Guild Wars 2

I have really enjoyed playing this game and have for the last weeks been determined to make 100% in World Map Completion. And yesterday I thought I had that done when I understand that I must play WvW to get the last Pois, Vistas and Skill Points.

I do understand that you want people to try out WvW, but you also had this as a monthly achievement for October. And that was enough. I can also take it that you have to do 1 (one) of the zones. Like Far Shiverpeaks. But to run 3 zones that looks identic is just amazingly boring and makes no purpose.

The game should not depend on having to relog to find out if a Poi or Vista may be able to get due to other peoples affords. I dont like WvW a bit, and have tryed it.

There should be seperate WvW-achievements and leave the other things for itself. I feel that the game is a bit ruined now, having to play WvW. I like doing it my on way, my paste with no depending on other people.

I understand you guys that play WvW and its fine, play it! Have fun, enjoy! But its not for everyone!

You do not reward people for having 100 apples, and 100 oranges to people who only have 100 apples. If you want to be rewarded for something do what is required to be rewarded for it. If you don´t want to do what is required you do not deserve to be rewarded.
Also the 100% map completion is required for components needed for legendary weapons. If you are too scared/cowardly/selfish/lazy to participate in WvW then you are not deserving of a legendary weapon.

To Arxen – Really? The only think you came up with is an apple and orange quote? Anywho, I agree with the OP. There is no way that any one got he POI of keeps and towers unless you roll into WvW. If the enemy team has Keeps, it will belong to them at least if they are winning. Specially the ones near their spawn point. Either we as a team will have to break it down and capture it. So there is no way a zerg is gonna come up and break down the gate just so you can get the POI. The only option is to switch servers which has now been minimized to weekly. Next time, try and come up with a more helpful response!

I complained about it as well but in the end it was not a problem. My only complaint still is we should only have to do “our” borderlands (not all three of them, they are all the same) and the Eternal Borderlands. You don’t make us do three exact copies of any other zone – why WvW? Or better yet spread them out in all four zones but only put “stuff” insides castles in your home world and EB areas.

I actually had fun doing those and joined in some WvW. A guildmate of mine did the same. He never would have gone in just for WvW but found he had fun joining in with some of the groups there.

I understand that many do not like it, but even though I’m more oriented to PvE, it worked to lure me into WvW. That might be their goal.

Arxen. Its really not that I am being lazy or a coward. If so I would not have started to progress at 100%. The I would not spend all time making EVERYTHING on the map in all zones in the game. And as I said. I understand that WvW can be fun for the people getting involved there. But it is not for everyone. And with that, I really think it should be enough to clear out one zone, not 3 that looks the same + EB. And I know that I get rewarded, if it wasnt like that I would never made the choise to achieve the map completion the first time.

And to swith server just to get a reward is not a winning idéa. It also makes the queing longer for you guys that enjow playing WvW. Now people like me, the ones only looking to get the map will just take place for that and not participating in what is is meant to be!

To Katz, well I think the mounthly achievement is enough to lure people in to WvW. They dont need it in the original game as a “must do”. And just one borderland should really be enough when they are identic.

I have been trying for 20h+ ours to like this, but I really dont!

I must admit that I also find it quite annoying to have to “complete” the WvW maps in Order to get 100% world completion – mostly because I can not do this “on my own time”, as there is simply no way I could get all those POI etc. without a large group, especially when our Server is losing (Gandara player here).
I do not mind being encouraged to to some WvW content (heck, I actually enjoy it) – but being forced to wait with completing an achievement that I perceive as PvE based because of PvP-matters is not particularly enjoyable.

I would have never gone in just for the monthly achievement. But I understand what you mean. I was annoyed about it at first too. Then I really got into figuring out how to do it. I even got up at 5 am on a Saturday because that’s the time of day when my server has more of the map. By the end I felt a sense of accomplishment. I helped to take over some of the places where I needed the inside POI and/or vista.

The most fun was when there was a group of us (around 15) circling the map getting all the points needed.

I took the long approach though. I would just check the WvW map to see if it looked doable. And then leave when it got hectic and go do other things. It took me a while that way but really cut down on it being frustrating. Instead of going in and getting the entire map like I do in PvE areas. I would just get part of the map each time.

I’m not arguing against your point here, just trying to suggest ways to make it less painful to do for you.

Katz, yeah I understand that I can do it that way. And its the way I am going to do it know, because there is no other way. But I dont like it when having to depend on others to make a “PvE-thing”. I really think that that part should be separate from WvW. But I am going to make this, just want to make complains to this whole idéa.

Someone posted a while back a server ranking for the WvW. I lost the link after I re-installed Windows but all you do is jump to a server who are doing good in WvW. Take a slot away from someone who actually wants to do WvW and go get your explorer.

Thats what I’ll be doing when I get around to re-downloading GW2.

Paul, yeah I have to do it like that. Its stupid as hell but the only way. The most annoing bit is there are so few WPs and you have to run all the way when dead. And you usually die when trying to explore by yourself because thats how I want to do it : /

To Wolfgang Michael. It wasn’t a quote at all. It was an example. Would it lend more credibility if I used “100 dogs, and 100 cats” or “175 copper ore, and 25 orichalcum ore”? I don’t see how this isn’t helpful. I’m saying this will not change for good reasons.
A change like this would be too big. The people who already got this achievement would need to be compensated for the extra effort they put in. You could make two extra achievements; one for PvE, and one for WvW but then people will still want the big gold star on their character selection screen still complaining about WvW.
And to all who say it’s a PvE achievement it obviously isn’t if you have to do more than PvE.

Perhaps the new island will offer a new way to get 100% completion? we shall see nove 15th.

Well I do doubt that, but noone would be more happy then me if thats the case Brokenserenity

I hate that WvW is part of the World Completion.. It takes ages just getting POI and Vistas. And now server change got a 7 day cooldown instead of 24.. So thats not really and option..
So everyone just have to wait for new servers, and beg that your server gets put in the spot where your 1 unexplored POI is..

I didnt buy GW2 for WvW. I have gotten the entire map to 100% with the exception of WvW. For the love of god separate them! When I will be in WvW it wont be to hold fort whatever it will be to complete the map and thus I am taking up a spot that someone would like to use for WvW.
Why not also make SPvP vistas and poi as well…
This was a bad bad bad bad decision.
Maybe I should just server hop in order to get this achievement?Right

Why is WvW in there anyway? It’s in the mists rather than the ‘world’ isn’t it? And didn’t they leave out dungeons?*

*I know they have PoI, but from what I’ve heard you don’t need them for completion.

Nayru.3947:

Wouldn’t be fair to everyone who has done 100% map completion already. If everyone else can do it, so can you. Lazy comes to mind.

Lazy? Just because I dont want to play WvW, I really dont understand that. I have played WvW maybe 35 hours just to try getting all the pois and vistas. But my “team” is not that good in taking over places I want. So I really cant do anything to get my last 2% for World Complete. And I am going to play WvW for 500 badges of Honor for my legendary. And I dont complain about that. Because I know what I need to do for a legendary and its tough tough! But World Completion should not be about taking places in PvP and in the Mist.

I believe a primary source of anxiety is that Map Complete is needed for Legendary Weapons. Since the Gift of Battle already exists to get players to play WvW, I agree that including WvW Zones creates more problems than it solves. For instance, PVE “Exploration” guilds taking up spots during peek hours increasing queue times and players transferring servers to Green/Red/Blue servers just for this purpose.

If the issue is the “Been there, Done that” title, you can easily make a separate WvW Map Complete title.

I think certain POI and vistas in eternal battlegrounds should be removed or moved so your side do not need to hold the castle to get those.

It is unnecessarily hard to get those currently. If you are unlucky you just have to wait a year for your server to get “lucky” and have spawn point in right place because taking those castles is very hard even if you had 50 man guild team, which is a luxury. All this just to get couple of points left. This is even harder for people who do not enjoy pvp at all.

All the borderlands castles and towers change owner quite often so that is not really a problem but these hard to get castles on EB are.

I have 100% world completion, and I would gladly lose it (and those ingredients for legendary weapon) if they changed it to exporing dungeons instead of WvW. PvErs Don’t like WvW A-Net, stop lying to yourselves!

World completers get in the way of WvWers and vice versa, how difficult is this to get a hold of? >.<