ( opinion) a different trait that has a more applicable long term use for a larger player base as opposed to the few that select this in specific situations.

Wolf.5816:

Kaimick.5109:

I love how people get this idea in their head because they don’t use a specific trait(s) and then come to the forums and announce that
“No One uses these X and you should remove them they are useless

When in reality, most people use ( in this example ) falling traits a lot. I know farmers that do gathering that use them. PvE dungeon runners that use them, WvWvW people that use them because of reasons previously stated and tends to be the most used out of all the aspects of the game.

Sure, I’ve used the traits that reduce falling damage before. Both in difficult jumping puzzles and in WvW to make quick retreats. But I believe the OP was expressing his opinion on the traits. As was I, if the options were only to keep them, or replace them with something new than I (opinion) would certainly choose a new trait. I feel that the worse case scenario with not having this trait would be a forced learning curve on falling distance/damage in WvW and would simply require a larger amount of skill and dexterity for those jumping puzzles. Both “penalties” of not having the trait seem completely reasonable to me (opinion). Exspecially since I enjoy a challenge, hence the Engineer being my favorite profession. There for, pertaining to the original post, I would prefer ( opinion) a different trait that has a more applicable long term use for a larger player base as opposed to the few that select this in specific situations.

My problem is not with the solo opinion of one person, I have no issues with this and I support the ideals of this. Although the OP specifically stated in his title REMOVE and then preceded on saying that him and most people, when in reality he is only speaking for himself. You see most people do this tactic in saying “Most people” or “Everyone” or “Majority of " when they are trying to add some sort of depth to their argument as to why something should be removed

Falling damage traits are quite useful in wvw. They arn’t “useless” but they don’t fill many shoes if you know what I mean. Unless some skill “launched” you up enough to take falling damage or your in a spvp map with tons of drop offs there isn’t a whole lot of use for them.

Rather than remove them or change them completely, why not edit them to include activation on being knocked down and reducing damage when knocked down as that would certainly add to their overall usefulness and make them extremely useful in PvE settings, not to mention make them far less of a “situational” trait.

Yeah, I use them quite a bit in PvE combat. I actually look around at the area to see if there’s a fall that’s just high enough to trigger the trait, but does minimal damage to me. Its just another dimension to the combat system.

OP…If you don’t use them, it doesn’t make them entirely useless, it just means YOU DON’T USE THEM. Leave em alone. Others do use the traits.

For my thief every WvW spec I’v made/used has the fall reduction trait in it. I would have to disagree with this suggestion.

Kaimick.5109:

Goloith.6349:

Are people seriously that noobish to want to keep these traits? Anyone who needs these traits obviously doesn’t do WvW enough to know where to jump and where not to jump.

The responses make me laugh! Man I would love to smack some of these Carebears…. too bad they’re in the lower tiers.

I am sorry I use falling traits all the time in WvWvW, can I ask what server your part of. Cause I know that blackgate is in the top 3

Tier 1 on JQ, guess that’s why we’re ahead of you.

Goloith.6349:

Kaimick.5109:

Goloith.6349:

Are people seriously that noobish to want to keep these traits? Anyone who needs these traits obviously doesn’t do WvW enough to know where to jump and where not to jump.

The responses make me laugh! Man I would love to smack some of these Carebears…. too bad they’re in the lower tiers.

I am sorry I use falling traits all the time in WvWvW, can I ask what server your part of. Cause I know that blackgate is in the top 3

Tier 1 on JQ, guess that’s why we’re ahead of you.

LOL Really you realize that BlackGate is Tier one and last week you won by a margin with Blackgate right on your heals. This week again we are 19 points behind you, I wouldn’t be using anything in comparison of our two servers as your more leet than someone else. Especially to try and support how leet you are, when it is your server not you.

I am glad you feel that it is carebear to use falling damage traits, my suggestion is say that don’t hide behind your server that you could possibly be cared the whole way through and never be anything special to the reason why JQ is currently #1 server in NA, although if we keep what we are doing that will change to BG.

In short you should probably check your facts before talking Kitten unless you are so far a head of them they have no chance of catching you, that is not 19 points.

In closing, I have added you to friends, so when you log in lets hope you are on JQ server. or your going to get a bunch of laughs.

Kaimick.5109:

Goloith.6349:

Kaimick.5109:

Goloith.6349:

Are people seriously that noobish to want to keep these traits? Anyone who needs these traits obviously doesn’t do WvW enough to know where to jump and where not to jump.

The responses make me laugh! Man I would love to smack some of these Carebears…. too bad they’re in the lower tiers.

I am sorry I use falling traits all the time in WvWvW, can I ask what server your part of. Cause I know that blackgate is in the top 3

Tier 1 on JQ, guess that’s why we’re ahead of you.

LOL Really you realize that BlackGate is Tier one and last week you won by a margin with Blackgate right on your heals. This week again we are 19 points behind you, I wouldn’t be using anything in comparison of our two servers as your more leet than someone else. Especially to try and support how leet you are, when it is your server not you.

I am glad you feel that it is carebear to use falling damage traits, my suggestion is say that don’t hide behind your server that you could possibly be cared the whole way through and never be anything special to the reason why JQ is currently #1 server in NA, although if we keep what we are doing that will change to BG.

In short you should probably check your facts before talking Kitten unless you are so far a head of them they have no chance of catching you, that is not 19 points.

In closing, I have added you to friends, so when you log in lets hope you are on JQ server. or your going to get a bunch of laughs.

…..EMP is leading in GvG too? Forget that part?

Goloith.6349:

Kaimick.5109:

Goloith.6349:

Kaimick.5109:

Goloith.6349:

Are people seriously that noobish to want to keep these traits? Anyone who needs these traits obviously doesn’t do WvW enough to know where to jump and where not to jump.

The responses make me laugh! Man I would love to smack some of these Carebears…. too bad they’re in the lower tiers.

I am sorry I use falling traits all the time in WvWvW, can I ask what server your part of. Cause I know that blackgate is in the top 3

Tier 1 on JQ, guess that’s why we’re ahead of you.

LOL Really you realize that BlackGate is Tier one and last week you won by a margin with Blackgate right on your heals. This week again we are 19 points behind you, I wouldn’t be using anything in comparison of our two servers as your more leet than someone else. Especially to try and support how leet you are, when it is your server not you.

I am glad you feel that it is carebear to use falling damage traits, my suggestion is say that don’t hide behind your server that you could possibly be cared the whole way through and never be anything special to the reason why JQ is currently #1 server in NA, although if we keep what we are doing that will change to BG.

In short you should probably check your facts before talking Kitten unless you are so far a head of them they have no chance of catching you, that is not 19 points.

In closing, I have added you to friends, so when you log in lets hope you are on JQ server. or your going to get a bunch of laughs.

…..EMP is leading in GvG too? Forget that part?

What does EMP have anything to do with my comment? EMP is not you, and EMP doesn’t change the fact that as I stated previously BG is only 19 points behind JQ. In fact none of what you said has any meaning to my post.