Guild Wars 2

-Guild Issue’s and how it should be fixed-
The first issue I have is the Guild system. Having players being able to join in and out of multiple Guilds is to me a huge blow to the competitiveness and cooperation of the game. In the fallowing Statements I will be hitting on reasons I believe there needs to be a change in how Guilds are handled. I will also give my own opinion on how the Guild system should work.
-Why is Jumping from Guild to Guild an Issue?
Not only does it ruin the the games sense of competitiveness on a small level it ruins the Comradery a Guild should create. With the ability to be in multiple guilds at once, key traits such as guild Loyalty, Cooperation, and Competition between the members become not important and members simply become another player in a Guild.
-Competition between Guilds?
Competition in any game is Necessary if not, Why play it? Guilds grants the oppurtunity to create a very competitive enviroment but only if there is pride in the Guild and comrodery between the members. Guilds or clans in many games is liked or disliked due to the leadership of that Guild. This makes or breaks a guild, having only the strongest guilds survive. When members have no interest in a Guild and stay there just to reap the benefits, leadership and cooperation is not necessary. Doing this is ruining what a guild is supposed to be. I believe this issue should not be overlooked exspecially in a game with the title “Guild Wars”.
-How the problem can be fixed-
To get the full competitiveness out of this game, in accordance with guilds, which in return will increase players willingness to play more in order to surpass their peers. I suggest these 5 things.
1. The Ability to jump from guild to guild is taken away.
2. Influence earned for the guild is displayed so that the guild leader has the ability to monitor activity.
3. Price to create a guild becomes more exspensive.
4. No represent button. Players automatically represent that guild.
5. Guilds have a ranking of some sort.
-The Guild System Now-
Pros.
1. Allows players to reap benifits from guilds without having to actually contribute to it.
2. Easier for guilds to recruit members.
3. You decide!(will update)
Cons.
1. Ruins the games Competitiveness.
2. Leaders not needed.
3. No longer a seperation between good guilds and bad guilds. Since some guilds will have the same members regaurdless of status.
4. No tight gaming community
5. Cooperation withing a guild Unnecessary
6. Some players will find joining a guild useless and find no exstra social entertainment a guild could provide.
If i didnt have hope for this game i wouldnt of done this. This and Other issues have me seeing this game not reaching its full potential. I would love to help make this game better if given the chance. but for now ill share my opinions on the forums. If you would like to share your opinion Good or Bad, Offensive or Supporting Please Comment. =)
Also if someone knows how to get ahold of a GM please let me know

This entire post was originality posted by Zodak I postedthis because his was taken down.

Wrong! I am in an RP guild as my main guild. What if I wanted to also join a PvP guild and my best friend’s guild. The multiple guild system rocks!

There is No guild loyalty or community with the system it has now. It should be about finding ONE guild that’s fits you and everything you want to do.

@robinsiebler I see what you’re saying, but having the guild system like this, previously stated by Nohaxx, nearly takes away the entire point of a guild. Generally, players search for guilds that they can grow and unite with, not that they can once in awhile hop in and kill a boss, then leave (technically). Have this representation system is also annoying to the guild leaders, as well as the loyal players in the guild. Not representing a guild that your “in” is sort of like saying “I don’t really care about this guild”. Now, to what you were saying about being in an RP, a PvP and your best friends guild at the same time. I believe that’s sort of just unrealistic. I enjoy all of those aspects of games, but I also enjoy choosing a guild and staying loyal to it. You can choose to join you’re friends guild and help it grow, or you can maybe try to convince him to drop the guild and join a bigger one of your liking, like an RP or a PvP. But, I really think having the ability to be in multiple guilds and have no loyalty in either of them is sort of disappointing and should be changed. I like all of the changes that ArenaNet has made, but I think changing the guild system is taking it a bit to far. I mean the game is titled Guild Wars, it would be sort of weird doing anything competitively as a guild if thats not really even your main guild.

If there’s no loyalty it’s because your members don’t feel like your guild is worth being loyal to

Fix that, instead of forcing people to being loyal to a guild that stinks.

They wouldn’t know if it “stinks” or not because they never really rep to find out. They claim to be in the guild but will know nothing about it.

Oh. In that case, since they’re not really guild members… why not just kick them…

lorazcyk.8927:

If there’s no loyalty it’s because your members don’t feel like your guild is worth being loyal to

Fix that, instead of forcing people to being loyal to a guild that stinks.

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This.

Its the guilds responsibility to have an extra incentive for guild members like message boards, vent etc. to make people feel more like a group. If you aren’t doing that it might be an area that you need to look into further.

I suggest searching for a core group of people that you can get to know a bit then expand from there. In this core group look specifically for people who want to do what you want to do. Make them officers and have them recruit people with the same interest’s as your core. ? Profit.

I know, right?
You need to find out why players aren’t bothering to represent your guild. Ask them. “Hey, I noticed you haven’t been representing our guild much, is there something I can do to change that?”
Then they should tell you the reason why they’re not representing you. It could be many reasons, you need to find out why to improve your guild and make every member want to represent.

Honestly the opening post makes me feel sick to my stomach, that someone would be so selfish to force players to represent their guild, when members have reasons for representing different guilds at different times. That’s exactly the kind of guild I would not be representing.

I represent my guild, by the way.

I can only rep on guild at a time and I can only talk to one guild at at time. When/if AN enables multiple guild chat, I will be able to more actively participate in all the guilds I want to belong to and help guildmates. The fact is, the chance of all 4 guilds I belong to (3 of which have fewer than 10 members) all needing/wanting my help at the same time is rather unlikely.

I have always liked the idea of find the One right guild for you. A specific guild that has all the things you want it to.. Not 4 different guilds entirely

Maybe let each individual guild set a toggle that says that it’s members can only be in one guild. So there can be open and closed guilds. Say I shut my guild. Then when one of my members tries to join another guild they get a prompt like “You are currently a member of a closed guild. A closed guild does not allow it’s members to join other guilds. If you choose to join this guild you’ll have to resign as a member of <Guild Name Here>. Do you want to resign from your old guild?”

Then a double confirm. “Are you sure you want to resign from your old guild, <Guild Name Here>?”

That should fix it for everyone.

I am in multiple guilds atm and rep both. I like alot of gamers play at multiple times, that being said the first guild I am in has players that are online in the morning for me and not many on in the afternoon, which is when i switch representation and play with the guild and players in the afternoon. It is not much fun to play solo all the time which is what would happen if I was stuck with one guild and is what happened in gw1 and you are then forced to pug.

lorazcyk.8927:

If there’s no loyalty it’s because your members don’t feel like your guild is worth being loyal to

Fix that, instead of forcing people to being loyal to a guild that stinks.

This. Don’t think I have any more to say.

Nohaxx.5139:

-How the problem can be fixed-
To get the full competitiveness out of this game, in accordance with guilds, which in return will increase players willingness to play more in order to surpass their peers. I suggest these 5 things.
1. The Ability to jump from guild to guild is taken away.

Not in agreement with this. Guilds can enforce there own rules. If you need them to represent then tell them that.

Nohaxx.5139:

2. Influence earned for the guild is displayed so that the guild leader has the ability to monitor activity.

I can get on board with this. Some guild leaders like to create demands of there members. They need tools to rule over them.

Nohaxx.5139:

3. Price to create a guild becomes more exspensive.

Not in agreement. Anyone should be able to create a guild. Including the poor.

Nohaxx.5139:

4. No represent button. Players automatically represent that guild.

Players Automatically represent the first guild they join, and can switch between any others. Same way it is now, just when they first join a guild it represents them automatically.

Nohaxx.5139:

5. Guilds have a ranking of some sort.

Agree more control for guild leaders that want it.

Steepledhat Had an amazing suggestion. If Arena net did that i would be satisfied. And that way they dont have to completely change the system. Just add a feature.

Coming from years of playing Guild Wars the alliance system they had in guilds there were by far the greatest idea that i’v seen (just in my opinion of course) you could have your PvP/Speed Clear Guild (while still remaining loyal to them, which was a big thing in Guild Wars) while still having that awesome community that all the multiple guilds in your alliance brought to the table. made everyone happy IMO while still keeping the GM satisfied with loyal members. definitely something i miss greatly from Guild Wars.

SteepledHat.1345:

Maybe let each individual guild set a toggle that says that it’s members can only be in one guild. So there can be open and closed guilds. Say I shut my guild. Then when one of my members tries to join another guild they get a prompt like “You are currently a member of a closed guild. A closed guild does not allow it’s members to join other guilds. If you choose to join this guild you’ll have to resign as a member of <Guild Name Here>. Do you want to resign from your old guild?”

Then a double confirm. “Are you sure you want to resign from your old guild, <Guild Name Here>?”

That should fix it for everyone.

I’ve thought of this idea before and I think it is perfect. Let the players who want to be part of a community be in exclusive guilds, and let the pugs who run around and guild hop for bonuses be in the open guilds.

Guild Suggestions:
-Ability to send Guild Wide Mail
-Ability to send Officer Mail
-A Chat channel for Guild officers
-a Log in or log off indication in guild chat of members
-Message of the day being auto posted in guild chat upon log in.
-A last log in time for guild members in roster
-List of other guilds your members are representing or members of.

Or what Vylin Said and go back to the old system with alliances! Please Area net hear our call! I am obsessed with guilds. and I spend so much time working on mine. And i hate that when I log on I don’t know which members I am going to be able to rely on that day. Even if they’re online

How about an optional “lock-out” feature for a guild. If you join that guild, then you are locked into representing it and locked out of representing any other guild. Casual guilds could allow players to join multiple guilds while hard-core guilds could enforce exclusivity. The lock-out status would have to be chosen when the guild is created, to keep the guild from swapping later and kicking or locking people who didn’t expect it.

Also, as a member of a large guild that had to create a spin-off just due to guild size, an alliance system is badly, badly needed. I am an officer in both the original and spin-off guild just to pass messages back and forth.

The old Alliance system seems to be the fix.Just go back to the way it was in GW1