Guild Wars 2

Although I have not yet been in a situation to need this, I found this would really be a nice change of pace for those players who are a bit slower, or those months/days where you don’t find enough time due to real life reasons, for example.

Basically, what I propose is that the daily and monthly achievements shall not reset unless they are 100% fulfilled. This then allows people to complete the daily achievements over the course of two or more days; thus they are getting less reward/day, but they still get something out of the achievement at all. The same then applies to monthly achievements, which everyone could also complete at their own pace, while finishing it every month obviously gives the highest reward/month.

There is no manner of abuse or exploitation in this, so I agree 100%.
I’m stressed, but my situation is not at all unique or rare so no use in me ranting.

This is how several other games handle these things. It really benefits those players who don’t get to play every day, or for much time per session.

but then it wouldn’t be a daily …..

Alright, I was creating a topic but this one popped up first, so redirecting my efforts here.

Ranting explanation: Alright, my situation is not at all unique, so you can guess the content of this part. I was incredibly close to completing the Monthly Achievement. I had only a few salvages to go, so I had been spending my entire session today crafting to generate some stuff to salvage (without going into detail, it was monetarily more efficient than hunting loot in my current status). I had to be going through it slowly however, my inventory is filled with all the slot-filling halloween items. I had only 3 open slot and was crafting at a limited pace. Because it’s fun and has a reward I still have a use for, every time the Mad King showed up I would take a break to have fun. Well that sure hurt me in the end. It was also probably a mistake to take a break for lunch earlier.

My clock says it is still October. The event I’ve been playing today tells me the same. Why have I been punished for the game disagreeing with reality?

Easy/quick solution: I know the devs have have priorities, so maybe no full-fix in the next patch. But do something “quick”, please. One thing is to push back Monthly Achievements 24 hours so that the reset boundary ACTUALLY matches the month. Another option to help players is to add a timer to the Daily and Monthly entries. If the achievement is going to reset at a strict time, then make it CLEAR to players what that exact time is. But neither of these would be needed with a proper fix.

Real solution: Make the reset more relative to the player. The simpler may be to just postpone the reset until a player changes zones, but that will still leave a few upset. It would be more fair to either tie it in to the current session, or just straightforwardly tie it in to completion directly. I’m not sure which is most difficult to code, but the current “intent” of periodic achievements is probably not being met when players are punished for pursuing that goal and being a little slow at it.

Why it’ll work: If you add this type of delay to the reset, it still balances out and does not reach any ranges of exploitation and still achieves its goal of encouraging frequent play. If a person is making progress on Dailies of Day A and are still working toward it on Day B, they still have access to no more than what a player being on time has, even though such a player may witness rewards twice in one day. But it cannot exceed that, as if Day A carries on in to Day C (somehow), one full day is still missed. Being fully active still has every advantage, while slow players are not “punished” yet still have a reward to pursue.

Argh I’m in the same boat. I logged in today to finish up my October monthly, and when I checked my progress, saw that it was November??? It’s Halloween! Halloween isn’t in November!

Adine.2184:

but then it wouldn’t be a daily …..

Sure it would. You can do it once a day or month. But get the option to do it over 2 or 3 days/months.

I approve of this change.

Adine.2184:

but then it wouldn’t be a daily …..

How so? It’s a repeatable quest that is available at a maximum of once per day.

Now, how WoW and SWTOR treat them, if I remember correctly, is that you can only complete the quest once per day. So if you don’t finish on Day 1, your progress carries over to Day 2, but it then counts the completion as Day 2’s completion. You don’t get to complete it twice on Day 2, once for the carryover from Day 1 and once for Day 2.

I’m not asking to be able to take longer than a Month to complete my Monthly and still be able to get the next month’s reward. I’m asking that if I didn’t finish my October stuff, to carry it over and let me finish it for November.

yup i like this idea.

Ya , it’s better to allow us to continue other daily events next day.
Some people may be busy one day and have a free time next so they can do the daily twice.

I disagree that this needs to be handled like WoW. In WoW they had daily quests not daily achievements. I think there is an important distinction here in that you are trying to achieve something over the course of a day. Completing the requirements is just one part of the achievement. Completing it within the time constraint is the other part.

Now…what is a big problem is when a monthly achievement is ended a day early. I ran into a similar problem that Tera Gx ran into. I was grinding out all the pieces of the monthly achievement. The only part left was about 80 salvages and it was October 30th. I decided to head to bed and finish after work the next day OCTOBER 31st! When I got on my local time was still well before midnight. Server time is 3 hours behind so it wasn’t an issue of time zones. Anet just ended the monthly achievement early.

Some people told me “Who cares?” and to some extent they’re right. This is just a game and it’s not like this one event ruined my experience but it’s really kitten frustrating to be working on something that takes a full month to complete and to plan it out such that you know you’ll achieve your goal only to have the rules changed and as a result you fail. Not only do you fail but you wasted a great amount of gold salvaging items that had more value as vendor trash than as their components.

If someone from anet sees this post and feels like retroactively granting october’s monthly achievement that would be a really nice gesture. If nothing else I hope we could get some clarification on when months end if not at midnight server time of the last day of the month.

I had opened a support ticket yesterday (121101-000236) and here’s the reply I got:

We are sorry to report that once the achievements reset, there is nothing we can do about them.

I’m not sure what next. It’s hard to accept that as truth, I would believe it is more of an issue that they don’t want to because of the large number of players they would have to compensate. But the scale here I feel is too great to skip taking any responsibility.

The monthly reward of 20 Mystic Coins and 10 Jugs of Karma is not insignificant. It takes hard work to earn that stuff, and we put much work into into the Monthly achievement itself, yet we’ll now be behind other players on those same goals because of the game’s disagreement with reality.

This could work for dailies but sort of defeats the concept of daily achievements. This would not work for monthlies, which change for each specific month.

EnemyCrusher.7324:

…defeats the concept of daily achievements…

Presently, you can complete 2 Dailies in one day. If your session crosses the reset time, you can complete it once earlier on, and again after the reset passes. You are not able to access a higher rate of completing Dailies doing this however. Changing the timing on Dailies does not change that. You will have access to no more or no less Dailies than is currently in place.

But, if you dedicate your session to pursuing the Daily, and then that reset comes, it’s a frustrating loss. Your time committed to it failed to count towards Dailies, and the new Daily is blank.

I don’t see why adjusting the Monthly would be any different, you’d still be pursuing to finish off the original objectives you had a lot of progress on.

On a different note, the next support reply on the consideration of compensation:

We are very sorry to hear you ran into this issue before you could complete your achievements. That said I’m afraid we don’t have a way to reset your achievement progress once it has switched over. That is all handled by an automated system which we are not able to affect after the fact. We are very sorry that you missed out on some achievements, but I’m afraid there will not be a way for us to allow you to complete them at this time.

I personally will accept that’s that, went on to close my ticket. Doesn’t look like the idea can be pursued, but a minimum change is still needed.

Dailies, sure, but I wouldn’t agree to it for monthlies. They add new achievements every month, and you wouldn’t be able to aim for those without completing the previous ones.

Why would it be called a monthly, if you get the points for it whenever you want? Why not just make it an infinite achievement like total salvages, but it gives you a chest every now and then?

No, let’s keep daily and monthly achievements being daily and monthly. We all know what time server time is, and when day/months change is based on it.

How odd that the monthly reset on the 31st. I thought it reset on the first. I suppose this was a time zone issue. For instance it is the 1st in the server time zone but still the 31st in the players time zone? Perhaps a lesson learned if that was the case. I see the case for both sides but I think part of the intended achievement is that it is achieved within the time constraint of the day/month. I can see where a super casual player would miss out on them as their play time would be insufficient to be able to complete them within the time constraint. It doesn’t really matter to me if they were to change it based on this suggestion or not. I tend to play enough to be able to get them within the time constraint so I would still get it the current way after the change if a change is made.

Most of the time I rush home, get dinner, start playing a bit, almost get the daily done and then it resets ( 8pm EDT), start it again and have gotten the equivalent of the daily achievement before logging for bed but because the reset is in the middle of my prime playing time I get no credit. Yes it could be completed the next evening before reset if the stars align and I don’t have to work late the next day.

Perhaps we could choose when to have our ‘day’ reset, 10 pm EDT would work well in my world but not for those on the west coast, otherwise rolling dailies to the next day would be appreciated.

Thanks

PS With the end of daylight savings time it looks like daily reset will be 4pm PST (7pm PST) starting tomorrow.

Thanks