Guild Wars 2

I got my first Fractal weapon today, A Fractal Trident! Woo. (Sarcasm) regardless, after the run I go through my inventory spam salvaging all the blues and whites. Apparently this item despite being an ‘exotic’ is treated like a blue. No confirmation window on salvaging it.

Luckily I don’t particularly care for the item, but if the lack of confirmation window exists on other Fractal Skin items, it needs to change.

Oh, and make Fractal Weapons buyable for Relics while your at it. =P

You make them buyable and suddenly every low level fractal player grinds them out. They’d be everywhere.

SteepledHat.1345:

You make them buyable and suddenly every low level fractal player grinds them out. They’d be everywhere.

I agree, fractal weapons IMO was the only high-level skin designed correctly. They drop rarely but not impossibly rare and they are only available for players who dedicate themselves to fractals.

We should be able to buy them for Fractal Relics (1k for skin) or Prestine Fractal Relic (100+ or 200+ for skin).

SteepledHat.1345:

You make them buyable and suddenly every low level fractal player grinds them out. They’d be everywhere.

Ok, I gotta be “that guy” here: Who gives a kitten? You should be concerned about how you acquire it, not anyone else. How do other people’s weapon choice affect your own? Are you one of those vacuous “jet-set” cows to whom someone else wearing the same dress to a party is a life changing trauma? Cause those are the people that don’t acquire things because they like them, but because they feel small and impotent, and see in these items a vicarious path to some sort of relevance: “Look at the thing I have and you don’t! Aren’t you jealous of the thing? Doesn’t matter what the thing is! It could be an aeroplane or a fresh kitten It only matters that I have it, and you don’t!”. That is one kittening sad way to just drag on existence in my book…

I’m sorry, and maybe I’m the weirdo here, but this is an argument I hear all the time for various things and I just don’t get it. I pick these skins based on whether or not I like them. If I like them I’ll like them just as much whether they’re 5 cooper a piece and everyone has one or if they’re legendary, worth 5k gold, and I’m one of only 4 people with them. The visual and aesthetic properties I found pleasing don’t change in any way based on whether more or less people own the item…

If you have a legitimate argument I’m ready to hear it. If your argument is “because I don’t want other people to have it too!” then I couldn’t give less of a kitten and I can only hope that’s the kind of kitten that’s never even remotely considered during the game’s development.

What a very long winded way of insulting me. It has nothing to do with feeling small or impotent (I do wonder if you might be projecting there.) and has everything to do with recognizing achievement. Rewards that show you did something. It does distinguish you from others. It offers a sense of progression and achievement. You’d like to sully that by making it more accessible. It’s in accessibility is why it has prestige. I really don’t see how this view is anything but natural. It doesn’t mean I’m a better player, just that I accomplished a particular goal. The suggestion of making them buyable with relics moves the goal post far to close to the starting point and therefore lowers the associated prestige.

Now go insult someone else.

SteepledHat.1345:

Rewards that show you did something.

…Won the RNG mini-lottery? That’s an achievement? If you really wanted something that showed achievement, that in any way reflected any form of “skill” of any kind instead of luck, wouldn’t you prefer the weapon to be sold for fractal relics? Cause that would, at least, show people you’ve done a certain amount of fractals. As a random drop all it shows is “I got lucky on a drop”. Gg…?

SteepledHat.1345:

It does distinguish you from others.

I thought the fact that you achieved whatever it is you’re proud of distinguishes you from others. A few weeks ago, for a little while, I rallied my server under my command despite the fact that I’m not a commander (we had no commander available) and gained some significant ground for our world while outnumbered. That’s an achievement I’m proud of. I don’t see the need for an item or achievement tab saying “you did this!”. I know I did. I was there.

That’s also how I remember people worth remembering. I remember the victories Commanders like Disapoohval and Juvez have organized. I remember the massive abject failures of other less apt/intelligent commanders (whom I won’t name due to “name and shame” rules). I don’t remember anyone for an item they had. Nor do I know anyone that is remembered for their gear. Sometimes me and my friends might comment when we see a weapon we don’t see often, like a legendary, but it’s always a passing note on the item, never on the person. I can not remember a single time we even read the name of the person using the weapon in question, let alone remember or “distinguish” it.

So no, I still don’t get how it would “taint” the weapon in any way. Your gear does not distinguish you in the least, least of all RNG-based gear.

This thread is so off topic, i dont know what to comment on. The actual thread initial post content, or what its become

JJBigs.8456:

This thread is so off topic, i dont know what to comment on. The actual thread initial post content, or what its become

Actually you’re completely right. Apologies on the complete off topic, it’s just one of those things I honestly can’t understand.

Yes, Salving Fractal Weapons, like any other exotic, should come with a warning.

I feel ya hehe as it was interesting and I was tempted to respond but didnt know how to group everything up

ProxyDamage.9826:

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Everyone derives enjoyment from this game in different ways. Your method seems to be belittling how others find that enjoyment.

Eliyahu.1467:

Everyone derives enjoyment from this game in different ways. Your method seems to be belittling how others find that enjoyment.

Oh heavens no. My method is actually quite the opposite: If your method of enjoying the game can only exist through limiting other player’s enjoyment, then your method can go kitten itself.

I.e.: It’s not legitimate to say that other players shouldn’t have different ways of accessing certain content (that you’re not forced to use) because that somehow makes it less enjoyable for you that they’re also enjoying the same content.

But this isn’t actually what the thread is about, as we’ve discussed. The thread is about Fractal Weapons not having a salvage warning. Just wanted to clear that up that misunderstanding.

Sorry, to drive it off topic. He managed to goad a response out of me.

Happened to me to, at least it was just the mace skin. Never woulda used it but it looked Dam sexy

I’d prefer a token drop which can be exchanged for the skin of choice.

I’ve dedicated myself to fractals since the Lost Shores update. I’ve gotten a rifle. Months later, nothing. I personally like most of the Fractal Weapons over any of the Legendaries. So therefore my main being in Guild Wars is fractals. But since I don’t have many weapons to show off in the months I’ve been running it, I feel out of place. Other players have way more than they should. Multiples at times, and they just started! WTF.

ProxyDamage.9826:

SteepledHat.1345:

You make them buyable and suddenly every low level fractal player grinds them out. They’d be everywhere.

Ok, I gotta be “that guy” here: Who gives a kitten? You should be concerned about how you acquire it, not anyone else. How do other people’s weapon choice affect your own? Are you one of those vacuous “jet-set” cows to whom someone else wearing the same dress to a party is a life changing trauma? Cause those are the people that don’t acquire things because they like them, but because they feel small and impotent, and see in these items a vicarious path to some sort of relevance: “Look at the thing I have and you don’t! Aren’t you jealous of the thing? Doesn’t matter what the thing is! It could be an aeroplane or a fresh kitten It only matters that I have it, and you don’t!”. That is one kittening sad way to just drag on existence in my book…

I’m sorry, and maybe I’m the weirdo here, but this is an argument I hear all the time for various things and I just don’t get it. I pick these skins based on whether or not I like them. If I like them I’ll like them just as much whether they’re 5 cooper a piece and everyone has one or if they’re legendary, worth 5k gold, and I’m one of only 4 people with them. The visual and aesthetic properties I found pleasing don’t change in any way based on whether more or less people own the item…

If you have a legitimate argument I’m ready to hear it. If your argument is “because I don’t want other people to have it too!” then I couldn’t give less of a kitten and I can only hope that’s the kind of kitten that’s never even remotely considered during the game’s development.

So I don’t know if this counts as a legitimate argument or not, but it isn’t exclusively an, “I have it and you don’t, ha ha ha,” situation. I don’t do Fractals nearly as much as I’d like, and I don’t have one of these things. I don’t even know what they look like and am not personally seeking them, so we can get that out of the way. I have a Wolfborn Bow. It’s a Norn racial weapon, on my human. Absolutely anyone can get them, but very few do. I adore it, I think it’s beautiful, but I am also very proud of it because it’s exceptionally rare to see one. In all the time I’ve played I’ve only seen one other and very recently. When I saw it, though, I couldn’t help but feel it diminished my uniqueness, like it could become a fad and suddenly I was just another in the crowd.

I think in some respects that may be part of the mentality of people not wanting others to gain something easily. They feel unique now and don’t want to let go of that feeling, which they will lose if everyone can have the thing they have. Which is probably just the other side of the coin of feeling better that they have what others don’t.

I’ll throw in that this entire argument IS, in fact, on topic because of the last line of the OP. In case anyone wants to get into it again. I mean honestly there isn’t a need to even post about the first part. He’s absolutely right, there should automatically be a pop up for anything rare or higher. That is a bug and it needs to be fixed.