Guild Wars 2

Every other game has this. It seems like an incredible waste of resources to keep SPvP an entirely disparate entity and it would let people level things they perhaps enjoy in SPvP, but not in the open world.

This especially holds true when you’re leveling your 3rd alt and would like a break from all of the stuff you’ve done before, even crafting.

I know GW1 didn’t have this per se, but GW1 didn’t have WvW either ,or JP, or three degrees of freedom.

GW1 had tomes which you cuold unlock skills you had unlocked with pvp toons to pve toons, where in gw2 only interraction between spvp and pve/wvw in colours. We definetly need some more interraction between them so time in PvP isn’t totally wasted time to working up your PvE goals and vice versa. (I have been thinking somekind of link between glory and karma could be nice, or skillpoints and glory)

I wouldn’t mind this at all. I’m on my 4th alt and would love an alternate way to level. I know that this would definitely get me into sPvP if there was a way to gain xp for that alt in there.

I have no clue why they cut-off practically everything in PvE/PvP. Have they ever came out and said why?

I find it completely dumb ( sorry ) that everything you work for in PvE or PvP is completely irrelevant to the other part of the game. My major gripe is that I can’t run around in my PvE armor in PvP. I might be nub, but I want to look like a pro.

crestpiemangler.7631:

Every other game has this. It seems like an incredible waste of resources to keep SPvP an entirely disparate entity and it would let people level things they perhaps enjoy in SPvP, but not in the open world.

This especially holds true when you’re leveling your 3rd alt and would like a break from all of the stuff you’ve done before, even crafting.

I know GW1 didn’t have this per se, but GW1 didn’t have WvW either ,or JP, or three degrees of freedom.

Just to play devil’s advocate here. If playing PvP would give me PvE experience, why shouldn’t PvE (lets just say lvls or even exp for ease) give me glory. Why can’t I be rank 30, just from running around PvE a lot? (Also, I know this doesn’t helps much, but we did get an instant lvl 20 consumable from the 5k achievement point chest, so that does help cut down some of the time on a new alt)

I thought PvP was to be completely separate to keep things balanced and let anyone who buys the game today compete competitively with someone who bought the game a year ago. In WvW you can level yourself, and use your PvE gear but that was meant to include such differences.

Wallace MacBix.2089:

Just to play devil’s advocate here. If playing PvP would give me PvE experience, why shouldn’t PvE (lets just say lvls or even exp for ease) give me glory. Why can’t I be rank 30, just from running around PvE a lot? (Also, I know this doesn’t helps much, but we did get an instant lvl 20 consumable from the 5k achievement point chest, so that does help cut down some of the time on a new alt)

I thought PvP was to be completely separate to keep things balanced and let anyone who buys the game today compete competitively with someone who bought the game a year ago. In WvW you can level yourself, and use your PvE gear but that was meant to include such differences.

It’s rather simple: PvP is always more difficult than PvE, especially in this game where nothing in the open world is even remotely challenging for the player.

That’s why every other game with instanced battlegrounds awards exp for doing well, or even just participating in PvP.

Open world, on the other hand, does nothing to prepare you for PvP.

That’s why people who have run through the game multiple times wish to go a different route.

Progression and balance have nothing to do with each other really, not to mention that SPvP and PvE converge to different values entirely…

Wait… what? How does this idea make sense?

Nope, bad idea. Rewards for what you play. Not what you don’t play.

WhiteAndMilky.2514:

Nope, bad idea. Rewards for what you play. Not what you don’t play.

If what you play is more challenging than the other content in the game, then it should reward you commensurately for it.

The open world PvE in this game, without the stunning visuals, i.e. exploration, is bad. Objectively. The mob AI and single button rotations are not what GW2 is known for. It wasn’t even what GW1 was known for.

Do you think a lot of people would play LoL if you were forced to play against bots exclusively until level 30?

Of course not.

Fortunately levels don’t apply to spvp! so you never need to pve, ever!

WhiteAndMilky.2514:

Fortunately levels don’t apply to spvp! so you never need to pve, ever!

…. you don’t say …

crestpiemangler.7631:

WhiteAndMilky.2514:

Nope, bad idea. Rewards for what you play. Not what you don’t play.

If what you play is more challenging than the other content in the game, then it should reward you commensurately for it.

Okie doke, so I have over 3k hours of almost exclusively wvw, and I don’t afk. I deserve 5-6 legendries then by your logic.

Edit: I should also be rank 50-60 in spvp for the work I’ve done.

WhiteAndMilky.2514:

Okie doke, so I have over 3k hours of almost exclusively wvw, and I don’t afk. I deserve 5-6 legendries then by your logic.

Edit: I should also be rank 50-60 in spvp for the work I’ve done.

If you say so.

Glad you find WvW challenging.. and I actually agree that you deserve a legendary.

So because you find sPvP more challenging than other aspects of your game (your opinion not a fact) you feel like you should get map completion? I’m rank 20 in PvP and have 100% map completion. Should I be boosted to Rank 60 because I play tons more PvE than PvP?

No.

TehPwnerer.7215:

So because you find sPvP more challenging than other aspects of your game (your opinion not a fact) you feel like you should get map completion? I’m rank 20 in PvP and have 100% map completion. Should I be boosted to Rank 60 because I play tons more PvE than PvP?

No.

It’s fact. Prove to me that somehow pressing 1 is more challenging than defeating human opponents in a PvP arena.

Oh.. that’s right.. the most challenging aspect of PvE is placing marks/aoe circles, that aren’t even time constrained since it’s mostly static with little movement outside of dungeons.

You’re right. You shouldn’t get boosted in PvP rank, because the open world renown hearts/skill challenges aren’t challenging at all, but tedious.

Ok cool. Well then enjoy your 0% map completion. Don’t worry it’s super easy to get.

TehPwnerer.7215:

Ok cool. Well then enjoy your 0% map completion. Don’t worry it’s super easy to get.

Yeah 100% required two PhDs in the natural sciences and ESL twitch reflexes to obtain, I’m sure.

crestpiemangler.7631:

TehPwnerer.7215:

Ok cool. Well then enjoy your 0% map completion. Don’t worry it’s super easy to get.

Yeah 100% required two PhDs in the natural sciences and ESL twitch reflexes to obtain, I’m sure.

All this time you’re sitting here begging Anet to give you things you didn’t earn can be spent in game earning them.

TehPwnerer.7215:

All this time you’re sitting here begging Anet to give you things you didn’t earn can be spent in game earning them.

It’s a game, not a job. I play a game to have fun. You shouldn’t have to “earn” anything if it involves something a toddler could do.

The whole point of a game is having some kind of challenge to it. Rewarding people for doing things that aren’t fun in a game is simply stupid. It’s like asking somebody to count out loud to 5 trillion and awarding him 100 dollars for it.

crestpiemangler.7631:

TehPwnerer.7215:

All this time you’re sitting here begging Anet to give you things you didn’t earn can be spent in game earning them.

It’s a game, not a job. I play a game to have fun. You shouldn’t have to “earn” anything if it involves something a toddler could do.

The whole point of a game is having some kind of challenge to it. Rewarding people for doing things that aren’t fun in a game is simply stupid. It’s like asking somebody to count out loud to 5 trillion and awarding him 100 dollars for it.

I found exploring the map to 100% extremely fun. Bottom line is if you don’t want to spend time getting something, don’t expect to get it.

I WANT REWARDS FOR THINGS I DON’T DO.

I hunt down veteran karka as a hobby. I can assure you, it’s not pressing one button. If you don’t find challenge in PvE, you aren’t looking for it (though I’d like there to be many, many more interesting and challenging enemies in PvE).

And another thing, if PvE is so easy, why don’t you do it? Because you enjoy PvP more? Well then play PvP. I play both and it’s never bothered me that they are separate.

Tuomir.1830:

And another thing, if PvE is so easy, why don’t you do it? Because you enjoy PvP more? Well then play PvP. I play both and it’s never bothered me that they are separate.

Just summed it up for me too.

TehPwnerer.7215:

Tuomir.1830:

And another thing, if PvE is so easy, why don’t you do it? Because you enjoy PvP more? Well then play PvP. I play both and it’s never bothered me that they are separate.

Just summed it up for me too.

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Tuomir.1830:

I hunt down veteran karka as a hobby. I can assure you, it’s not pressing one button. If you don’t find challenge in PvE, you aren’t looking for it (though I’d like there to be many, many more interesting and challenging enemies in PvE).

And another thing, if PvE is so easy, why don’t you do it? Because you enjoy PvP more? Well then play PvP. I play both and it’s never bothered me that they are separate.

I don’t enjoy things that are easy and handed to me on a silver platter provided I do boring, tedious things ad nauseam.

Not to mention that this discussion is mostly about the leveling experience… aka repeating the same trivial content again, or buying a bunch of mats from the TP, clicking a few buttons and going AFK.

crestpiemangler.7631:

Tuomir.1830:

I hunt down veteran karka as a hobby. I can assure you, it’s not pressing one button. If you don’t find challenge in PvE, you aren’t looking for it (though I’d like there to be many, many more interesting and challenging enemies in PvE).

And another thing, if PvE is so easy, why don’t you do it? Because you enjoy PvP more? Well then play PvP. I play both and it’s never bothered me that they are separate.

I don’t enjoy things that are easy and handed to me on a silver platter provided I do boring, tedious things ad nauseam.

Yet you’re asking for a free 100% map completion on a silver platter. Ironic.

TehPwnerer.7215:

Yet you’re asking for a free 100% map completion on a silver platter. Ironic.

Nope. I’m asking for 1-80 over a reasonable amount of time (say 80 hours) without stepping foot outside of SPvP.

I know you’re trying to bait me into insulting you, so you can report me, but I’m not falling for it… and I really appreciate the bumps

crestpiemangler.7631:

TehPwnerer.7215:

Yet you’re asking for a free 100% map completion on a silver platter. Ironic.

Nope. I’m asking for 1-80 over a reasonable amount of time (say 80 hours) without stepping foot outside of SPvP.

I know you’re trying to bait me into insulting you, so you can report me, but I’m not falling for it… and I really appreciate the bumps

Not baiting you into anything I’m saying you’re contradicting yourself saying that you don’t want stuff handed to you, yet you’re saying that you want free stuff for aspects of the game you never play.

It’s simple. If you want PvE stuff play some PvE. Enjoy the bumps. Last time I post here.

TehPwnerer.7215:

Not baiting you into anything I’m saying you’re contradicting yourself saying that you don’t want stuff handed to you, yet you’re saying that you want free stuff for aspects of the game you never play.

It’s simple. If you want PvE stuff play some PvE. Enjoy the bumps. Last time I post here.

Thank you again for the exposure.